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Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 40. (Read 3074122 times)

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Raport z LISK Londyn - moje osobiste odczucia.

Obejmuje również sidechains MADANA i GNY. LISKロンドンの会合レポート - 私の個人的な気持ち。また、MADANAとGNYのサイドチェーンも含まれています。

LISK London meetup report - my personal feelings. Includes the MADANA & GNY sidechains.

https://medium.com/@LiskHighlights/lisk-london-meetup-report-8ad0c7862469
full member
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So current price is being reflected by the Elite Pay and cartel war on payouts? etc, etc.

Lots of drama, wondering if that is why price is down, folk not in HODL mode as much and dumping?

brad


I'm still HODL'ing lisk has been one of my best alts for trading profits in the past and I'm pretty sure it will be again
I also hold lisk. price dropped quite a alot, which leads me to think many people don't believe in success.. don't blame them if price goes down.
legendary
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So current price is being reflected by the Elite Pay and cartel war on payouts? etc, etc.

Lots of drama, wondering if that is why price is down, folk not in HODL mode as much and dumping?

brad


I'm still HODL'ing lisk has been one of my best alts for trading profits in the past and I'm pretty sure it will be again
sr. member
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Hello everyone!
Check out my new banner and My new delegate proposal website!
I hope you like it.
More features will be added in the future!
/]http://lisk.samuray.io/




Go Lisk!
hero member
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As i see it rank2 liskpool_com_01 shares 50%, and rank 29 liskpool.top shares 90% why the heck does the votemanager of lisk.builders tells me to unvote rank 29 (which shares more, and not rank2 which shares 40% less?
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Oct 4th -> LiskHQ Blockchain Meetup in Berlin
"Something great is going to be revealed!"

https://twitter.com/MeyadeC/status/1046361443246002178
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Clueless!
So current price is being reflected by the Elite Pay and cartel war on payouts? etc, etc.

Lots of drama, wondering if that is why price is down, folk not in HODL mode as much and dumping?

brad
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Lisk is one of my long term investments and i will not sell one single coin in the next two years. I have so much trust in this team and project. I still believe this can change so much problems in the future.
legendary
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Ark is shit at its best. They are a bad fork of Lisk with a very manipulating community that is trying to put FUD on Lisk.
Lol brother, They are not the true fork of Lisk, they have stable agenda and they have been continuously working on their pilot system. Their community is even more stronger than Lisk who dont fight for delegate positions.
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We love blockchain !

🔥News from Sherwood🔥



Phoenix1969 just join our pool !

What does it mean ? Well, it means that Phoenix1969 will start sharing its reward through RobinHood delegate.
What do you need to do : nothing, if you have vote for Phoenix1969 and (at least) RobinHood, your balance is now on the new Sherwood pool website : http://robinhood.liberspirita.net/stats/

Don’t forget to vote all Sherwood  members in order to get your full reward :
- RobinHood who shares 100%
- LiberSpirita who shares 50%
- Liskpro.com who shares 50%
- BloqSpace.io who will share 50%
- Phoenix1969 who share now 50%

What a strong share ! 😮👊




Please note that BloqSpace.io and Phoenix1969 will be required (to get the complete reward) after the 1st of October ! 🔥
hero member
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Why isn't LiskHQ changing the amount delegates compulsorily have to pay to their voters to a fixed percentage? The problem right now is, that delegates/cartels are dictating the prices. If everyone would have to offer the same, there wouldn't be anymore cartels and delegates contributing the most will remain.

Short answer: There's no way to enforce this without effectively centralizing the system. Say, 90% of your earnings need to be shared.

  • 1. Someone could still undercut it and distribute 91% instead of 90% to get more votes. There's no way to prevent this, because how can the network as a whole differentiate between a regular transaction and a voting bribe payment? And even if there would be a way to punish unwanted behavior, delegates are enforcing the rules, so…
  • 2. …if a majority of delegates refuses to adapt these changes, there's not much the Lisk team can do. Forking them out would essentially mean that they admit that Lisk is centralized, either by the delegates, or the dev team. Plus, you'd start with a new fork, which has exactly the same weaknesses as the network before.
  • 3. With cartels voting for each other, most of the compulsory share lands back in their own pocket anyway. You can't detect which voter is part of the cartel.

Fact is: Lisks DPoS is inherently broken. There's no sugarcoating it. Having an ARK-style way of vote-distribution, where the voting weight is divided among the delegates a voter voted for, fixes it a bit, though not commpletely, I'm afraid.
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Future in Focus: BrikBit
https://blog.lisk.io/future-in-focus-brikbit-8e983d85ff3f

This week, Future in Focus is featuring Italy-based BrikBit. BrikBit will be built on the Lisk-based blockchain ecosystem and develop, as well as manage entire operations for the real estate industry. Within the BrikBit ecosystem, all shareholders involved in real estate projects will be able to use the potential of blockchain technology to automate, disintermediate and make more transparent both typical and implicit processes during all steps involved in a real estate enterprise such as fund collection, design, creation and management. We had a chance to chat with CTO and co-founder Alex Dell’Orto.

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Clueless!
Why isn't LiskHQ changing the amount delegates compulsorily have to pay to their voters to a fixed percentage? The problem right now is, that delegates/cartels are dictating the prices. If everyone would have to offer the same, there wouldn't be anymore cartels and delegates contributing the most will remain.

Trouble with cartels is they have the power, as soon as you'd get such a change thru ...the delegates would flood the market and tank it with lisk ..why keep lisk on hand in

massive amounts if i can't make bank on it as you say above....thus like in the economic crisis of the usa...and bankers .big lisk players have us by the balls..so imho, not a chance

in hell this system will change with the danger and the amount of LISK being held to be a delegate and get away with this...

ON the other hand, it forces these big boys to hodl lisk...which otherwise would not be the case...it musta hurt like hell to watch LISK drop from what 30 bucks to now 3.42 usd

so not exactly all in their favor risk wise

anyway, what do I know, I bought 2k of lisk at $8.42 I think it was and now it is $3.42....oops...as a source to count on ..me...not so much

brad
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Why isn't LiskHQ changing the amount delegates compulsorily have to pay to their voters to a fixed percentage? The problem right now is, that delegates/cartels are dictating the prices. If everyone would have to offer the same, there wouldn't be anymore cartels and delegates contributing the most will remain.
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I'm not Ark agent, not even close. "LISK SIDECHAIN MADANA", this is bullshit pure scam. MADANA is just a simple forked of Lisk, again, Lisk don't have sidechain tech and not even close of having anytime soon even though this tech already exist on Ark. It's call Ark Deployer, you know Lisk could of just rename it to Lisk blockchain creator or sidechain creator, something like that. There is no easier spoon feed than this.

Hi,

no we won't fork of Lisk.

We are partnered with Lisk and we will build the first Lisk sidechain dApp as soon as the SDK is available.

We are currently building everything necessary around in the meantime as our open platform consists of multiple technologies, not only blockchain.


Currently we are in the Pre-Sale phase.


Best,


The MADANA team.
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It's just me. I'm annoyed to see Lisk keep copying Ark ideas. Everything you see with Ark expecting to see it with Lisk a few months later.
A month ago it was this extra field and now dynamic fees, then Ark deployer? Lisk look more and more like Ark and it step on my foot/toe.
I meant you guys giving the Lisk team so much luxury times here and it offer nothing from it subject as Lisk + JavaScript App/sidechain. It's a very thin line of Lisk being a vaporware. I think basically most of you guys been fooled!
legendary
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Ark is shit at its best. They are a bad fork of Lisk with a very manipulating community that is trying to put FUD on Lisk.

They have some qualities but they certainly are not better from the lisk team at anything, dont know why are they so immature and always trashing and fuding lisk like ten year olds...
newbie
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Ark is shit at its best. They are a bad fork of Lisk with a very manipulating community that is trying to put FUD on Lisk.
full member
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just out of curiosity - how can this Madana-project run "as a sidechain" in the near future? Lisk itself still can't serve such tech (after almost 3 years of development), and it´s still unclear when these sidechains will be finally available, tested and ready for usage? Find it a bit surprising if you as startup can allow the luxury of waiting, waiting and furthermore waiting...

I was wondering the same thing, looking at the comments on their telegram channel the SDK is about 1 year away from being available. It's possible that those rumours are just spread by fudders or secret ARK agents and the SDK release date is actually closer than we think.
I don’t know too many things about ark, but I  think there has potential to provide good investment opportunity to new people in coming months.
hero member
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Seems like GDT Pool resolved all issues. Last payment was correct.
And https://pool.liskgdt.net/account now works correctly.
Thanks.

Yep, also received a large payment from GDT pool. Looks like they have resolved all issues.

Yes. All looks good and I hope it won't happen again. Still, all good as usual  Wink Wink
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