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I implore you to reconsider since this proposal is extremely well thought out. I am going to be brutally honest here. What would tank the price more is the devs not doing as promised. Everything is about managing expectations. The majority of the people here are here for 3% airdrops and a larger distribution towards the end of the claiming period. This plan is a hybrid which truly benefits all parties involved including yourselves. In reality, it is actually harder on the market to go with your plan because it doesn't provide any real incentives moving forward. You want to know why that 300-400% airdrop wont do much to negatively impact the price of the coin? Because of the continuance of the 3 percent airdrop in my proposal. Nobody in their right minds would sell when they know they are going to receive 3% weekly airdrops after a large distribution like that. If anything it would likely positively impact the price. Once February rolls around then there may be an incentive to cash in on profits but at that point the landscape should have changed a little bit. You, as the dev, should have gotten us listed on some larger exchanges so we will have a lot more buy support. We should have a roadmap displayed and some additional development done with the coin. I really thought this one through and it would be in the almost everyone's benefit to go with my proposal.
I think the large exchanges won't accept coins with a big premine or "reserved" amount. That is the problem in this case. The devs need to get rid of the excessive coins first. I do agree with your points though.

--ypsi

About 70% of the coins would not be within any of the devs account on Oct 30. Just look at the spreadsheet and if anyone has questions then I am more than willing to answer them. This would likely be enough to allow us to get on Bittrex and potentially other exchanges. Byteball is currently less distributed than Bitcore would be under this plan and they are currently listed on Bittrex. My plan literally drops all the coins to the BTC holders that the devs wanted to in their plan, provides us BTX early adopters with a larger air drop reward that is closer to what was initially promised, and also continues the 3% weekly distribution for a few more months which invariably would bring new users and maintain our base. I really cant think of a better scenario than this for the devs and for the rest of us. The rest is up to the devs to be a little more transparent and forward thinking about future development.
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I think the airdrop for BTC holder can bring our community. That's a good thing. Much coins include in the minority is dangers.
But there are not so much BTC holders will claim their BTX except the BTX price is more than 100 $.  Grin
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I have come up with a plan that is in between what would benefit the community and what the devs currently want to do which I think is an ideal situation. There are a few assumptions in my projections below. I am assuming that BTC to BTX claiming keeps at the current rate since the beginning of the claiming period at about 21000 per week. This could increase which would shorten the 3% weekly airdrop period but I simply had no idea how to guess this so I stayed with the current rate. I have mining being at a rate of 12,600 per week which is right along what the coin should ideally be given a perfect block time. The airdrops are also assuming that every wallet has 10 BTX which is not the case but it is simply a baseline. On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders, 10% of unclaimed coins going to devs, and the .4 BTX to 1 BTC ratio to BTC holders. The rest would be left for continual 3% weekly airdrops which would tentatively go on until about February 26th. Again, this could be shorter or longer depending upon how many of those mythical BTC holders actually claim their coins. I think this is a reasonable solution which would provide BTX holders with a substantial drop that was similar to what was promised in the beginning, it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months, and also drop or continue the claiming to BTC holders. Tell me what you all think but this is the best I can come up with that would please everyone. Take in mind that the numbers are not exact but they are extremely close.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27

*Edit* If this corresponds with some serious development, marketing, and other good news then I don't really think the coins in circulation will drop the price much if any at all. This plan still actually continues the things that currently are drawing people to BTX but rewards those that deserve it. I do own a substantial portion of BTX so I obviously stand to benefit from the above distribution more than the current model proposed by the devs. That being said, I really do believe it is the best thing to do for everyone in the long run.

On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders
The solution with 25% direct to the BTX holder is a 300 - 400 % Airdrop. The idea is nice but very hard for the market.

it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months
The Airdrop is only with signature and address possible. It is not our goal  to claim with the dev found.

Thank you for your proposal and hard work  Smiley

I implore you to reconsider since this proposal is extremely well thought out. I am going to be brutally honest here. What would tank the price more is the devs not doing as promised. Everything is about managing expectations. The majority of the people here are here for 3% airdrops and a larger distribution towards the end of the claiming period. This plan is a hybrid which truly benefits all parties involved including yourselves. In reality, it is actually harder on the market to go with your plan because it doesn't provide any real incentives moving forward. You want to know why that 300-400% airdrop wont do much to negatively impact the price of the coin? Because of the continuance of the 3 percent airdrop in my proposal. Nobody in their right minds would sell when they know they are going to receive 3% weekly airdrops after a large distribution like that. If anything it would likely positively impact the price. Once February rolls around then there may be an incentive to cash in on profits but at that point the landscape should have changed a little bit. You, as the dev, should have gotten us listed on some larger exchanges so we will have a lot more buy support. We should have a roadmap displayed and some additional development done with the coin. I really thought this one through and it would be in the almost everyone's benefit to go with my proposal.
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i bought 1500 btx ,just for airdrop every week.

wow, you will get rich in future! A good approach
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I got mining going with gpu. I am getting around 15-18mh/s. Can i now add cpu mining aswell and how to do that?
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 i bought 1500 btx ,just for airdrop every week.
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I have come up with a plan that is in between what would benefit the community and what the devs currently want to do which I think is an ideal situation. There are a few assumptions in my projections below. I am assuming that BTC to BTX claiming keeps at the current rate since the beginning of the claiming period at about 21000 per week. This could increase which would shorten the 3% weekly airdrop period but I simply had no idea how to guess this so I stayed with the current rate. I have mining being at a rate of 12,600 per week which is right along what the coin should ideally be given a perfect block time. The airdrops are also assuming that every wallet has 10 BTX which is not the case but it is simply a baseline. On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders, 10% of unclaimed coins going to devs, and the .4 BTX to 1 BTC ratio to BTC holders. The rest would be left for continual 3% weekly airdrops which would tentatively go on until about February 26th. Again, this could be shorter or longer depending upon how many of those mythical BTC holders actually claim their coins. I think this is a reasonable solution which would provide BTX holders with a substantial drop that was similar to what was promised in the beginning, it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months, and also drop or continue the claiming to BTC holders. Tell me what you all think but this is the best I can come up with that would please everyone. Take in mind that the numbers are not exact but they are extremely close.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27

*Edit* If this corresponds with some serious development, marketing, and other good news then I don't really think the coins in circulation will drop the price much if any at all. This plan still actually continues the things that currently are drawing people to BTX but rewards those that deserve it. I do own a substantial portion of BTX so I obviously stand to benefit from the above distribution more than the current model proposed by the devs. That being said, I really do believe it is the best thing to do for everyone in the long run.

On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders
The solution with 25% direct to the BTX holder is a 300 - 400 % Airdrop. The idea is nice but very hard for the market.

it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months
The Airdrop is only with signature and address possible. It is not our goal  to claim with the dev found.

Thank you for your proposal and hard work  Smiley
sr. member
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I have come up with a plan that is in between what would benefit the community and what the devs currently want to do which I think is an ideal situation. There are a few assumptions in my projections below. I am assuming that BTC to BTX claiming keeps at the current rate since the beginning of the claiming period at about 21000 per week. This could increase which would shorten the 3% weekly airdrop period but I simply had no idea how to guess this so I stayed with the current rate. I have mining being at a rate of 12,600 per week which is right along what the coin should ideally be given a perfect block time. The airdrops are also assuming that every wallet has 10 BTX which is not the case but it is simply a baseline. On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders, 10% of unclaimed coins going to devs, and the .4 BTX to 1 BTC ratio to BTC holders. The rest would be left for continual 3% weekly airdrops which would tentatively go on until about February 26th. Again, this could be shorter or longer depending upon how many of those mythical BTC holders actually claim their coins. I think this is a reasonable solution which would provide BTX holders with a substantial drop that was similar to what was promised in the beginning, it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months, and also drop or continue the claiming to BTC holders. Tell me what you all think but this is the best I can come up with that would please everyone. Take in mind that the numbers are not exact but they are extremely close.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27

*Edit* If this corresponds with some serious development, marketing, and other good news then I don't really think the coins in circulation will drop the price much if any at all. This plan still actually continues the things that currently are drawing people to BTX but rewards those that deserve it. I do own a substantial portion of BTX so I obviously stand to benefit from the above distribution more than the current model proposed by the devs. That being said, I really do believe it is the best thing to do for everyone in the long run.

Better than I could have articulated. Well said, man I wish they had a clap emoji **claps now**  Roll Eyes
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I have come up with a plan that is in between what would benefit the community and what the devs currently want to do which I think is an ideal situation. There are a few assumptions in my projections below. I am assuming that BTC to BTX claiming keeps at the current rate since the beginning of the claiming period at about 21000 per week. This could increase which would shorten the 3% weekly airdrop period but I simply had no idea how to guess this so I stayed with the current rate. I have mining being at a rate of 12,600 per week which is right along what the coin should ideally be given a perfect block time. The airdrops are also assuming that every wallet has 10 BTX which is not the case but it is simply a baseline. On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders, 10% of unclaimed coins going to devs, and the .4 BTX to 1 BTC ratio to BTC holders. The rest would be left for continual 3% weekly airdrops which would tentatively go on until about February 26th. Again, this could be shorter or longer depending upon how many of those mythical BTC holders actually claim their coins. I think this is a reasonable solution which would provide BTX holders with a substantial drop that was similar to what was promised in the beginning, it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months, and also drop or continue the claiming to BTC holders. Tell me what you all think but this is the best I can come up with that would please everyone. Take in mind that the numbers are not exact but they are extremely close.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27

*Edit* If this corresponds with some serious development, marketing, and other good news then I don't really think the coins in circulation will drop the price much if any at all. This plan still actually continues the things that currently are drawing people to BTX but rewards those that deserve it. I do own a substantial portion of BTX so I obviously stand to benefit from the above distribution more than the current model proposed by the devs. That being said, I really do believe it is the best thing to do for everyone in the long run.

This for sure is the best idea and will skyrocket the price by the end of the year.
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Suggest doing some linear combination of the following in order of priority:

1) Fund BTX onto a major exchange (Bittrex)

2) Airdrop

3) Reserve fund for use cases.
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Everyone with 10+ btx in their wallets knows how to do airdrop...Sick.
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I have come up with a plan that is in between what would benefit the community and what the devs currently want to do which I think is an ideal situation. There are a few assumptions in my projections below. I am assuming that BTC to BTX claiming keeps at the current rate since the beginning of the claiming period at about 21000 per week. This could increase which would shorten the 3% weekly airdrop period but I simply had no idea how to guess this so I stayed with the current rate. I have mining being at a rate of 12,600 per week which is right along what the coin should ideally be given a perfect block time. The airdrops are also assuming that every wallet has 10 BTX which is not the case but it is simply a baseline. On October 30th, my plan would have 25% of all remaining unclaimed coins going to the BTX holders, 10% of unclaimed coins going to devs, and the .4 BTX to 1 BTC ratio to BTC holders. The rest would be left for continual 3% weekly airdrops which would tentatively go on until about February 26th. Again, this could be shorter or longer depending upon how many of those mythical BTC holders actually claim their coins. I think this is a reasonable solution which would provide BTX holders with a substantial drop that was similar to what was promised in the beginning, it would also allow the devs to continue air drops for a few more months, and also drop or continue the claiming to BTC holders. Tell me what you all think but this is the best I can come up with that would please everyone. Take in mind that the numbers are not exact but they are extremely close.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27

*Edit* If this corresponds with some serious development, marketing, and other good news then I don't really think the coins in circulation will drop the price much if any at all. This plan still actually continues the things that currently are drawing people to BTX but rewards those that deserve it. I do own a substantial portion of BTX so I obviously stand to benefit from the above distribution more than the current model proposed by the devs. That being said, I really do believe it is the best thing to do for everyone in the long run.
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I still need a module for node-multi-hashing   
sr. member
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I don't think so. The more people has this coin the more popularity it will become. So I would say stick with the drops please.
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So, I've had a bit more time to think about my earlier proposal and I think that I've got it.

Instead of the massive airdrop after November 2nd, we continue with the airdrops. Instead of 3% every Monday, we change it to 5% for the entire month of November. Each month after that, the airdrop increases by 1% until all BTX are full distributed. In the model, November would be a 5% airdrop. December would increase to a 6% airdrop. January would increase to 7% and so on until all BTX are distributed.

Imagine the excitement of people knowing that if they get 10 or more BTX  in their wallets, they will be rewarded handsomely every Monday? BTX would be the talk of the entire crypto world. BTC owners would come out of the woodwork to claim their BTX. New people would download the wallet and run to the exchange to buy their Bitcore.

The only reason Bitcoin Cash is doing well is because everyone knew about it months in advance before it forked. Bitcoin Cash was receiving free press from everyone and their grandmother. My proposal would have vloggers posting videos all over the internet. People from China would be using VPNs to create an account on Cryptopia to by BTX. Every exchange would know about Bitcore and investors would flood their exchanges with requests to list Bitcore, just like they did with Bitcoin Cash.

Bitcore is a much better coin than Bitcoin Cash and this would give the crypto world a little taste of what it could be. By the end of the year, the price of Bitcore might be close to $50. If you see the potential of this strategy over the current final pending airdrop, copy and repost and let the devs know that there is a much better option than the one currently in place. We would all benefit from this type of approach. Otherwise, after the final airdrop, Bitcore will flood the market and the price will most likely drop below $1, maybe worse.


the position btx is in now is unique. Its resonable to make 3% weekly airdrops without anyone asking about inflation. These airdrops are the main reason btx is getting momentum: Our Fuel to send this rocket to the moon. Why waste 4 million of this fuel in nov?
As far as i can see noone from the community sees a benefit in dropping these coins to the btc holders.
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There are two reasons why I think the new plan can be improved.

First, the rewards are too insignificant to peak any interest from BTC owners.  For every BTC you own (value of $3650) you will get .4 BTX (value of $1.94).  Most people will have too little BTC to bother retrieving the BTX even if they know about and believe in the project.  I'm a big believer in the project and I have a small amount of BTC but I won't even bother claiming it, its just not worth my time.  On the opposite side of the spectrum you have the whales.  For every $1million dollar worth of BTC that one owns, they will get a mere 111 BTX or less than $550.  Second, BTC holders just recently received a coin that is in many ways similar to BTX, BCH, and we have already seen what they did that coin.  The whales dumped it for a quick profit.  BCH got off to a good start because very few people could trade it early so most couldn't dump it all at once.  Instead the people that had the BCH available to trade were those that were too lazy or simply didn't care enough to transfer the coin off the exchanges, ironic.  This meant there was very few sellers so the coin benefited from the low volume.  BCH is dying and its continually on the decline.  Look at the blocks, no one is doing anything with the coin.  BTX won't benefit by low volume after a BTC airdrop because the exchanges already list BTX and there would be a mass sell-off/panic sale.

We miners and BTX hodlers are the real believers in the coin.  We are the ones who will, yeah maybe take some profits, but will for the most part keep our bags full.  There is going to be a dump once the airdrop either way but if the dedicated followers of BTX get a larger stake of the airdrop then at least our stake won't be diluted.

*Disclosure, I hold a very small position in BTX (14 coins that I mined) so I don't even stand to benefit as greatly either way.  I do have my biases but I really believe in the above.  In the end it won't be a lifechanging event for me anyways but I would take a personal gratification to see a coin I closely follow really take off and I think we can get there quicker.

Either way the devs are doing a great job and I will be loyal either way.  


I agree with this analysis, which in my view is very much reality based. I would add that looking for other ways to increase the adoption base could be beneficial for the long term value of the coin and they should be pursued. Perhaps a bounty campaign would be great. But we should forget about giving tons of BTX to BTC holders who couldn't care less in this moment.
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There are two reasons why I think the new plan can be improved.

First, the rewards are too insignificant to peak any interest from BTC owners.  For every BTC you own (value of $3650) you will get .4 BTX (value of $1.94).  Most people will have too little BTC to bother retrieving the BTX even if they know about and believe in the project.  I'm a big believer in the project and I have a small amount of BTC but I won't even bother claiming it, its just not worth my time.  On the opposite side of the spectrum you have the whales.  For every $1million dollar worth of BTC that one owns, they will get a mere 111 BTX or less than $550.  Second, BTC holders just recently received a coin that is in many ways similar to BTX, BCH, and we have already seen what they did that coin.  The whales dumped it for a quick profit.  BCH got off to a good start because very few people could trade it early so most couldn't dump it all at once.  Instead the people that had the BCH available to trade were those that were too lazy or simply didn't care enough to transfer the coin off the exchanges, ironic.  This meant there was very few sellers so the coin benefited from the low volume.  BCH is dying and its continually on the decline.  Look at the blocks, no one is doing anything with the coin.  BTX won't benefit by low volume after a BTC airdrop because the exchanges already list BTX and there would be a mass sell-off/panic sale.

We miners and BTX hodlers are the real believers in the coin.  We are the ones who will, yeah maybe take some profits, but will for the most part keep our bags full.  There is going to be a dump once the airdrop either way but if the dedicated followers of BTX get a larger stake of the airdrop then at least our stake won't be diluted.

*Disclosure, I hold a very small position in BTX (14 coins that I mined) so I don't even stand to benefit as greatly either way.  I do have my biases but I really believe in the above.  In the end it won't be a lifechanging event for me anyways but I would take a personal gratification to see a coin I closely follow really take off and I think we can get there quicker.

Either way the devs are doing a great job and I will be loyal either way.  
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hey everyone... i like this project so much. because of that i started with mining of BTX. But now, i need your help please.
I mine BTX with my GPU with the sgminer, it works pretty well. Now i will mine with my CPU too. Wrote a .bat and the miner start, but i doesnt work i think. because it shows me only my hashrates and only "new block detected".
I mine with the suprnova pool..create there two workers..user1 for GPU and user2 for CPU... GPU and user1 works..but when i start the cpu miner it shows my, like i wrote, only the hashrates and on suprnova under worker and the worker user2 for CPU shows me nothing.
i think my .bat is wrong, can somebody help me ?

It means your CPU has very few hashrate and can't find any share.  Look for another pool with lower stratum difficulity if you really want use CPU
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I think that I am OK with this new distribution change.
Although it's going to mean less coins for us BTX holders, it's also going to mean there's a lot of unclaimed coins that won't be hitting the market for some time. Take Clams, it's a couple of years since that snapshot and I've only just got around to digging for those very recently.

Is the 40% to BTC holders, the 25% to BTX holders and all the intervening 3% drops going to account for all unclaimed Bitcore is all I am wondering?

It isn't 25% of remaining coins but a 25% increase on everyone's balance as of October 30. I would be more ok if we were to get dropped 25% of unclaimed coins in proportion to how many we own at the time of the snapshot. I get the point as far as "distributing" coins and them remaining off of the market but that is kind of market manipulation. Those coins would essentially be distributed but not really which would artificially increase the market-cap but it would not be organic in any way shape or form. To me it would be beneficial to just continue a higher rate of the weekly airdrop which would incentive getting into the coin and also holding it for us long time bitcore holders.

Some suggestions for upcoming drop

1) I would not mind seeing 25% of the unclaimed coins be sent out to loyal BTX holders!
2) Burn unclaimed BTX (if such small % is claimed and you want marketcap increased this makes sense)
3) Make the weekly drops 5-10% with increasing airdrop rates. As well as add signatures, bounties, and whatever else needed for guerrilla marketing
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Dear Bitcore community,

we wanted to say thank you to all of you and your broad support!


The first weeks were very successful, and we are happy to announce you the following points:

1. The claiming at bitcore.cc from the april snapshot will end exactly in November, the 2nd, 2017, 12 pm CEST (UTC +2).

2. The increasing demand of Bitcore motivated us to gift you with two nice surprises.

We will create an actual snapshot of the bitcoin blockchain in october, the 30th. Every adress with min. 0.001 BTC will be funded with 40% Bitcore (BTX) of the total amount per bitcoinadress.
At this way, we will distribute approximately 7 million Bitcore (BTX) directly. In the end we drop around 45-50% of all nonclaimed bitcore and increase the circulation supply with around 8 millon coins.

We load the coins directly to the public keys, which are included in the snapshot. You can redeem them without a time limit.

We also have a special surprise for our loyal bitcoreholders on october, the 30th. Every bitcoreholder with local wallets loaded min. 10 BTX gets an special one time airdrop of 25% instead of 3% !

3. We will be updating our weekly 3% monday airdrop. At the beginning of october, we place an online registration page for the 3% airdrop. You have to registrate ONE TIME your BTX adress with a signed message.
From november, the 2nd, the weekly monday airdrop will be only paid to registered adresses. The rule to have min. 10 BTX in your wallet will be dropped.

To be sure that you are captured for the snapshot, it is imperative that the Bitcore (BTX) have arrived in your wallet not later than 6 blocks after midnight!

We reserve the rights to make changes as required.

Your Bitcore Team

Jon, Chris & Steve


I think that I am OK with this new distribution change.
Although it's going to mean less coins for us BTX holders, it's also going to mean there's a lot of unclaimed coins that won't be hitting the market for some time. Take Clams, it's a couple of years since that snapshot and I've only just got around to digging for those very recently.

Is the 40% to BTC holders, the 25% to BTX holders and all the intervening 3% drops going to account for all unclaimed Bitcore is all I am wondering?

It isn't 25% of remaining coins but a 25% increase on everyone's balance as of October 30. I would be more ok if we were to get dropped 25% of unclaimed coins in proportion to how many we own at the time of the snapshot. I get the point as far as "distributing" coins and them remaining off of the market but that is kind of market manipulation. Those coins would essentially be distributed but not really which would artificially increase the market-cap but it would not be organic in any way shape or form. To me it would be beneficial to just continue a higher rate of the weekly airdrop which would incentive getting into the coin and also holding it for us long time bitcore holders.
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