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I thought people could not downvote someone just remove there vote.

yes, correct.

Quote from: bitbitch on March 18, 2016, 10:48:32 AM

(what wouldnt matter cause he got 12%)

Yes, but theoretically could the other 88% vote for 101 other delegates

But you can only vote one coin ones right ? that means 1% of the coin will always be a delegate cause there cant be another 100 accounts with 1% coins, cause there is only 100% coin amount.

Thats what i mean, 1% of the coin is a certain delegate. Or am i completely off.

Been around in crypto for a while but never in a Dpos coin.

Just take a look here and you will understand it. https://cryptichain.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

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Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:33:48 AM

Quote from: bitbitch on March 18, 2016, 10:12:51 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:11:40 AM

Lisk is the fourth most funded project in the history and there's still 62 hours till the end of ICO.

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Lisk: 7400 BTC + 65M XCR
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

what is the XCR as a % of the total?

65%, there is 100M XCR total

sorry, i mean the ratio between XCR and BTC ventured to Lisk thus far as %. what % of the Lisk fund is XCR?

Lisk are changed with a fixed ratio of 1300 satoshi each so 65 million will be around 845 btc atm.

Total amount of XCR was 100 million so there might be more comming in.

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Quote from: cc001 on March 18, 2016, 10:43:39 AM

I thought people could not downvote someone just remove there vote.

yes, correct.

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:33:48 AM

(what wouldnt matter cause he got 12%)

Yes, but theoretically could the other 88% vote for 101 other delegates

But you can only vote one coin ones right ? that means 1% of the coin will always be a delegate cause there cant be another 100 accounts with 1% coins, cause there is only 100% coin amount.

Thats what i mean, 1% of the coin is a certain delegate. Or am i completely off.

Been around in crypto for a while but never in a Dpos coin.

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Quote from: bitbitch on March 18, 2016, 10:12:51 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:11:40 AM

Lisk is the fourth most funded project in the history and there's still 62 hours till the end of ICO.

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Lisk: 7400 BTC + 65M XCR
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

what is the XCR as a % of the total?

65%, there is 100M XCR total

sorry, i mean the ratio between XCR and BTC ventured to Lisk thus far as %. what % of the Lisk fund is XCR?

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Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:46:52 AM

@lordoliver and Mrboot

Let's just watch top Lisk accounts after the launch. If they move millions of Lisk to exchanges then we're fucked

If they don't - I was right.

Some will probably, some not... there is no black or white ;-)

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Let's just watch top Lisk accounts after the launch. If they move millions of Lisk to exchanges then we're fucked

If they don't - I was right.

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I thought people could not downvote someone just remove there vote.

yes, correct.

Quote from: Splatters on March 18, 2016, 10:38:59 AM

(what wouldnt matter cause he got 12%)

Yes, but theoretically could the other 88% vote for 101 other delegates

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Quote from: Mrboot on March 18, 2016, 10:34:54 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:31:03 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on March 18, 2016, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:18:58 AM

I can understand small fish like myself, but you're all wrong. You're basically useless for the project. All you can do and all you're aiming to do is dump. No matter at x5 or x50. You cannot do anything except dumping and getting some profit. You won't be publishing articles in major media, you won't be developing application for Lisk, you don't have any money to keep the price from going down and even if you would, your balls are too soft to invest more when everybody's dumping. All you want is get as much Lisk as possible with your 0.1-1.5 BTC investments and dump with profit. So stop bitching already, you're looking like shit for those who understand what you really worth.

if a small fish dumps 10 BTC it won't hurt, but if someone with 1000 BTC dumps, the price will go 50%. And do you think people with 1000 BTC will keep all until jesus will take them to heaven?

You're assuming that whales and small fish are equally stupid. That's not true. Those investors with hundreds and thousands of BTC got balls of steel, they can wait months and years before they sell something. They actually don't need to sell anything because they're fucking rich and already have everything they want. Take a look at top Crypti accounts. They only got bigger withing years. They were buying from week hands all these months. The same will happen with top Lisk accounts. They'll become even bigger when dummies sell them their coins during dumps.

I also dont agree on this, a whale can be happy with a small profit compared to a smalle fish.

I wont be happy with a x2 for example , but if i would invested 1000 btc then a x2 is actually a lot more money.
Its hard to say where a whale will be happy with so speculation have no use.

It can be x2 and he buy a new lambo. Or at can be x10 cause he needs a house with garage for hes lambo.

You will never know probably

they can't make a 2x with 1000 btc if before they don't bring the price very high.
It's not just launch the coin and they will dump, nope, if a whale want profit, needs to make the price rise, so people will set support tu buy, and then when there's enough support the whale will dump. If it dumps before it's to buy more lower. The coin seems solid so I don't see any reason to dump early just because the whale lost faith in lisk.

man your avatar gives me goosebumps Wink

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Quote from: LiskHQ on March 18, 2016, 10:38:36 AM

Quote from: cc001 on March 18, 2016, 10:34:38 AM

Quote from: Mrboot on March 18, 2016, 10:34:54 AM

Only i hope there will be a Dapp that makes people run a deleagte togheter cause with one person buying about 15% of the ico he can easly set up 15 delegates, thats what worries me that one gonna try to control many delegates

cause with 15 delegates he will get like 1,5 million coins in year 1. making it able to make more delegates for year 2.

running a delegate has nothing to do with the size of its account. And he doesn't get more income than an account with less Lisk.

True and not true, A Delegate is someone to be voted on with 1 lisk be 1 vote.

Meaning that if you own 1 million lisk you always will have a Delegate if you vote them all for yourself.
Cause 1 million means 1% of the total coin cap and there will be 101 delegate correct me if im wrong.

Yes, but 99% could vote against you...

I thought people could not downvote someone just remove there vote. (what wouldnt matter cause he got 12%)

Let's say you have 1M LISK. And there is a total of 100M LISK.

If only you vote for your delegate you have an approval of 1%. But the 101st delegate could have collected 25% of the votes by multiple other people (everyone can vote for 101 different delegates).

I understand, but if you have 1% of the total coin amount wont you always have a delegate ? if you vote for yourself ?

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Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:31:03 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on March 18, 2016, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:18:58 AM

I can understand small fish like myself, but you're all wrong. You're basically useless for the project. All you can do and all you're aiming to do is dump. No matter at x5 or x50. You cannot do anything except dumping and getting some profit. You won't be publishing articles in major media, you won't be developing application for Lisk, you don't have any money to keep the price from going down and even if you would, your balls are too soft to invest more when everybody's dumping. All you want is get as much Lisk as possible with your 0.1-1.5 BTC investments and dump with profit. So stop bitching already, you're looking like shit for those who understand what you really worth.

if a small fish dumps 10 BTC it won't hurt, but if someone with 1000 BTC dumps, the price will go 50%. And do you think people with 1000 BTC will keep all until jesus will take them to heaven?

You're assuming that whales and small fish are equally stupid. That's not true. Those investors with hundreds and thousands of BTC got balls of steel, they can wait months and years before they sell something. They actually don't need to sell anything because they're fucking rich and already have everything they want. Take a look at top Crypti accounts. They only got bigger withing years. They were buying from week hands all these months. The same will happen with top Lisk accounts. They'll become even bigger when dummies sell them their coins during dumps.

I also dont agree on this, a whale can be happy with a small profit compared to a smalle fish.

I wont be happy with a x2 for example , but if i would invested 1000 btc then a x2 is actually a lot more money.
Its hard to say where a whale will be happy with so speculation have no use.

It can be x2 and he buy a new lambo. Or at can be x10 cause he needs a house with garage for hes lambo.

You will never know probably

they can't make a 2x with 1000 btc if before they don't bring the price very high.
It's not just launch the coin and they will dump, nope, if a whale want profit, needs to make the price rise, so people will set support tu buy, and then when there's enough support the whale will dump. If it dumps before it's to buy more lower. The coin seems solid so I don't see any reason to dump early just because the whale lost faith in lisk.

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Quote from: cc001 on March 18, 2016, 10:34:38 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:31:03 AM

Only i hope there will be a Dapp that makes people run a deleagte togheter cause with one person buying about 15% of the ico he can easly set up 15 delegates, thats what worries me that one gonna try to control many delegates

cause with 15 delegates he will get like 1,5 million coins in year 1. making it able to make more delegates for year 2.

running a delegate has nothing to do with the size of its account. And he doesn't get more income than an account with less Lisk.

True and not true, A Delegate is someone to be voted on with 1 lisk be 1 vote.

Meaning that if you own 1 million lisk you always will have a Delegate if you vote them all for yourself.
Cause 1 million means 1% of the total coin cap and there will be 101 delegate correct me if im wrong.

Yes, but 99% could vote against you...

I thought people could not downvote someone just remove there vote. (what wouldnt matter cause he got 12%)

Let's say you have 1M LISK. And there is a total of 100M LISK.

If only you vote for your delegate you have an approval of 1%. But the 101st delegate could have collected 25% of the votes by multiple other people (everyone can vote for 101 different delegates).

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Quote from: lordoliver on March 18, 2016, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:18:58 AM

I can understand small fish like myself, but you're all wrong. You're basically useless for the project. All you can do and all you're aiming to do is dump. No matter at x5 or x50. You cannot do anything except dumping and getting some profit. You won't be publishing articles in major media, you won't be developing application for Lisk, you don't have any money to keep the price from going down and even if you would, your balls are too soft to invest more when everybody's dumping. All you want is get as much Lisk as possible with your 0.1-1.5 BTC investments and dump with profit. So stop bitching already, you're looking like shit for those who understand what you really worth.

if a small fish dumps 10 BTC it won't hurt, but if someone with 1000 BTC dumps, the price will go 50%. And do you think people with 1000 BTC will keep all until jesus will take them to heaven?

You're assuming that whales and small fish are equally stupid. That's not true. Those investors with hundreds and thousands of BTC got balls of steel, they can wait months and years before they sell something. They actually don't need to sell anything because they're fucking rich and already have everything they want. Take a look at top Crypti accounts. They only got bigger withing years. They were buying from week hands all these months. The same will happen with top Lisk accounts. They'll become even bigger when dummies sell them their coins during dumps.

I guess the stupid ones are the ones that are very week and the ones that keep forever as well.

I am one of the later ones with the "balls of steal" and still didn't make any plus the last 3 years...
Those guys with money want to make more money. They WON'T hold... they sell at the right time.
And it will drop AFTER - because of them. Thats how they make money...

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Quote from: cc001 on March 18, 2016, 10:34:38 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:31:03 AM

Only i hope there will be a Dapp that makes people run a deleagte togheter cause with one person buying about 15% of the ico he can easly set up 15 delegates, thats what worries me that one gonna try to control many delegates

cause with 15 delegates he will get like 1,5 million coins in year 1. making it able to make more delegates for year 2.

running a delegate has nothing to do with the size of its account. And he doesn't get more income than an account with less Lisk.

True and not true, A Delegate is someone to be voted on with 1 lisk be 1 vote.

Meaning that if you own 1 million lisk you always will have a Delegate if you vote them all for yourself.
Cause 1 million means 1% of the total coin cap and there will be 101 delegate correct me if im wrong.

Yes, but 99% could vote against you...

I thought people could not downvote someone just remove there vote. (what wouldnt matter cause he got 12%)

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Quote from: lordoliver on March 18, 2016, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on March 18, 2016, 10:18:58 AM

I can understand small fish like myself, but you're all wrong. You're basically useless for the project. All you can do and all you're aiming to do is dump. No matter at x5 or x50. You cannot do anything except dumping and getting some profit. You won't be publishing articles in major media, you won't be developing application for Lisk, you don't have any money to keep the price from going down and even if you would, your balls are too soft to invest more when everybody's dumping. All you want is get as much Lisk as possible with your 0.1-1.5 BTC investments and dump with profit. So stop bitching already, you're looking like shit for those who understand what you really worth.

if a small fish dumps 10 BTC it won't hurt, but if someone with 1000 BTC dumps, the price will go 50%. And do you think people with 1000 BTC will keep all until jesus will take them to heaven?

You're assuming that whales and small fish are equally stupid. That's not true. Those investors with hundreds and thousands of BTC got balls of steel, they can wait months and years before they sell something. They actually don't need to sell anything because they're fucking rich and already have everything they want. Take a look at top Crypti accounts. They only got bigger withing years. They were buying from week hands all these months. The same will happen with top Lisk accounts. They'll become even bigger when dummies sell them their coins during dumps.

I also dont agree on this, a whale can be happy with a small profit compared to a smalle fish.

I wont be happy with a x2 for example , but if i would invested 1000 btc then a x2 is actually a lot more money.
Its hard to say where a whale will be happy with so speculation have no use.

It can be x2 and he buy a new lambo. Or at can be x10 cause he needs a house with garage for hes lambo.

You will never know probably

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