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Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 2242. (Read 3074169 times)

legendary
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My team and I have been working on an exchange and we're definitely considering adding LISK into the exchange.

Lisk vs Eth:

https://twitter.com/neucrypto/status/699252053101539328

Vote Now!
hero member
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Bleutrade is also good option.

I don't know...


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hero member
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Decentralized Application Platform
Bleutrade is also good option.

Decred first listed on that exchange

Okay, I will put it onto our list and will take a look later. Smiley


Thank you.




I often get the message that the Crypti network is not working, this is wrong. The network is live and healthy. Only the official Crypti blockchain explorer (cryptichain.me) and official Crypti web login (wallet.crypti.me) are not working!

Poloniex and Bter withdrawals are working as well!



Please use our mirrors which Olivier put online. Smiley

Hello Crypti,

I have just deployed an SSL enabled wallet at:

https://cryptiwallet.lisk.io/

This wallet is powered by a load-balanced cluster of 5 dedicated nodes, and is hosted on the high quality cloud hosting provider UpCloud.

As reminder, there is also a dedicated block explorer: https://cryptichain.lisk.io/ (also powered by this same cluster).

These two sites will operate throughout the course of the Lisk ICO.

Kind regards, Olivier.
legendary
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Bleutrade is also good option.

Decred first listed on that exchange
hero member
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As I understand it, the fact that a) Lisk uses Javascript for DAPP development and b) Lisk DAPPS will each run on their own sidechain, are 2 great advantages of Lisk over Ethereum.  Are there other advantages?  And to be fair and balanced, what about disadvantages of Lisk vs. Ethereum?

Also, are DAPP sidechains secured by the Lisk network, or do the sidechains need to have their own block signers?

Thanks in advance.  Very exciting project!

Advantages:

- Lisk offers a whole package for dapps, i.e. frontend and backend. That means you also have a decentralized hosted frontend of the dapp instead of accessing it through a centralized server which is often the case at Ethereum. (see: Gnosis & Augur)

- Not so sure about Ethereum here, but Lisk runs on all devices. On a 9$ C.H.I.P. or a Raspberry Pi. And this is enough to secure Lisk AND several sidechains! I also had it running on a 64MB VPS once.

- Our client, I hope you saw it. In comparison to Ethereum we have a GUI developed and maintained by the core team. It will always have the latest features and is really simple to use.

- Inbuilt Dapp Store which lists all available dapps on the network and will be enhanced greatly in the future.


Differences:

- While Ethereum is a smart contract platform, Lisk is a dapp platform. That means at Ethereum you can only develop single smart contracts which costs real ETH for every step, and you need to combine several contracts to form one dapp.

- You can only develop the dapp backend on Ethereum, on Lisk you can develop the whole package (see above) of frontend and backend.


Disadvantages:

- At Lisk you can't develop smart contracts which are always being performed by all miners on the network.

- Headstart of Ethereum and we don't have a Vitalik. Smiley


One other question.  Have you secured any exchanges for Lisk to trade on after launch?  Thanks.

We are public since two weeks and have generated quite a buzz already. I'm sure we will be listed on several ones soon after the launch. We will actively pursue this 1-2 weeks into the ICO. Smiley

To name a few we definitely will contact:

- Poloniex
- Bittrex
- BTC38
sr. member
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I like the fact that Lisk focusses on usability (javascript dapps) wich can trigger mass addoption.

But since bitcoin is having serious scaling problems already, and ethereum will too, how is Lisk going to address this?

Good question, this topic interests me too.

This is one of the major advantages of Lisk over the other networks. Running the dapps on sidechains instead of the main chain makes it much more scalable. As many servers to run dapps as are needed can be added to the network.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are trying to address scalability with what amount to patches on top of the core technology, like Lightening Network for Bitcoin and State Channels for Ethereum.

With Lisk, scalability is built into the core design from the ground up.
hero member
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One other question.  Have you secured any exchanges for Lisk to trade on after launch?  Thanks.

I imagine Bittrex will be first to pick it up, followed by Polo.
newbie
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One other question.  Have you secured any exchanges for Lisk to trade on after launch?  Thanks.
newbie
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As I understand it, the fact that a) Lisk uses Javascript for DAPP development and b) Lisk DAPPS will each run on their own sidechain, are 2 great advantages of Lisk over Ethereum.  Are there other advantages?  And to be fair and balanced, what about disadvantages of Lisk vs. Ethereum?

Also, are DAPP sidechains secured by the Lisk network, or do the sidechains need to have their own block signers?

Thanks in advance.  Very exciting project!
hero member
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Decentralized Application Platform
LiskHQ,
is web wallet fully functional?
Or its just for testnet?

It's just a testnet. The production blockchain will be launched after the ICO.
hero member
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hello,
LISK sounds interesting to me. I will follow this thread.
Good luck!
legendary
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LiskHQ,
is web wallet fully functional?
Or its just for testnet?
hero member
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I loved the ideas behind crypti, I really hope lisk can make them a reality. This will be the only other project besides ETH that I am heavily invested in, best of luck to everybody!
hero member
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I like the fact that Lisk focusses on usability (javascript dapps) which can trigger mass addoption.

But since bitcoin is having serious scaling problems already, and ethereum will too, how is Lisk going to address this?


Hello LitcoinCollector,

Thank you for asking this question. It's a very important one. After all, scaling is a huge issue for all blockchain related applications and the more functionalities a crypto-currency/platform/dapp has, the bigger the problem becomes.

If we are talking about decentralized applications and custom blockchains, then Lisk scales very well in comparison to Ethereum. Every decentralized application at Lisk is running on a new sidechain (i.e. a custom blockchain). That means a sidechain which is hundreds of MB big, is only a few kilo bytes on the Lisk blockchain.

I imagine that we will see an "internet of blockchains" at Lisk, which will emerge into a whole autonomous ecosystem. Thousands of decentralized applications and custom blockchains can work in parallel on the Lisk network, because they are all independent from each other. On the Lisk blockchain these thousands of dapps and custom blockchains are only a few MB big, but all data together on the sidechains can go into the terabytes. Adding some sort of marketplace for securing/forging sidechains will create a whole new earning potential and will make Lisk fly more than ever (in my opinion).

You see, scaling of Lisk sidechains is no problem at all. This results from the Lisk architecture, using sidechains instead of one big blockchain and miners.

To give a number or a specific statement regarding transaction scaling on the Lisk blockchain will need more testing. We are enhancing the current testbed greatly. Having a good test coverage is critical for a successful crypto-currency and platform. We mentioned these kind of "optimisations" and "enhancements" in our roadmap. Once we have specific numbers we will obvioiusly share them with the community. Smiley


Just read the whitepaper. Am a little disappointed, to be honest. It's basically a copy of the Crypti paper, and it's very light on details. If you're going to have an ICO, I want something more in-depth and technical than that. I recognize that I can read your code, as it's on Github, but that's not usually my preferred method for coming to an understanding of a complex system. My time is short these days, and digesting code tends to take much longer than understanding a higher-level description.

I bought into the Ethereum presale because every detail had been clearly exposed in its white and yellow papers. With Lisk, there are too many undisclosed details at present for me to feel very comfortable about its future right now. Maybe if I read the code and compare it to Crypti's... but that's a time-consuming proposition.

This is a great post which could benefit Lisk moving forward. Here we have common concerns about the technical details of Lisk and the technology.

Could you go into more detail on what kind of technical and in-depth details Lisk is lacking? (This is a genuine question, not sarcastic nor criticizing you or defending Lisk.)

As part of the community, I believe the approach from ryepdx should be taken seriously, and any other future technical questions should be addressed and added to the documentation.

I strongly agree. It would be great if you can contact us ryepdx so we may can work on this together. I will write you a PM as well.


I have updated my profile, how much reward is for each participant? 200,000 is total amount or every participant will get this amount to wear signature?

200,000 LISK will be distributed between all participants.


hope you will not "moderate" my post.

This thread isn't moderated. We can't delete your posts. Smiley
legendary
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i am simply waiting price drop far less than ICO price.

hope you will not "moderate" my post.
hero member
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Just read the whitepaper. Am a little disappointed, to be honest. It's basically a copy of the Crypti paper, and it's very light on details. If you're going to have an ICO, I want something more in-depth and technical than that. I recognize that I can read your code, as it's on Github, but that's not usually my preferred method for coming to an understanding of a complex system. My time is short these days, and digesting code tends to take much longer than understanding a higher-level description.

I bought into the Ethereum presale because every detail had been clearly exposed in its white and yellow papers. With Lisk, there are too many undisclosed details at present for me to feel very comfortable about its future right now. Maybe if I read the code and compare it to Crypti's... but that's a time-consuming proposition.

This is a great post which could benefit Lisk moving forward. Here we have common concerns about the technical details of Lisk and the technology.

Could you go into more detail on what kind of technical and in-depth details Lisk is lacking? (This is a genuine question, not sarcastic nor criticizing you or defending Lisk.)

As part of the community, I believe the approach from ryepdx should be taken seriously, and any other future technical questions should be addressed and added to the documentation.
legendary
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I have updated my profile, how much reward is for each participant? 200,000 is total amount or every participant will get this amount to wear signature?
hero member
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i have an other question: what about escrow for ICO?

btw: i changed my sig.


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Escrow Partner

All collected BTC and XCR will be held in a safe wallet by our escrow partner. The Lisk team won’t have access to any funds at all, until the Lisk mainnet is launched successfully. More information about our escrow partner will be released soon. Please keep in mind that this is a very sensitive point and takes some time to prepare.

Lisk ICO Terms - Part I
Lisk ICO Terms - Part II

legendary
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i have an other question: what about escrow for ICO?

btw: i changed my sig.
legendary
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Signature changed  Wink
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