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MalReynolds you are a stupid monkey.
BitBanksy and MalReynolds you are worthless delegates and must leave top 101.

We need more pools in delegates, vote please for pools:
Lisk Pools List :
    Delegate                                         Rank                                                        Profit share                               Address
liskpool_com_01                                      1                                                           85%                            http://www.liskpool.com
robinhood and liberspirita                        3, 11                                                      100%                            http://robinhood.liberspirita.net/
thepool                                                 2                                                          75%                             http://thepool.io
shinekami                                              31                                                         85%                             https://lskpool.lisk-ua.net
liskpool.top                                           131                                                        90%                             https://liskpool.top
olejegcord                                            133                                                         75%                            https://adlisk.pro
adliskpool                                             150                                                         100%                           https://adliskpool.pro/
newbie
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Guys, just think:

do you want that 101 persons earn Lisks and dont share anything which is btw the worst thing for Lisk ecosystem, or do you want that the income of them is shared among all the Lisk holders who are voting?

Dont vote for delegates who are not sharing their income!!

Seriously after getting the hard numbers you come out with that? 100k lisk earns you 9.5 usd a month, being generous. $120 a year. I'd rather leave them in a wallet and do nothing with them.

Seriously , this is the price for right now. who knows the price in 2 years. maybe this 9.5 usd a month, is then 90.5 usd or even more if i holded it and did not sell..
legendary
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You wanna make money?  Do what I did, move all your financial assets from Lisk to something like ICONOMI that offers the promise of a financial return much greater than " under 1% from pool payouts". 
Malreynolds being his usual thorough self, so I'll TL;DR it for you

If you vote for liskpool_com_1 with 100 000 lisk you will get less than 60 Lisk reward per month. That's about 9.5 usd.
And I'm willing to bet most of the pool enthusiasts here are voting with a lot less than 100k.

so what. it is more than nothing. and why should 101 delegates get everything. that is the point of the pools.
sr. member
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Quote from: breeze71
I don't want to be a delegate. I want to Lisk has become an attractive investment.

Than be patient. Quite a lot has been accomplished so far: offices, mainnet, foundation etc... now that LiskHQ has full access to the funds, the development side of things will grow rapidly.
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Guys, just think:

do you want that 101 persons earn Lisks and dont share anything which is btw the worst thing for Lisk ecosystem, or do you want that the income of them is shared among all the Lisk holders who are voting?

Dont vote for delegates who are not sharing their income!!

Seriously after getting the hard numbers you come out with that? 100k lisk earns you 9.5 usd a month, being generous. $120 a year. I'd rather leave them in a wallet and do nothing with them.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
Guys, just think:

do you want that 101 persons earn Lisks and dont share anything which is btw the worst thing for Lisk ecosystem, or do you want that the income of them is shared among all the Lisk holders who are voting?

Dont vote for delegates who are not sharing their income!!
hero member
Activity: 739
Merit: 500
You wanna make money?  Do what I did, move all your financial assets from Lisk to something like ICONOMI that offers the promise of a financial return much greater than " under 1% from pool payouts". 
Malreynolds being his usual thorough self, so I'll TL;DR it for you

If you vote for liskpool_com_1 with 100 000 lisk you will get less than 60 Lisk reward per month. That's about 9.5 usd.
And I'm willing to bet most of the pool enthusiasts here are voting with a lot less than 100k.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
...The pools won't last anyway so it is not a problem in the long run...

Correct.  

Check the Delegate Explorer at https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor, then DO THE MATH.  

The top tier individual forgers have around 14% approval, or around 14M votes.  The top pools have 17.0 to 17.5% approval, or around 17.5M votes.  It seems reasonable to say that pools have attracted 3.5M votes from Lisk holders wanting to use the pools as a "faucet".  

Any delegate, including pools, ideally forge around 85 blocks per day with each block currently yielding a 5 Lisk reward.  That's 85*5 = 425 Lisk per day, or 365*425 = 155,125 Lisk per year.   Every Lisk vote for a pool gets 155,125 / 17,500,000 = 0.0088642 Lisk per year as their "reward".

The annual financial return on ANY Lisk Pool vote is well under 1% per year.

Let's look at the 3.5M votes that pools have apparently attracted over and above baseline delegate voting.  These "faucet hopeful" voters get to split 155,155 / (3.5M/17.5M) = 31,025 Lisk per year among themselves.  At 15 cents per Lisk, the vocal pro-pool posters in this thread are splitting up the equivalent of less than $5000 per year from a pool among themselves.  

If YOU are voting "only for pools", how much of this $5000 will YOU get?  Take your Lisk pool vote total, divide it by 3,500,000, and multiply it by 5000.  That final number, in dollars, is how much you are going to make in the next year from the pool you voted for.

Also, the pool rewards go down by 20% per year as the Lisk block reward goes from 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 Lisk.

You wanna make money?  Do what I did, move your financial assets from Lisk to something like ICONOMI that offers the hope of a financial return much greater than "under 1% from pool payouts".  

You want to support a development project with great potential to revolutionize blockchain technology?  Do what I do, run a testnet Lisk node at your own expense, or a mainnet Lisk node even as a Standby Delegate, or maybe soon even run a Lisk sidechain delegate node.  You will spend a lot of money on computer server rentals and you will have to worry about whether your Lisk node is running every single moment of every single day.  But you will be supporting Lisk, and Lisk is worth supporting.

Guys, don't argue about pool voting.  If you want to do it, do it.  Go for a couple of months and ask yourself if you are making what you had hoped.  The answer will be no.  Then move on to the next thing in your crypto journey.  Good luck to you.

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sr. member
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They brought lisk to buy lisk and if they wanted to forge they should have forged themselves. The pools won't last anyway so it is not a problem in the long run, cash in while you can ladies.
If you don't like it, you can buy a large amount of Lisk on the stock exchange and to vote for the other delegates or to persuade the major Lisk holders vote for you.  If a man bought Lisk for real money, he has the right to vote for delegates whom he loves. Should be competition. Cool Or active work for Lisk and getting a lot of respect in the community
or buy a large amount of Lisk on the stock exchange if you want to be a delegate. People will not vote for a lazy ass. Grin


Shows how little you know. I could buy many delegate places but being to lazy and not having no lisk means I'ma all out of luck  Cry Shocked Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Better that they do everything according to the rules and regulations and make sure their company infrastructure is properly set up than that the shit starts hitting the fan.

All the good stuff was not build in one day, crypto should get used to the fact that development takes time.

Code is the fundamental basis cryptocurrency. This aspect should be given a lot of time and money. PR and rebranding can wait. Otherwise Lisk investors will become old farts when SDK is ready.

Dear Max, people want to see a real smart javascript nerds. You need to find them. Go go go!



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They brought lisk to buy lisk and if they wanted to forge they should have forged themselves. The pools won't last anyway so it is not a problem in the long run, cash in while you can ladies.
If you don't like it, you can buy a large amount of Lisk on the stock exchange and to vote for the other delegates or to persuade the large Lisk holders vote for you.  If a man bought Lisk for real money, he has the right to vote for delegates whom he loves. Should be competition. Cool Or active work for Lisk and getting a lot of respect in the community
or buy a large amount of Lisk on the stock exchange if you want to be a delegate. People will not vote for a lazy ass. Grin

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The dev has our investors money, why is he not pasting buy support?

Without price stability, this project is rekt.
Don't need to to manipulate the market. A cheap Lisk allow you to acquire a large voting power.  

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Yes I'm not a developer or a bag holder and I never pretended to be such. However like me, you are more than welcome to join our community, contribute meaningfully by maintaining both testnet & mainnet, create a good delegate proposal and hopefully you may become a forger. All the best for now
I don't want to be a delegate. I want to Lisk has become an attractive investment.
hero member
Activity: 910
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A happy new year for all of you



Today's delegates of my small Twitter campaign (https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1238):

GoldenEye, SpaceTrucker, Samuray, Dafricash



If you like this please RT.

Twitter Moments: Lisk - Community Delegates:
https://twitter.com/i/moments/809360501713080320

sr. member
Activity: 357
Merit: 250
Who have not yet voted, please vote for my pool https://liskpool.top

Pool reward 90%
Delegate name: liskpool.top
Rank 134

Happy New Year!


how can i vote?


Logging into your wallet and voting for 'liskpool.top'

Why would he bother running for delegate for 10%, the rest of the freebies 90% given to unknown members who do what with their freecoins. I hope pools don't last but greed will keep them going I suspect.
These unknown members bought lisk for their money and have the right to receive income from forging.

They brought lisk to buy lisk and if they wanted to forge they should have forged themselves. The pools won't last anyway so it is not a problem in the long run, cash in while you can ladies.
hero member
Activity: 824
Merit: 1000
Financial Report 2016

With the successful establishment of the Lisk Foundation in Zug we conclude this year with a Financial Report. Going forward in 2017 we will publish similar reports on a monthly basis.

With the registration of the entity complete, we now open our funds for public inspection.


Well done guys! A nice way to conclude 2016 and open up a new chapter. All the best to LiskHQ & may this new year be full of success!



another chart analysis for 2017:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/LSKBTC/MmR8UIsC-Lsk-potential-trend-reversal/



OWH REALY...?? NICE TO SEE this
full member
Activity: 127
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Quote from: breeze71
Because BitBanksy is not a major investor or great javascript developer. He received the delegate place only due to the large lsk premine Max&Oliver.  Grin Community will not vote for him.

Yes I'm not a developer or a bag holder and I never pretended to be such. However like me, you are more than welcome to join our community, contribute meaningfully by maintaining both testnet & mainnet, create a good delegate proposal and hopefully you may become a forger. All the best for now  Wink 

Im all for what you guys are doing. That's completely fair in my opinion. Just curious, how much did it cost to become a 101 delegate ?

Time & determination.... that's all Wink

So it didn't cost you any lisk?
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 257
And we go again.
this coin is not moving.. boring to me
Are u kidding? the huge waves near 10%-20% each of 1-2 days. Very interesting trading. But the last goal for me is to buy lsk at 10k. or if i will be lucky - at 8-9k.
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The dev has our investors money, why is he not pasting buy support?

Without price stability, this project is rekt.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
Thanks, tweeted it out as well!

Max the work youre doing here talking with people, retweeting, promoting Lisk on events and similar is good for taking investors money. But since you have already took our money, after 6 months of unsuccessful, slow and lazy tries to hire coders please start hiring coders. You have the money but you dont have time, time is essential in crypto world.

Better that they do everything according to the rules and regulations and make sure their company infrastructure is properly set up than that the shit starts hitting the fan.

All the good stuff was not build in one day, crypto should get used to the fact that development takes time.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Lisk will be #1 alt in 2019.
Thanks, tweeted it out as well!

Max the work youre doing here talking with people, retweeting, promoting Lisk on events and similar is good for taking investors money. But since you have already took our money, after 6 months of unsuccessful, slow and lazy tries to hire coders please start hiring coders. You have the money but you dont have time, time is essential in crypto world.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 509
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