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Topic: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 - page 13. (Read 1106910 times)

legendary
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Explorer domain went down.
Any replacements?
hero member
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
Many coins are moved from small Cryptsy addresses to the largest Mooncoin address 2cLG2RzF6rDCtNws6We8o8avXs1grqARHU http://cryptoguru.tk/Address/index.php?Currency=MOON&Address=2cLG2RzF6rDCtNws6We8o8avXs1grqARHU,
first used on October, 23, 2016.

Due to this accumulating currently there are only 34,890 funded Mooncoin addresses.
http://cryptoguru.tk/CurrencyInfo/index.php?Currency=MOON
Several days ago there were ~ 44,000 funded addresses.
Many people traded MOON at Cryptsy, you can see.
hero member
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
Correction: 70 B 83 B.
Coins have been recently moved from old Cryptsy addresses to top new 2 addresses.
hero member
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Fixed Rewards vs. Halving

Fixed block rewards:

many investors (let's say 1000) would like to buy MOON -> but they understand MOON has an inflation of 1 billion MOON per month and a price can be lower (as it is being mined and dumped on a daily basis) -> 997-998 investors wait and don't buy, 2-3 (out of 1000) are buying -> a price is lower and lower -> less miners -> the network hashrate is lower and lower -> people have no faith and indicate no activity -> people who already have MOON try to sell it -> the price is below 1 Satoshi -> no MOON listing at large exchanges -> less investors -> there is a closed circle...

Halving:

~1000 investors would like to buy MOON -> and they understand there will be less and less mined coins in future -> 999 investors don't wait and buy -> a price is higher and higher -> more miners -> the network hashrate is greater and greater -> people have faith and the community is active -> new talented supporters come -> people who already have MOON try to buy more -> entering the BTC market and MOON listing at large exchanges -> more investors - > next levels of development.

You decide.


In my own opinion, I think that the halving would be the right path to go for Mooncoin. It would make it more scarce, and thus it would have a positive effect in its price since it would become a deflationary currency, instead of being inflationary like it is right now. This would also increase interest and activity into the coin making its marketcap ranking increase as time goes by.

Now, any idea if the supply would remain the same of will there be a change of current supply too? Sorry for asking, I'm just curious to know about this.   Cheesy

What do you mean? The total supply of 384.4 billion, announced by an original dev?
If rewards stay fixed, it only takes ~17 years to reach this number,
but if people choose halving, then it will stay untouched for centuries and milleniums.
legendary
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Fixed Rewards vs. Halving

Fixed block rewards:

many investors (let's say 1000) would like to buy MOON -> but they understand MOON has an inflation of 1 billion MOON per month and a price can be lower (as it is being mined and dumped on a daily basis) -> 997-998 investors wait and don't buy, 2-3 (out of 1000) are buying -> a price is lower and lower -> less miners -> the network hashrate is lower and lower -> people have no faith and indicate no activity -> people who already have MOON try to sell it -> the price is below 1 Satoshi -> no MOON listing at large exchanges -> less investors -> there is a closed circle...

Halving:

~1000 investors would like to buy MOON -> and they understand there will be less and less mined coins in future -> 999 investors don't wait and buy -> a price is higher and higher -> more miners -> the network hashrate is greater and greater -> people have faith and the community is active -> new talented supporters come -> people who already have MOON try to buy more -> entering the BTC market and MOON listing at large exchanges -> more investors - > next levels of development.

You decide.


In my own opinion, I think that the halving would be the right path to go for Mooncoin. It would make it more scarce, and thus it would have a positive effect in its price since it would become a deflationary currency, instead of being inflationary like it is right now. This would also increase interest and activity into the coin making its marketcap ranking increase as time goes by.

Now, any idea if the supply would remain the same of will there be a change of current supply too? Sorry for asking, I'm just curious to know about this.   Cheesy
hero member
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Just when I think I'm starting to learn about currencies in the crypto-world I see something like this. I don't understand how such a popular thread which so many posts and views and such a popular coin is not really trading much ? But other coins that have far less popularity are selling in decent volumes. Huh

Thank you for your comment.
There are 3 good reasons probably:
1) a described above closed circle due to a price is below 1 Satoshi + inflation (to be exact not inflation itself, but fixed rewards that have an impact on future expectations)
2) the so-called 'wisdom of crowds' (which has nothing in common with true folk wisdom) when crowds buy coins that already have a big market cap, or/and ICOs in hope to make a quick buck, and ignore fair and popular classic coins
3) exchanges (how to know whether an exchange cares about profit only or also about decentralization and fairness?)
if an exchange prefers to list a brand new coin with several big holders inside and let them attract investors through pumps, and at the same time ignores classic well-known and time-tested coins with more than 40,000 funded addresses, you understand.


hero member
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You decide.

Why not wait and see what happens to that 70B on Cryptsy before forcing a decision?

Cheers

Graham



Thank you for your question and for your support of Mooncoin.

These 70 B have their legal owners, and these owners vote now.

What will happen to these coins?
There are only 3 variants:
1) they will be returned to their legal owners
2) they will be sold, maybe partially
3) they will stay untouched.

We can wait, but it could be very long waiting.

And every year there will be about ~10.5 billion mined coins more,
if rewards stay fixed, it only takes less than 7 years to produce 70 billion more.
In less than 17 years the total supply will be higher than 384.4 billion,
and this number was announced by an original dev, so anyway this limit must be kept untouched, if we want Mooncoin to stay honest.

We all have been waiting for 2+ years for any development already since 2014, when an original dev had disappeared.

Why so many coins on Cryptsy? Because common people (who were not able to compile by themselves) had no trusted working wallet, when withdrawals were allowed.
When a working wallet was compiled, it was too late already.

Would you like to help Mooncoin and to make an independent compilation of the new up to date wallet with DigiShield and probably with halving (of course only if people support that), when it's ready?

Edit: calculation.

 
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Just when I think I'm starting to learn about currencies in the crypto-world I see something like this. I don't understand how such a popular thread which so many posts and views and such a popular coin is not really trading much ? But other coins that have far less popularity are selling in decent volumes. Huh
legendary
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You decide.

Why not wait and see what happens to that 70B on Cryptsy before forcing a decision?

Cheers

Graham
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legendary
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MOON listing at large exchanges -> more investors - > next levels of development.

You decide.

Halving sounds best as you must have a base price of at least 1 satoshi in order not to fall off the radar of the many generally interested in the whole crypto spectrum of coins.
Mooncoin must have genuine support or it'd never have lasted this long, I think this choice would be best to accumulate on that core population
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Less hops. More wins.
legendary
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To The Moon !
Fixed Rewards vs. Halving

Fixed block rewards:

many investors (let's say 1000) would like to buy MOON -> but they understand MOON has an inflation of 1 billion MOON per month and a price can be lower (as it is being mined and dumped on a daily basis) -> 997-998 investors wait and don't buy, 2-3 (out of 1000) are buying -> a price is lower and lower -> less miners -> the network hashrate is lower and lower -> people have no faith and indicate no activity -> people who already have MOON try to sell it -> the price is below 1 Satoshi -> no MOON listing at large exchanges -> less investors -> there is a closed circle...

Halving:

~1000 investors would like to buy MOON -> and they understand there will be less and less mined coins in future -> 999 investors don't wait and buy -> a price is higher and higher -> more miners -> the network hashrate is greater and greater -> people have faith and the community is active -> new talented supporters come -> people who already have MOON try to buy more -> entering the BTC market and MOON listing at large exchanges -> more investors - > next levels of development.

You decide.


Good afternoon from Greece. I think that the better solution is the halving. 
hero member
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Fixed Rewards vs. Halving

Fixed block rewards:

many investors (let's say 1000) would like to buy MOON -> but they understand MOON has an inflation of 1 billion MOON per month and a price can be lower (as it is being mined and dumped on a daily basis) -> 997-998 investors wait and don't buy, 2-3 (out of 1000) are buying -> a price is lower and lower -> less miners -> the network hashrate is lower and lower -> people have no faith and indicate no activity -> people who already have MOON try to sell it -> the price is below 1 Satoshi -> no MOON listing at large exchanges -> less investors -> there is a closed circle...

Halving:

~1000 investors would like to buy MOON -> and they understand there will be less and less mined coins in future -> 999 investors don't wait and buy -> a price is higher and higher -> more miners -> the network hashrate is greater and greater -> people have faith and the community is active -> new talented supporters come -> people who already have MOON try to buy more -> entering the BTC market and MOON listing at large exchanges -> more investors - > next levels of development.

You decide.
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Thank you ever so much, really appreciate that. Smiley

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legendary
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Can someone give me the link to download the windows wallet please?

 Roll Eyes


Here the last version of Windows qt wallet

https://github.com/walletbuilders/mooncoin

 Peers.dat , wallets windows and mac osx old (copy of original client) and new in my cloud

https://ln.sync.com/dl/4dcfa48b0#uhyqftbk-wxz2k89j-z8byuqjf-3xq97y9v

hero member
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Less hops. More wins.
What percentage of the total mooncoin supply is stuck on Cryptsy? If it's a big percentage it could explain why mooncoin has a low price. Big Vern tried is dumping any high value coins that were in Cryptsy and it's putting people off buying them. He's destroyed the value of numerous good coins.

About 70 billion (one third of available supply). We have no information regarding Big Vern's dumping them. Coins are still at top addresses.

If you know for sure that Big Vern does have a control on them (Cryptsy Receivership persons yet haven't shared any Mooncoin-related info with our members),
then maybe it's a good idea to raise some funds for a private detective who could find him in China.

you can also propose something to the attorney directly at this time if the mooncoins are not being claimed

And if that is not to your satisfaction you can always appeal directly to the court.  I recommend doing one of the above at least asap.  Like now because this is happening now.
hero member
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What percentage of the total mooncoin supply is stuck on Cryptsy? If it's a big percentage it could explain why mooncoin has a low price. Big Vern tried is dumping any high value coins that were in Cryptsy and it's putting people off buying them. He's destroyed the value of numerous good coins.

About 70 billion (one third of available supply). We have no information regarding Big Vern's dumping them. Coins are still at top addresses.

If you know for sure that Big Vern does have a control on them (Cryptsy Receivership persons yet haven't shared any Mooncoin-related info with our members),
then maybe it's a good idea to raise some funds for a private detective who could find him in China.
hero member
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The links on page 505 are not wallets as there is no link to download any type of wallet, so once again can someone give me a legitimate link to download the mooncoin wallet for windows please.

thank you Huh

Try it with another browser, these are up to date wallets, compiled by an independent service, they work.
Or if you want to compile a wallet by yourself, there is a Mooncoin open source code at Github.
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Great, thank you,

Abiky, metamorphin, Bitbobb, polemarhos, killerjoegreece, burzuks, CryptoDatabase and other supporters, thank you for your votes!

If people want something to be done, e.g. a new thread, DigiShield etc. and yet you haven't shared your opinion here, please PM, especially people who run full Mooncoin nodes!
And people who have coins stuck at Cryptsy and who want to get Moonlite bonuses in future for their coins at Cryptsy, please PM, too.


What percentage of the total mooncoin supply is stuck on Cryptsy? If it's a big percentage it could explain why mooncoin has a low price. Big Vern tried is dumping any high value coins that were in Cryptsy and it's putting people off buying them. He's destroyed the value of numerous good coins.
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