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Furthermore, Max & Oliver Supported Lisk directly out-of pocket for an entire year before gaining access to the funds.

I would eat dog shit for a year to have access to 12k Bitcoin, just saying.
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Think or swim.
The Future is Bright for Lisk
Last night, one of our advisors officially resigned from his position on the Board of Advisors for the Lisk Foundation. We (Max and Oliver) would like to begin this post by thanking our former advisor, Charles Hoskinson, for the sage advice and counsel he provided us over these past few months.
We would like to also use this opportunity to update the community on the positive relationship between Lisk and its Board of Advisors, an important circle of influencers and leaders who will continue to provide us with wisdom and experience.

Our views on advisors
We believe there are two types of advisors: active and passive. Active advisors constantly contact the management board and advise as they see fit. Passive advisors wait until the management board asks for advice, for the time being they therefore stay silent. We are lucky to have advisors who have taken an active role in providing us with counsel, even during the times when we made a conscious decision to go in a different direction.
The whole team at Lisk has been working hard every day because we sincerely believe in the long-term success of our project. Sometimes, we decided to opt against what we felt was a short-term benefit because, after consideration, we felt that the resources could be better spent later on. Our reasoning is that one could not build a house without a strong foundation to support it, and until ours was in place we did not feel it would be right to make certain investments.
The good news is that by the end of last year, and with the help of our legal team, with the great effort of our active Lisk team, and with the support of our community, we were able to establish the Lisk Foundation in Switzerland. This year, the project has been vastly accelerated, and we have the funding and the core team to produce extraordinary work.
We are here to stay … for a long time
It’s worth repeating: Lisk is here to stay, and for a very long time. We have made a commitment to a mass community to build an extremely high quality product knowing that this can’t happen overnight. As a result, we treat our funds with the greatest care while simultaneously ensuring that we maintain an optimal pace for development. Since the formation of the Foundation, we’ve been able to take advantage of our station to position Lisk for growth.
Some community members have complained about our decision to attempt to establish a gGmbH, stating that this process wasted three months of our time. Though we understand their thinking, in retrospect this was the best choice we had at the time. We were in constant contact with German lawyers to set it up and had we completed the process, we would have established a precedent in Germany which anyone could replicate — an important step for the ecosystem. Moreover, at that time last year, we were not in contact with the attorneys we eventually hired in Switzerland and, moreover, without permitted access to the ICO funds, we didn’t have the monetary resources to go in that direction either. However, once it increasingly became clear that the country Germany isn’t progressive enough, we made the big decision to set the Foundation in Switzerland — a very good decision at the end.
Here is a brief timeline of the major events since our ICO concluded:
21.03.2016: The Lisk ICO ended.
24.05.2016: The Lisk network launches.
xx.06.2016: gGmbH materials ready, started talking with the government (Germany).
01.08.2016: Oliver and Max move to Berlin.
xx.09.2016: gGmbH materials finished, frustration with the government (Germany).
01.10.2016: Switched to a Swiss legal firm.
16.11.2016: Commercial register entry of the Lisk Foundation.
30.11.2016: The Lisk network stabilizes.
19.12.2016: Lisk Foundation fully established and ready to go.
During the three “lost months”, we constantly improved the Lisk core and user interface, introduced Lisk Nano, maintained the Lisk Explorer and various resources, established the lightcurve GmbH, and searched for office space in Berlin.
With Oliver’s fantastic work and extraordinary familiarity with the code base, we successfully stabilized the code towards the end of 2016. If we had too many new developers on board at the time, Lisk development would probably have progressed more slowly on an individual basis during that time because they would have to study the code base first, before they can jump deep into coding.
For new developers of an existing code base, it’s easier to study a stable and modular platform, rather than needing to make heavy changes everywhere to make it stable subsequently.
In the future, people will know of the Lisk that was born in December
From everything we have seen, one can conclude that December was the true beginning for Lisk. From this point, our progress accelerated dramatically.
Looking back, we released Lisk v0.5.0 on the 30th November, Lisk Nano v0.1.2 on the 2nd December, Lisk v0.5.1 on the 8th December and Lisk Explorer 1.0.0 on the 12th December.
The lightcurve GmbH, which was started by Oliver and Max to lead the development of Lisk, was also actively hiring simultaneously. Around that time, we hired two freelance developers, one starting in December and another in January. Since then, two more developers have begun working on Lisk as well. Yet one more will be coming “online” in April, with another two are currently in late negotiations to join in. If you do the math, we’ll have seven developers working full-time next month, with a high likelihood of at least nine developers by May.
While our development team is actively growing, we also starting to look for other important positions to fill. For example, we’re evaluating hiring additional contributors for important verticals like legal, marketing, community, documentation, administration and support.
Ramping up communications
Some have also made hay by criticizing our communications to date — and they were right to say so. We were so busy making things happen that we struggled in January to report our progress, but we’ve swiftly learned from our mistakes and have ramped it up for February and for the future. In a short span of time, we have distributed a substantial financial report, published seven blog posts, issued a press release, conducted a 1+ hour long community meeting through a live stream, and maintain a consistent presence on the Lisk.Chat and r/Lisk.
Soon, we will introduce further changes and improvements on the methods with which we communicate and improve how we organize our community. Expect major changes to our forum, added focus on r/Lisk, and reports you’ll find far less boring.
Moving forward
We’ve always maintained a strategy with our employees, freelancers and contributors to ensure they’re not misused or misappropriated for hype. We will treat our advisory board the same way.
We’re currently in the middle of significant change — and it’s been a change for good. Our legal structure is complete and running smoothly, our team is coming together, a positive company culture is being formed, we are working together with important contractors, we’re constantly streamlining our internal and external communications, and our development moves faster than ever before while our products increasingly become better and better.
All the best,
Max Kordek and Oliver Beddows, Lisk Foundation



To whoever is fudding Lightcurve....  If you bothered to watch, red, or attend the last meeting, you would know that Lightcurve has the Law-Firm's blessing, and that's is how it's done in Switzerland. Furthermore, Max & Oliver Supported Lisk directly out-of pocket for an entire year before gaining access to the funds. You waste your time and money.... But we all know you actually did no such thing. -delegate Phoenix
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Hi Guys!

After consulting with my lawyers Today I have formally launched a complained with Swiss authorities against Max and Oliver. Lisk is paying huge sums of money to light curve whose beneficial owners are max and Oliver. This is direct violation of Gmbh rules and regulations. I will keep the community posted about the update on the case.


you have, really?

it does seem like an odd arrangement to control a foundation and funnel its money to your own for profit private entity. i think they conveniently neglected to mention it at the time of the ICO. wide open to abuse.


It's probably the legal way for them to transfer ICO money, and there is most likely nothing you can do about it.

but that wasn't what the founders asked the investors to agree to at the ICO. Max and Oliver clearly stated that their reward was to be 4 million lisk each, minimal salaries, and a strictly non profit structure. the addition of the for profit Lightcurve entity which Max and Oliver own privately on a commercial basis is a breach of the agreement.
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Lisk very disappointing their investors, it is very clear max leave Lisk today ..
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Simple stupid FUD by a simple stupid Noob.

^^^ignored
Many people are more ignorant, to buy a lot Lisk at this time, not one of many people who were disappointed at Lisk, .because buy Lisk so much ...
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Lisk very disappointing their investors, it is very clear max leave Lisk today ..
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Simple stupid FUD by a simple stupid Noob.

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Looks they have a new developer. So far I have not seen Vit Stanislav yet?

Yep, he is new one. He will develop Lisk-Nano.  
Whether it would be better to make Lisk and attract investors with what they are doing during this time ??

Although there has been no progress in the current Lisk this ...

They will continue Lisk development. New version is ready to test.https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk/milestones .They already accept effect of their delay. Price is proof. Attraction is cheap price/ upcoming events / developments of Lisk / finally SDK. Good for long term.
See the results on the current List price is disappointing, continues and continues to decline little by little, there is no change in the development of this ..


Of course the development has changed.
But for that you have to look in GitHub and not every 3 minutes in Polo.

The result on Polo will be visible in months.


Despite the construction of many changes, but still, the price on the stock currently showing 8k sit still, no movement of your joke ..


And if you look again in 3 minutes, the price will be the same. Also in 6 minutes  Cheesy
Please go on holiday and come back in 3 or 6 or 9 months.
Everything needs it's time. More is not to say.

Many coin coin more valuable than Lisk, Lisk very disappointing their investors, it is very clear max leave Lisk today ..
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Looks they have a new developer. So far I have not seen Vit Stanislav yet?

Yep, he is new one. He will develop Lisk-Nano.  
Whether it would be better to make Lisk and attract investors with what they are doing during this time ??

Although there has been no progress in the current Lisk this ...

They will continue Lisk development. New version is ready to test.https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk/milestones .They already accept effect of their delay. Price is proof. Attraction is cheap price/ upcoming events / developments of Lisk / finally SDK. Good for long term.
See the results on the current List price is disappointing, continues and continues to decline little by little, there is no change in the development of this ..


Of course the development has changed.
But for that you have to look in GitHub and not every 3 minutes in Polo.

The result on Polo will be visible in months.


Despite the construction of many changes, but still, the price on the stock currently showing 8k sit still, no movement of your joke ..


And if you look again in 3 minutes, the price will be the same. Also in 6 minutes  Cheesy
Please go on holiday and come back in 3 or 6 or 9 months.
Everything needs it's time. More is not to say.
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Looks they have a new developer. So far I have not seen Vit Stanislav yet?

Yep, he is new one. He will develop Lisk-Nano. 
Whether it would be better to make Lisk and attract investors with what they are doing during this time ??

Although there has been no progress in the current Lisk this ...

They will continue Lisk development. New version is ready to test.https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk/milestones .They already accept effect of their delay. Price is proof. Attraction is cheap price/ upcoming events / developments of Lisk / finally SDK. Good for long term.
See the results on the current List price is disappointing, continues and continues to decline little by little, there is no change in the development of this ..


Of course the development has changed.
But for that you have to look in GitHub and not every 3 minutes in Polo.

The result on Polo will be visible in months.


Despite the construction of many changes, but still, the price on the stock currently showing 8k sit still, no movement of your joke ..
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This thread is super massive. Is there a link to roadmap and SDK timeline please?

To understand the delay with the SDK, please read this:

Lisk Blockchain Applications — The Future of the SDK
 
The Lisk team is getting bigger and bigger.
And that means the development will be faster in the near future. Maybe we'll see the SDK earlier this year.

i want it to get better and better. size isn't everything.

Damn bitch. quibbling
First all screams "Not enough Devs.
Now there are more Devs at Lisk and LOGICAL is then a team bigger!!
This was a quantitative statement.
And of course it could be better.




"could..be better". understatement of the Lisk year so far.

Everything bla bla bla,

Next year you'll write: the color of isabellas hair should be darker.
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Place your bets before countdown ends
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This thread is super massive. Is there a link to roadmap and SDK timeline please?

To understand the delay with the SDK, please read this:

Lisk Blockchain Applications — The Future of the SDK
 
The Lisk team is getting bigger and bigger.
And that means the development will be faster in the near future. Maybe we'll see the SDK earlier this year.

i want it to get better and better. size isn't everything.

Damn bitch. quibbling
First all screams "Not enough Devs.
Now there are more Devs at Lisk and LOGICAL is then a team bigger!!
This was a quantitative statement.
And of course it could be better.




"could..be better". understatement of the Lisk year so far.
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Looks they have a new developer. So far I have not seen Vit Stanislav yet?

Yep, he is new one. He will develop Lisk-Nano. 
Whether it would be better to make Lisk and attract investors with what they are doing during this time ??

Although there has been no progress in the current Lisk this ...

They will continue Lisk development. New version is ready to test.https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk/milestones .They already accept effect of their delay. Price is proof. Attraction is cheap price/ upcoming events / developments of Lisk / finally SDK. Good for long term.
See the results on the current List price is disappointing, continues and continues to decline little by little, there is no change in the development of this ..


Of course the development has changed.
But for that you have to look in GitHub and not every 3 minutes in Polo.

The result on Polo will be visible in months.

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Lisk the future is bright!
This thread is super massive. Is there a link to roadmap and SDK timeline please?

To understand the delay with the SDK, please read this:

Lisk Blockchain Applications — The Future of the SDK
 
The Lisk team is getting bigger and bigger.
And that means the development will be faster in the near future. Maybe we'll see the SDK earlier this year.

i want it to get better and better. size isn't everything.

Damn bitch. quibbling
First all screams "Not enough Devs.
Now there are more Devs at Lisk and LOGICAL is then a team bigger!!
This was a quantitative statement.
And of course it could be better.




ah. nothing is good for them. all the bs posts off that ppl that know nothing.. they cant handle they lost money on the dumps?  

team too small -- not good
team bigger     --   not good
big pump   ----   not good
big dump  ---   not good
inflation --- not good afther 5 years its over. not good

and 1000 bs other things.
nothing is good but they keep comming back here.
 maybe that is also not good?

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Looks they have a new developer. So far I have not seen Vit Stanislav yet?

Yep, he is new one. He will develop Lisk-Nano. 
Whether it would be better to make Lisk and attract investors with what they are doing during this time ??

Although there has been no progress in the current Lisk this ...

They will continue Lisk development. New version is ready to test.https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk/milestones .They already accept effect of their delay. Price is proof. Attraction is cheap price/ upcoming events / developments of Lisk / finally SDK. Good for long term.
See the results on the current List price is disappointing, continues and continues to decline little by little, there is no change in the development of this ..
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Lisk the future is bright!
yeah inflation is not a verry good thing. but you need to see it like this it is getting smaller evey year. afther 5 years its good. its not a pump dump project its a big project. and big project takes time. most people know this kind off stuff before they buy a stack off coins. real investors..
real investors are still in lisk. and only buying more right now.
p/d investors are the people that did the dumps. they dont know much about a single coin afther they bought it they think this is not good and that isnt good..

yes every coin needs p/d people. to make the market look hot.
yes lisk has plenty off big investors on board.
most big investors not going all in from start. so this will come year by year..

can lisk fall much more? nobody knows. but its likely not going down much more. investors dont like that there coin is undervaluted. bottem will be found.

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This thread is super massive. Is there a link to roadmap and SDK timeline please?

To understand the delay with the SDK, please read this:

Lisk Blockchain Applications — The Future of the SDK
 
The Lisk team is getting bigger and bigger.
And that means the development will be faster in the near future. Maybe we'll see the SDK earlier this year.

i want it to get better and better. size isn't everything.

Damn bitch. quibbling
First all screams "Not enough Devs.
Now there are more Devs at Lisk and LOGICAL is then a team bigger!!
This was a quantitative statement.
And of course it could be better.


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Huge sell wall on Polo  Sad
This is not good
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Hi Guys!

After consulting with my lawyers Today I have formally launched a complained with Swiss authorities against Max and Oliver. Lisk is paying huge sums of money to light curve whose beneficial owners are max and Oliver. This is direct violation of Gmbh rules and regulations. I will keep the community posted about the update on the case.


you have, really?

it does seem like an odd arrangement to control a foundation and funnel its money to your own for profit private entity. i think they conveniently neglected to mention it at the time of the ICO. wide open to abuse.


It's probably the legal way for them to transfer ICO money, and there is most likely nothing you can do about it.
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