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Topic: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 - page 11. (Read 1106906 times)

hero member
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We discussed that before: to give away moonlite bonuses to Bitcointalk users.

There is an idea to reward members of our community with moonlite  bonuses for their activity in the Mooncoin thread.
The script can count how many posts each user has published in the Mooncoin thread and calculate
proportionally the amount of bonuses that will be initially distributed (free of charge) amongst members of the Mooncoin community.
legendary
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far out.. i swear the world of cryptocurrency never stops, have only just loaded the sources up on github:

https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon
https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon-server

i posed this to Mooncoin_Foundation about a week ago; nothing like an early release Smiley
no binaries just yet - however if you're keen, obtain python 2.7.11 and a copy of git, at the command line run:

Code:
git clone https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon.git
cd electrum-moon
python electrum-moon

Thank you for making the Mooncoin lightweight wallet, great news!

We make Mooncoin great again !  Grin
legendary
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No risk, no fun!
Great work...but its not fair, that you always work with these old thread only for collecting pages!

It's pure poison, to let new interested ppl searching tons of pages to find the actual infos they need.

You're absolutely correct.
Many people have voted for a new Mooncoin thread.
It will be started in November-December, when the lightweight wallet and the ML platform are completed.

Perfect...let me know something about it, and I will promote of course the new ANN!

Greetz
Steve
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Great work...but its not fair, that you always work with these old thread only for collecting pages!

It's pure poison, to let new interested ppl searching tons of pages to find the actual infos they need.

You're absolutely correct.
Many people have voted for a new Mooncoin thread.
It will be started in November-December, when the lightweight wallet and the ML platform are completed.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Great work...but its not fair, that you always work with these old thread only for collecting pages!

It's pure poison, to let new interested ppl searching tons of pages to find the actual infos they need.

You have no control over the old crap of the ANN...you really dont know the power of a control over the ANN to change everything nonrelated!

Greetz
Steve
hero member
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far out.. i swear the world of cryptocurrency never stops, have only just loaded the sources up on github:

https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon
https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon-server

i posed this to Mooncoin_Foundation about a week ago; nothing like an early release Smiley
no binaries just yet - however if you're keen, obtain python 2.7.11 and a copy of git, at the command line run:

Code:
git clone https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon.git
cd electrum-moon
python electrum-moon

Thank you for making the Mooncoin lightweight wallet, great news!
hero member
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far out.. i swear the world of cryptocurrency never stops, have only just loaded the sources up on github:

https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon
https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon-server



i posed this to Mooncoin_Foundation about a week ago; nothing like an early release Smiley
no binaries just yet - however if you're keen, obtain python 2.7.11 and a copy of git, at the command line run:

Code:
git clone https://github.com/barrystyle/electrum-moon.git
cd electrum-moon
python electrum-moon
legendary
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https://cryptodatabase.net
Ah you misunderstood me, by 'those who don't know about private keys' I was referring to those that don't know they can transfer coins by importing the private keys into a new wallet. This was a big problem when the DOGE electrum wallet went offline, a lot of people didn't know how to retrieve their coins when it happened.

Have they retrieved them finally?

That's definitely a problem when people don't know how to import private keys,
on the other hand it's not so critical problem, as in case with Cryptsy for example.


The DOGE people were very helpful and created a lot of help documents after it became an issue that guided people on how to get their coins back.
hero member
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Ah you misunderstood me, by 'those who don't know about private keys' I was referring to those that don't know they can transfer coins by importing the private keys into a new wallet. This was a big problem when the DOGE electrum wallet went offline, a lot of people didn't know how to retrieve their coins when it happened.

Have they retrieved them finally?

That's definitely a problem when people don't know how to import private keys,
on the other hand it's not so critical problem, as in case with Cryptsy for example.
legendary
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An Electrum wallet would do wonders for MOON but whoever runs the server for it would have to be trustworthy beyond all doubt as they could shut the server down and those who don't know about private keys would have their coins stuck. Similar to the DOGE Electrum wallet that went under.

Do you know of any services which offer the Electrum service? Would be worth checking into.

The Electrum wallet 'needs a permanent place to live (serving the daemons/electrum instance doesnt mean the private keys are stored server side- security isnt an issue here); meaning it would need some contingency fund as an ongoing need (it also becomes a full mooncoin node)'.

What would happen if a server with a wallet was unavailable,
wallet is retained client-side - person would only be not able to access the funds until server is back up.

But users always can export their private keys from electrum and reimport to full wallet if need be (very simple process) - so definitely people will not have their coins stuck in that case.

Ah you misunderstood me, by 'those who don't know about private keys' I was referring to those that don't know they can transfer coins by importing the private keys into a new wallet. This was a big problem when the DOGE electrum wallet went offline, a lot of people didn't know how to retrieve their coins when it happened.
hero member
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An Electrum wallet would do wonders for MOON but whoever runs the server for it would have to be trustworthy beyond all doubt as they could shut the server down and those who don't know about private keys would have their coins stuck. Similar to the DOGE Electrum wallet that went under.

Do you know of any services which offer the Electrum service? Would be worth checking into.

The Electrum wallet 'needs a permanent place to live (serving the daemons/electrum instance doesnt mean the private keys are stored server side- security isnt an issue here); meaning it would need some contingency fund as an ongoing need (it also becomes a full mooncoin node)'.

What would happen if a server with a wallet was unavailable,
wallet is retained client-side - person would only be not able to access the funds until server is back up.

But users always can export their private keys from electrum and reimport to full wallet if need be (very simple process) - so definitely people will not have their coins stuck in that case.
legendary
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https://cryptodatabase.net
What about including a config file in the install or possibly just zipping up the wallet files and offering it instead that way it already contains the information they need including an almost up to date blockchain. Once the exe is ran they would have to copy the zipped file into their roaming moon folder and would be ready to go with little time to wait.

That's definitely possible and thank you for your suggestion. An installer could copy all necessary files into the 'Roaming' folder so people even would not have to do that manually.
However it will not solve other problems with the original wallet, which are the outdated codebase and virustotal.com warnings.

For example, Dogecoin's codebase has been 'caught' up to the latest 0.12-0.13 codebase while https://github.com/mooncoin-project/mooncoin is the old 0.8 series.
Probably warnings refer to the outdated codebase, as the last Dogecoin wallet doesn't have warnings
https://virustotal.com/en/url/d3a974b099e21e05c94043111808e4b72db8b1721fe58ffe33170c2c163656ad/analysis/1477526557/
while an old Doge wallet had a Bitcoin.Miner warning at virustotal.com: https://virustotal.com/en/file/1b7660cc9eb118fdfe62068bc4941c3c16658d50df7c93bb2518bd79c9f2f46a/analysis/1477470833/

Of course we can stay with an outdated original wallet - it works, yes, but many potential Mooncoin users will avoid using it due to reasons described above (and the fact of these 91 billion stuck at Cryptsy disclosured that many people didn't use the original wallet to withdraw coins even when withdrawals were allowed),

or we can go further, to invite more developers, to compile the wallet with no virus warnings, to make an Electrum MOON lightweight wallet, mobile wallets etc.


An Electrum wallet would do wonders for MOON but whoever runs the server for it would have to be trustworthy beyond all doubt as they could shut the server down and those who don't know about private keys would have their coins stuck. Similar to the DOGE Electrum wallet that went under.

Do you know of any services which offer the Electrum service? Would be worth checking into.
hero member
Activity: 1022
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Mooncoin at Bitcointalk
What about including a config file in the install or possibly just zipping up the wallet files and offering it instead that way it already contains the information they need including an almost up to date blockchain. Once the exe is ran they would have to copy the zipped file into their roaming moon folder and would be ready to go with little time to wait.

That's definitely possible and thank you for your suggestion. An installer could copy all necessary files into the 'Roaming' folder so people even would not have to do that manually.
However it will not solve other problems with the original wallet, which are the outdated codebase and virustotal.com warnings.

For example, Dogecoin's codebase has been 'caught' up to the latest 0.12-0.13 codebase while https://github.com/mooncoin-project/mooncoin is the old 0.8 series.
Probably warnings refer to the outdated codebase, as the last Dogecoin wallet doesn't have warnings
https://virustotal.com/en/url/d3a974b099e21e05c94043111808e4b72db8b1721fe58ffe33170c2c163656ad/analysis/1477526557/
while an old Doge wallet had a Bitcoin.Miner warning at virustotal.com: https://virustotal.com/en/file/1b7660cc9eb118fdfe62068bc4941c3c16658d50df7c93bb2518bd79c9f2f46a/analysis/1477470833/

Of course we can stay with an outdated original wallet - it works, yes, but many potential Mooncoin users will avoid using it due to reasons described above (and the fact of these 91 billion stuck at Cryptsy disclosured that many people didn't use the original wallet to withdraw coins even when withdrawals were allowed),

or we can go further, to invite more developers, to compile the wallet with no virus warnings, to make an Electrum MOON lightweight wallet, mobile wallets etc.
legendary
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https://cryptodatabase.net
I did not say you don't need to add nodes to make it work. What I said was that I "haven't had any problems with syncing or connecting to nodes" and I haven't.

As you can see in the screenshot below I haven't modified my mooncoin.conf file which contains the addnode info since Nov 20, 2014 which was when my old faucet website stopped communicating with my wallets and I tried to fix it.

http://prntscr.com/d4czjk

The nodes listed in my config are..
107.170.43.103
144.76.107.241
87.209.206.80
148.251.13.168


Thanks,
your mooncoin.conf file was last modified on November, 20, 2014, several months after an original dev had disappeared,
the 1.862.1 version which you use is a working version, but newbies have no idea how to add nodes, so they download the wallet, then whether check it with the VirusTotal.com and don't use, or just run it and see it's not syncing.

People often ask about the MOON wallet in the thread and sometimes it looks like an ideal Mooncoin wallet exists somewhere and all problems will be solved as soon as the wallet is found. 

Just to mention that: until you know what you are doing it's not recommended to have a mooncoin.conf file in your Mooncoin directory; in Dec, 2014 one person had reported he was hacked due to "server=1" in his mooncoin.conf file.
'RPC and Server=1 (and other related 'parameters') are not harmful when used properly. If an attacker happens to know the rpcuser/rpcpassword combination for a given wallet; in an environment where the logon credentials are re-used; he can potentially gain access to any of the wallets.'


What about including a config file in the install or possibly just zipping up the wallet files and offering it instead that way it already contains the information they need including an almost up to date blockchain. Once the exe is ran they would have to copy the zipped file into their roaming moon folder and would be ready to go with little time to wait.

None of the wallets I use now communicate with 3rd party servers in any way. In order for someone to gain access to any of my wallets they would need to first gain access to my computers which would be highly unlikely as all they are used for are hosting my wallets. Nothing is ever downloaded on them directly.

Payments from my various projects are all done manually. This ensures a minimum loss of coins and keeps the coins safer as only me and my wife have access to them.


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Our wallet version  :
    "version" : 9620100,
    "protocolversion" : 70001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" :****,
    "blocks" : 973450,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 8,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 9.47423704,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1476892562,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.01000000,
    "errors" : ""

Iv'e compiled the wallet myself.


Thank you, would you like to upload your Windows mooncoin-qt.exe file to sync.com or mega.nz to let people download it and compare with other Mooncoin compilations? Or could you please test it with VirusTotal.com and share results, does your wallet indicate false VirusTotal alarms of Bitcoin.Miner or not?


Edit: if you don't have the Windows wallet, it's not needed, as Mooncoin wallets, compiled for other platforms (Linux, Mac), don't indicate any alarms at VirusTotal.com.

hero member
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I did not say you don't need to add nodes to make it work. What I said was that I "haven't had any problems with syncing or connecting to nodes" and I haven't.

As you can see in the screenshot below I haven't modified my mooncoin.conf file which contains the addnode info since Nov 20, 2014 which was when my old faucet website stopped communicating with my wallets and I tried to fix it.

http://prntscr.com/d4czjk

The nodes listed in my config are..
107.170.43.103
144.76.107.241
87.209.206.80
148.251.13.168


Thanks,
your mooncoin.conf file was last modified on November, 20, 2014, several months after an original dev had disappeared,
the 1.862.1 version which you use is a working version, but newbies have no idea how to add nodes, so they download the wallet, then whether check it with the VirusTotal.com and don't use, or just run it and see it's not syncing.

People often ask about the MOON wallet in the thread and sometimes it looks like an ideal Mooncoin wallet exists somewhere and all problems will be solved as soon as the wallet is found. 

Just to mention that: until you know what you are doing it's not recommended to have a mooncoin.conf file in your Mooncoin directory; in Dec, 2014 one person had reported he was hacked due to "server=1" in his mooncoin.conf file.
'RPC and Server=1 (and other related 'parameters') are not harmful when used properly. If an attacker happens to know the rpcuser/rpcpassword combination for a given wallet; in an environment where the logon credentials are re-used; he can potentially gain access to any of the wallets.'
sr. member
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any utilities for mooncoin?

thanks
any utilities for mooncoin?

thanks

Our wallet version  :
    "version" : 9620100,
    "protocolversion" : 70001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" :****,
    "blocks" : 973450,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 8,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 9.47423704,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1476892562,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.01000000,
    "errors" : ""

Iv'e compiled the wallet myself.
legendary
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That link is no longer available, it was http://downloads.mooncoin.rocks/Mooncoin-1.862.1.7z

You can find copies of it here,
Website - https://chocolatey.org/packages/mooncoin/1.862.1

As for their authenticity I cannot vouch for that.

Original github, https://github.com/Mooncoin-project/Mooncoin

Could you please upload the wallet which you personally use  (and which doesn't need adding nodes manually to sync it, like you have said) and share the link with the community?

Edit: or you may want to share its checksums, you can get them by uploading your file to virustotal.com. If you use the original wallet 1.862.1 from mooncoin.info/mooncoin.rocks, its checksums are the same with checksums at https://web.archive.org/web/20140705185938/http://download.mooncoin.info
and at http://archive.is/C6dWU (for mooncoin.rocks)
which are 
CRC-32: 63f8b21c
   MD4: 5a0fb654c0f45a5584ebd727e1b8a7e5
   MD5: edc341b411f2e138850827cc13570ea1
 SHA-1: f04fc5dde039af945fd70386066fdb5a75464480
SHA256: 9004dc87e992e8f439ea138d20c2777bfec3e2bc5b1951564776c0828ef3c8d3
for the Windows wallet,
but this wallet doesn't synchronize until you add nodes manually,
that's why people had been asking for a working wallet since 2014 and finally walletbuilders.com compiled the 1.875.1 version (+ the more up to date codebase).


I did not say you don't need to add nodes to make it work. What I said was that I "haven't had any problems with syncing or connecting to nodes" and I haven't.

As you can see in the screenshot below I haven't modified my mooncoin.conf file which contains the addnode info since Nov 20, 2014 which was when my old faucet website stopped communicating with my wallets and I tried to fix it.

http://prntscr.com/d4czjk

The nodes listed in my config are..
107.170.43.103
144.76.107.241
87.209.206.80
148.251.13.168
hero member
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It's better that the receiver controls them than big vern. After the auction is over there will be no more fear of a massive dump. If big vern controlled them investors would never buy in because of the fear of him dumping.

Unfortunately I think the receiver will sell to the highest bid even if it's a ridiculously low price bid. I have not read anything about a reserve price being set yet.

'The fear of a massive dump' is the everlasting fear in the crypto world. Fear and Greed drive crowds, you know.
The reserve price is the lowest price the seller is prepared to accept for the property, but there is also the starting price. If they sold coins without setting an appropriate reserve price/starting price, that would be unfair. After all they are not interested in selling low, so probably they will set fair prices.
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New report mentioned Mooncoin: this address 2M5kiseCXp6X5g75ZcWeo3BNsMYJxtDCzq is under control of the Federal Court (8,421,008,915.000 MOON).

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/DE-78-Notice-of-Filing-Receivers-Third-Report-10-31-16.pdf


Interesting, now, based on this report and on October transactions, that's clear that people had at least 83B 91B at Cryptsy, pretty unexpected.
Probably people who were not able to compile by themselves didn't use the Mooncoin binaries due to VirusTotal.com alarms and kept all their coins at their Cryptsy balances.

Edit: Reminder: if you were a Cryptsy customer and you're owed money/coins, please register your details at http://cryptsyreceivership.com.
Unfortunately it looks like Mooncoins will not be returned to their owners, coins will be sold in an auction procedure according to the report (it's good that they will not be sold on exchanges), maybe it will make some promotion for MOON and companies which track these auctions will buy the Mooncoin auction item and will hold MOON over long term, let's hope the court will use fair methods to estimate the MOON price, not based on prices that are artificially dumped on small exchanges with small trading volume - and will not sell coins for less than 1 Satoshi each (~$0.000007 at the moment), anyway you will receive some money, if your claim is approved.

It's better that the receiver controls them than big vern. After the auction is over there will be no more fear of a massive dump. If big vern controlled them investors would never buy in because of the fear of him dumping.

Unfortunately I think the receiver will sell to the highest bid even if it's a ridiculously low price bid. I have not read anything about a reserve price being set yet.
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