I'm not saying this will happen, but don't be surprised if this thing hits 10-15k BTC before the ICO ends.
Everyone's speculation about ETH money flowing into Lisk was correct, the only caveat being that the noticeable portions of that money are only now entering the space.
Any smart investor in an ICO that's relatively successful is going to buy up the majority of the chunks at the end of the ICO because that's when you can seal the amount that's being shared. Everyone else has already dropped in their money so they can calc how much money they need to pump in to get x amount. (As most people are already spent.)
Yes the agreement clause can be edited, but at the same time you would be deterring the larger investors, and it is their choice to risk enormous amounts of capital on... something you can't even access yet.
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March 18, 2016, 09:38:20 AM
March 18, 2016, 09:36:27 AM
We asked for decentralization, so this is what we get. Welcome to the wild west. buckle up and enjoy the ride 
March 18, 2016, 09:33:16 AM
https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...
)it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.
cmon... we are in crypto space. There are no identities...
Lol indeed, people will just get other people to create an account and still get whatever they want.
There is almost no way to avoid them from coming in.
The only way to counter is for more people to jump in, and for people to invest even more lol.
March 18, 2016, 09:30:38 AM
https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...
)it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.
cmon... we are in crypto space. There are no identities...
March 18, 2016, 09:28:52 AM
https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...
)it should be limited to 50 BTC per natural person/ legal entity, with verified identity.
March 18, 2016, 09:23:18 AM
https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
I have a modification proposal:
Every amount bigger than 100 BTC will not receive any coins, but the amount will still be considered as a funding. LOL ;-)
Where exactly stands, that this wouldn't be legit? (Although of course any lawyer would win against it...
)to make sure: I am just kidding...
March 18, 2016, 09:20:37 AM
...and you guys are not considering that the 1000-BTC-whale and 300-BTC-whale could be the same guy...
almost for sure it's the same guy.
do you mean the same chinese exchange?
that would be the best case scenario
I don't know how it works in America, but here each investor has an social security number that is a proof that there won't be multiple buys by the same person. I wonder how it would be solved in this crypto enviroment...
We can't do anything now, rules were set. Let it be a warning for futures developments...by the do you know any cases (ethereum or maidsafe or ...) of a hostile action using this strategy?
the thing is that there has never been a "perfect" cryptocurrency launch, as far as i can tell. but the launch not being perfect does not mean that the developers are not honest, or that the coin will not succeed.
actually, the true fact is that there are too many trolls in this btctalk forum, and they will always complain, anyway.
let's just stick to the rules, and all else will find its balance, eventually.
March 18, 2016, 09:19:21 AM
https://ico.lisk.io/presale.pdf
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
"11. Modifications to the Agreement."
- this is the sharp harpoon clause of the Agreement. Whales take note.
March 18, 2016, 09:18:15 AM
Can we see the address where all this ICO BTC is located ??
they post videos with the total every once in a while
Videos of what? I would like to see the address where the funds are located...
Just follow your transaction to the adress where the bitcoins are stored. Not so hard. I posted the adress a while back (around page 150). It was an adress with 1K BTC, I assume there are more adresses like that.
March 18, 2016, 09:15:45 AM
...and you guys are not considering that the 1000-BTC-whale and 300-BTC-whale could be the same guy...
almost for sure it's the same guy.
do you mean the same chinese exchange?
that would be the best case scenario
I don't know how it works in America, but here each investor has an social security number that is a proof that there won't be multiple buys by the same person. I wonder how it would be solved in this crypto enviroment...
We can't do anything now, rules were set. Let it be a warning for futures developments...by the do you know any cases (ethereum or maidsafe or ...) of a hostile action using this strategy?
a big amout is not necessarily a hostile thing. for example if I had that much money and decided to invest here, I would consider it still as a long term investment without manipulating anything. The only thing I am afraid of, is overfunding. That the product can just not reach the expectations set and you set all on those 2 people doing the right decisions...
It is still ok now, but its getting harder and harder... (and no, money does not solve all problems...)
And, in my original post, i didn't mean it negatively lol. But, that's a chance...or not
March 18, 2016, 09:13:57 AM
Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
Btw I think you made an error, as first and great promoter and supporter of lisk it wasn't a good move change your path spreading "fud", alarming people about one guy that bought 1000+ btc and considering to end the ico @ 6000k btc, this move can only generate panic, if it's not said by a newbie account with one post. You understand what I mean. It was something you should have done only privately with devs.
The ico rules can't be changed, and in fact dev didn't changed it even after your concern.
If there's some whale we can't say what's going to do, we know how they act yes, but if it let us notice its buy, it was because the whale want us to panic.
March 18, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
Can we see the address where all this ICO BTC is located ??
they post videos with the total every once in a while
Videos of what? I would like to see the address where the funds are located...
March 18, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
so how much is each lisk worth guys? hallo
The Current Satoshi Price For One Lisk
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing
How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing
How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing
Lisk ICO Daily Donations
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j1sOFyPa3ZPr6QuG7pzuJtw9DHy4BNuoWw5Iu9N9MiQ/edit?usp=sharing
March 18, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
...and you guys are not considering that the 1000-BTC-whale and 300-BTC-whale could be the same guy...
almost for sure it's the same guy.
do you mean the same chinese exchange?
that would be the best case scenario
I don't know how it works in America, but here each investor has an social security number that is a proof that there won't be multiple buys by the same person. I wonder how it would be solved in this crypto enviroment...
We can't do anything now, rules were set. Let it be a warning for futures developments...by the do you know any cases (ethereum or maidsafe or ...) of a hostile action using this strategy?
a big amout is not necessarily a hostile thing. for example if I had that much money and decided to invest here, I would consider it still as a long term investment without manipulating anything. The only thing I am afraid of, is overfunding. That the product can just not reach the expectations set and you set all on those 2 people doing the right decisions...
It is still ok now, but its getting harder and harder... (and no, money does not solve all problems...)
March 18, 2016, 09:06:03 AM
...and you guys are not considering that the 1000-BTC-whale and 300-BTC-whale could be the same guy...
almost for sure it's the same guy.
do you mean the same chinese exchange?
that would be the best case scenario
I don't know how it works in America, but here each investor has an social security number that is a proof that there won't be multiple buys by the same person. I wonder how it would be solved in this crypto enviroment...
We can't do anything now, rules were set. Let it be a warning for futures developments...by the do you know any cases (ethereum or maidsafe or ...) of a hostile action using this strategy?
March 18, 2016, 09:05:29 AM
Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
Btw I think you made an error, as first and great promoter and supporter of lisk it wasn't a good move change your path spreading "fud", alarming people about one guy that bought 1000+ btc and considering to end the ico @ 6000k btc, this move can only generate panic, if it's not said by a newbie account with one post. You understand what I mean. It was something you should have done only privately with devs.
The ico rules can't be changed, and in fact dev didn't changed it even after your concern.
If there's some whale we can't say what's going to do, we know how they act yes, but if it let us notice its buy, it was because the whale want us to panic.
yes.
March 18, 2016, 09:01:51 AM
Max says we continue the ICO for 64 hours as planned.
Btw I think you made an error, as first and great promoter and supporter of lisk it wasn't a good move change your path spreading "fud", alarming people about one guy that bought 1000+ btc and considering to end the ico @ 6000k btc, this move can only generate panic, if it's not said by a newbie account with one post. You understand what I mean. It was something you should have done only privately with devs.
The ico rules can't be changed, and in fact dev didn't changed it even after your concern.
If there's some whale we can't say what's going to do, we know how they act yes, but if it let us notice its buy, it was because the whale want us to panic.
perfect
March 18, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
Can we see the address where all this ICO BTC is located ??
March 18, 2016, 08:57:09 AM
so how much is each lisk worth guys? hallo
about 8500 sat10053 to be exact
March 18, 2016, 08:56:07 AM
so how much is each lisk worth guys? hallo
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