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Topic: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! - page 80. (Read 278482 times)

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if the remine becomes invalid...how do we make sure there is a reserve to be distibuted to the lakota ppl....

Let this be completely clear 49er. If this coin dies, there be no benefit in having those premines. So, there's bigger concern here. Only reason to do that would be to get the coin out of the influence (or reduce it) which is not being used properly.
newbie
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if the remine becomes invalid...how do we make sure there is a reserve to be distibuted to the lakota ppl....
sr. member
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@cryptolemaik If you can reach out to Payu, try to convince him to better leave social media/server access to someone more dependable. Just looking at Twitter feed, it's obvious AP is controlling it. People support Payu and his cause. Let there be no doubt about it. But he needs to understand that recent development does not bore well for his cause at all. They have weakened it. If concerns about AP's involvement was raised earlier than Payu should pay more attention to this. After all, it's a crypto currency. A currency more suited for technical age. Even if he wants to champion the cause of having a separate currency, he's doing it by this channel and hence all the support so far. So yeah, implore him for these concerns.

In the interim, I would like to see if members and community here would be interested in proposal to move to a different blockchain.
newbie
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im just glad that 1000mzc is worth $1.50 it will help so many ppl....

wow each lokota indian will have 1.50 to spend.....

that will really turn there life around i know it...

legendary
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Mazacoin will feature two pages in the book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" the Beginner's Reference

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.new#new


Please donate to the below Mazacoin wallet address in order to help fund this project:

MPfQfxRycfaF43P95mj4i2r89vj2zW1aAK

It will have 2 pages similar to this:





If you spot any spelling or grammar errors, these are easily sorted.  I do have a full time job as well as trying to get this project completed too.
sr. member
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i just want to make sure the premine goes to the ppl it was intended for...


Yeah me too. But in its current form. This coin will just die and won't do any good for anyone.
newbie
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im in bitshares, protoshares, vtc, ltc, grc, flt, huc...

but the bulk of my btc i put in mzc....because i believed in the cause....

i dont expect any profit at all from mzc...

i just want to make sure the premine goes to the ppl it was intended for...

not dumped and hurting the investors and believers even more....

sr. member
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@cryptolemaik Currently this coin is trapped by whims of AP and complete neglect by Payu. If Payu wants to neglect it completely and do the work on the ground, he needs to free it from AP as well. Or let it go completely from his control. Better it controlled by noone than by AP. It can help immensely Lakotas by the publicity it has already got. People can donate to corresponding organizations. At the very least, it won't be used by some parasite to launch another coin.

@49er Need wider support for it. It's technically possible. Will require shifting the genesis block forward. But will require others to switch to new wallets once that change is done.

Would love to hear back all feedback/criticism for this approach.
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hey einstein i have been saying that all along....

cryptolemaik you are a trip man....

stop acting like you care about the lakota ppl or the canadians...

your a dumper last time i checked......


i agree take what ever actions need to control the premine...

we can always donate it to a nonprofit for the lokota ppl....

i already lost all my btc in mzc...

i dont expect a profit...i just want what this coin was built for and that was to help the lokota ppl

sr. member
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Stop fighting. Let's not forget real power of a decentralized currency is that noone should be able to dictate and control it. Proposing solution of invalidating the premined addresses and taking over this project with keeping its real purpose.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528288.40

Will be needing help from senior members and miners. We either do this or keep looking at Payu (who's silent) or AP (who's shady)
newbie
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im just here to let you rant and rave....

please tell me more about yourself...

lets see your a dumper...
brown noser....
keyboard warrior....

did i miss anything else?

just stop okay....you look like a real asshole....just let it rest... and dont pm me anymore plz...
newbie
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good night dumper..... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

keep kissing the devs ass... Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss

good luck with your maplecoin Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

just burns doesnt it?HuhHuh? Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
newbie
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i still cant figure out why you have always attacked me....

and you still do calling me names...

grow up and grow a pair keyboard warrior....

i never threatened anyone.....

im done wasting time with you....

good luck with your maplecoin okay...

and keep doubling down on maza...

and stop shifting 100% blame onto payu it shows who you are protecting...

good night twinkle toes...

PS i remember the pm you sent me to not talk bad about devs cuz we would scare away new buyers...

i guess greed is what your really all about...not all the lokata ppl and investors that got burned....
sr. member
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why so passionate ?...why so protective?...what threats?...

whats wrong?...


good luck with ...  maplecoin cryptolemaik......

you have issues man...calm down...seeing shadows?...

say hello to boxxa and anonpirate....

stop talking to yourself....

and dont try to shift all blame on payu he might have gotten suckered....



No. You have issues. Stop diverting the thread's attention to your childishness. No one is interested in harming anyone.
newbie
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why so passionate ?...why so protective?...what threats?...

whats wrong?...


good luck with ...  maplecoin cryptolemaik......

you have issues man...calm down...seeing shadows?...

say hello to boxxa and anonpirate....

stop talking to yourself....

and dont try to shift all blame on payu he might have gotten suckered....

sr. member
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please do take seriously...

hell you might be anonpirate...

sleep tight twinkie....

good luck with all the maplecoin your holding ..cryptomaik...



Lol I mined for ~4 hours on launch and controlled over 25% of all mined coins during that entire period. I don't care if it never goes anywhere, I lost 4 hours of electricity - which is some of the cheapest in the world, by the way. If it hits *any* exchange, and gets any trading action, it was a great move. I'm not on their team at all, I was just an MZC advocate and got burned in the end - but you're saying truly stupid shit. So again, if you'd like the threats of doxxing and implied harm to be taken seriously, I'll happily inform the guy who profited off of our bags that some asshole actually wants to hurt him over his own poor investment choices.

Boxxa does not control the Maza premine. Payu does, and Payu posted information specifically addressing this movement of coins last week. What you're mad about is being a bag holder, which is really understandable - but you know, it's your bad man. You invested, and you held, and you lost - and right now there's no regulator to call on hand. So I undertand, I really do, and I lost a bit on Maza in the end for the same exact reasons, despite fiercely averaging down and even somehow managing to be profitable for quite some time, my faith could not outrun the loss of market confidence - and perhaps most importantly, my own greed! So I too have lost now. So, I'm with you - but I'm not. Cause it's our bad, bro. We fucked ourselves, backed the wrong pony. I still think Maza has a chance, if Payu is true to his word - but it's not gonna be this week, this month, or this year. Maybe in a few if he really keeps at it.


But stop saying stupid shit. Yes Boxxa/AP profited from this bullshit, I'm sure, but they didn't defraud anyone - did they? I mean, really? If anything Payu is the guy who allowed misrepresentations about the "official" status to be spread without paperwork to back it up. Not Boxxa/AP.


Spot on.  I think this is all that needs to be said at this point.


Gah.  Seems like just yesterday we were at 7k, huh fellas? o.0

Hindsight is a b*tch.
newbie
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please do take seriously...

hell you might be anonpirate...

sleep tight twinkie....

good luck with all the maplecoin your holding ..cryptomaik...
newbie
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scroll down and look at all the 1mzc and 2mzc buy orders trying to prop this coin up....

too many ppl pissed off right now...hundred of thousands of really upset ppl...

its only a matter of time .... before we find out who they are...
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Just look some thing on Blockchain, and looks like not a good news, any one confirm this rumor?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5867412

Hope this is just a rumor! otherwise, really sadness.

I don't think the OP of that thread understands the issue.  Payu already stated he hired someone to both design the coin and create the website on his behalf.  That person who designed the coin already admitted he created Maple coin as well, as a personal project.  Maple has nothing to do with Payu, he just subcontracted this guy to design the coin and website (hence why the site is basically the same template).


However.  My real concern would be the premine now.  If that is really the premine with a lot of movement, then it's game over for this coin.


It's already been discovered that the creator of Aphrodite coin has been dabbing into the premine shares as well.

Bottom line is...it is tough to trust these individuals when you have 0 control over half of the coins in circulation.  You have to put an unbelievable amount of blind trust in them.

The sites are being hosted on the same server. Twitter accounts of both Maza and Maple coins seems to be under control of same person/team. This is not as simple as hiring someone for design. AnonymousPirate created both the coins and is on the founding team for Maza (mentioned on the website). Has Github access and commit history. Seems like another scam exposed.


How is this any new information?  As was said before, anonpirate created both the coins and the websites.  Obviously he is hosting both websites as well.  I just don't see how any of this is groundbreaking or new information?  We all know Payu is just the face of the coin and does the footwork on promotion.  Hosting/dev/troubleshooting/twitter/etc. is all anonpirate.  Heck, anonpirate even replied to me via twitter stating that payu doesn't handle the @mazacoin twitter because he's so busy.  


Now, unless you have some concrete foolproof evidence that Payu is in anyway afiliated with the creation of Maplecoin as well, then we have a problem.  But anonpirate himself said he created maple coin on his own, and payu has nothing to do with it.  It's just a side project pirate wanted to do on his own.  Personally, I wouldn't touch it...but he has every right to create his own crypto, just as anyone else does.

No, I have no such proof. And I am also looking for answers and trying to connect the dots. If AnonymousPirate is hired by Payu for help in Mazacoin and is now using the infra created for it to promote Maple, then he has definitely overstepped the limits.

Let's assume Payu even entrusted him with website. So, this one guy is the coin creator, spec decider, website creator, wallet modifier, sys admin, twitter controller. And then he uses all that to create another coin. Host the infra of that to the other coin. Come on. How much leeway you want give here?


Let me put it to you this way.  If you hire a web designer for their services.  And they follow through with their promised work and develop your website for you.

Do you honestly expect to have control over what they do in their spare time?  As a customer of their services, do you have the right to tell them they can't do other side projects on their own or create websites for other customers?

Of course not.  This guy does his job.  Create coins, create wallets, and creates websites.  Most likely for numerous people.

I agree, it's not in the best taste that the dev did that, but Payu has no power to tell him what he can or can't do on his own.

I'd be interesting in knowing their identities as well.  But that will probably never happen.  Who knows, it could all just be payu aliases, or they could all very well just be seperate individuals.  My best guess is payu and anonpirate are not the same people, because pirate has indeed been busy creating the coin/website/twitter and handling all the responsibilities.  I just don't see payu having that much free time to do all that himself since he's been on the road so much, which is verifiable through the youtube videos and interviews.
Its a youtube video made by "bitcoin girl" , she has been in youtube for 4 weeks i dont beleive that it is a trusted source.
sr. member
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Just look some thing on Blockchain, and looks like not a good news, any one confirm this rumor?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5867412

Hope this is just a rumor! otherwise, really sadness.

I don't think the OP of that thread understands the issue.  Payu already stated he hired someone to both design the coin and create the website on his behalf.  That person who designed the coin already admitted he created Maple coin as well, as a personal project.  Maple has nothing to do with Payu, he just subcontracted this guy to design the coin and website (hence why the site is basically the same template).


However.  My real concern would be the premine now.  If that is really the premine with a lot of movement, then it's game over for this coin.


It's already been discovered that the creator of Aphrodite coin has been dabbing into the premine shares as well.

Bottom line is...it is tough to trust these individuals when you have 0 control over half of the coins in circulation.  You have to put an unbelievable amount of blind trust in them.

The sites are being hosted on the same server. Twitter accounts of both Maza and Maple coins seems to be under control of same person/team. This is not as simple as hiring someone for design. AnonymousPirate created both the coins and is on the founding team for Maza (mentioned on the website). Has Github access and commit history. Seems like another scam exposed.


How is this any new information?  As was said before, anonpirate created both the coins and the websites.  Obviously he is hosting both websites as well.  I just don't see how any of this is groundbreaking or new information?  We all know Payu is just the face of the coin and does the footwork on promotion.  Hosting/dev/troubleshooting/twitter/etc. is all anonpirate.  Heck, anonpirate even replied to me via twitter stating that payu doesn't handle the @mazacoin twitter because he's so busy.  


Now, unless you have some concrete foolproof evidence that Payu is in anyway afiliated with the creation of Maplecoin as well, then we have a problem.  But anonpirate himself said he created maple coin on his own, and payu has nothing to do with it.  It's just a side project pirate wanted to do on his own.  Personally, I wouldn't touch it...but he has every right to create his own crypto, just as anyone else does.

No, I have no such proof. And I am also looking for answers and trying to connect the dots. If AnonymousPirate is hired by Payu for help in Mazacoin and is now using the infra created for it to promote Maple, then he has definitely overstepped the limits.

Let's assume Payu even entrusted him with website. So, this one guy is the coin creator, spec decider, website creator, wallet modifier, sys admin, twitter controller. And then he uses all that to create another coin. Host the infra of that to the other coin. Come on. How much leeway you want give here?


Let me put it to you this way.  If you hire a web designer for their services.  And they follow through with their promised work and develop your website for you.

Do you honestly expect to have control over what they do in their spare time?  As a customer of their services, do you have the right to tell them they can't do other side projects on their own or create websites for other customers?

Of course not.  This guy does his job.  Create coins, create wallets, and creates websites.  Most likely for numerous people.

I agree, it's not in the best taste that the dev did that, but Payu has no power to tell him what he can or can't do on his own.

I'd be interesting in knowing their identities as well.  But that will probably never happen.  Who knows, it could all just be payu aliases, or they could all very well just be seperate individuals.  My best guess is payu and anonpirate are not the same people, because pirate has indeed been busy creating the coin/website/twitter and handling all the responsibilities.  I just don't see payu having that much free time to do all that himself since he's been on the road so much, which is verifiable through the youtube videos and interviews.
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