Topic: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - Celebrating DNotes 3rd Birthday - Forum Now Open - page 256. (Read 814542 times)

Hi Everyone,

Just showing up to say hello to everyone. You may not be seeing me here as often or can expect the prompt response to every post. That is how companies on the fast track grow. By strategic choice, DNotes flew under the radar for the most part of last year. We are now on the fast track. Once we felt certain that we had established a solid foundation with the most critical portions of our own ecosystem, we started a sustained PR campaign to promote awareness of all our projects. It is already beginning to payoff. Be watchful for a number of write-ups to be published in the coming weeks.

This momentum will intensify. I am also drafting a press release announcing Smokeys Daylily Gardens as the first Merchant accepting DNotes as payment. As you may know, Smokeys Daylily Gardens is one of the largest Daylily Growers in the world. http://smokeysdaylilygardens.com/viewcart.php  We are treating this as our first pilot. The big push for DNotes to be accepted as payment by merchants will kick off at the beginning of 2016. Every move we make is strategic and will only take place at the most opportune time. That is just another DNotes difference and we are sticking to it.

Chicago as the "Epicenter of Digital Currency and Blockchain Technology" is still on. I was up way passed mid-night building some solid connections through LinkedIn. The responses I have been getting are impressive. We are getting known and becoming well respected. Keep up the good work and thanks for all your support.
 

Oh great but I saw the giveaway thread closed, I couldn't put my twitter there:) How can I enter it otherwise if it's still on? So cool it's not finished..

It's still running for a few more hours Thank you!

"this christmas i do a p2p giveaway in family and friends"

I favour direct approaches to people in our environments: family, friends, work colleagues, local merchants. Then you work to create 'micro-volume' by buying and selling Dnotes for fiat as people require.

And introducing Dnotes to Greece? Yes -- but ask me about the politics of such undertakings. There are some very important distinctions to understand.

Mark

I rewteeted all at @ goldentags even though contest is closed for me. I am a great fan of DNOTES FROM DAY 1..

Thank you devlin85, I will add it to our lists.

p2pool info on my github -> https://github.com/devlin85/p2pool

I know you are a sane group to work with because of the fact that you are thinking long-term and in the future. That is very sane thinking to me.

Cosmic HQ is very much in agreement in causing a cultural change and knows very well that a means to cause that change is by digital currencies being integrated into societies interfaces and causing a radical change in the way banking systems are perceived and thought about and CRISP and DNOTES is doing just that.

This is just my personal opinion and there are many approaches that will be successful. We are a rare group in a world of instant gratification. Look at the qualities of the people you see here regularly. Tenacious hard working visionaries, is the best way I can describe it. Many of these people are not easily impressed, to win them over we need to share with them the DNotes vision in it's entirety. Today to get that kind of information you would have to look very carefully, maybe even read the entire forum. So, my suggestion would be to recruit people individually who you think share these qualities and values and spend the time to get them interested.

Thanks, Cosmic HQ. That is excellent. DNotes has very different business models and philosophies. We are very strategic with every move and do not seek short-term gain for publicity or instant gratification. It is well reflected throughout this forum that we do not make commitments we cannot deliver. Our industry does not need any more false starts. What we need is a cultural change. From one that has been brutally destructive and hostile to one that fosters mutual respect and cooperation for mutual benefits.

It has been becoming very apparent that the damages and cost to our industry has been high and keep pilling up. Personally, I have never been as challenged to give it all I got to help this industry to rebuild its image. We have specifically avoid seeking Venture Capital funding during the formative stage so that we can pursue  to do what is right as opposed to what would maximize our financial gains. Large scale funding will come in place later when the most critical parts of our ecosystem are solidly in place, projected to be as early as the beginning of next year. Until we all have earned the trust and respect, too few will take us seriously and mass acceptance of digital currency will not happen for a long time.

We will diligently seek to develop a close relationship with a small group who share our visions, leading to partnering with a few to jointly push forward to achieve our common missions in building a better world. Stay for a lot more to come.

Hey Dyna. I got it. I will keep participating in the forums to see what is going on with this and so you know Cosmic HQ is here to help you.

Thanks infovortice,

Yes, CRISP for students is a great platform to use to get people to register easily for some DNotes. If they aren't a student, I find giving away my own works pretty well. I normally give away a substantial amount, but this will have to decrease because DNotes is no longer that 'new', they are worth more now, and I think brand awareness is growing.

I think to most worthwhile supporters that we want to attract, it will probably much less about the 'money' and more about the idea. Many people out there share the sentiment that the banks are ripping them off, charging exorbitant fees and not providing the value consumers demand and could get from Digital Currency.

I found your last point to offer crypto to banksters quite funny, I offer crypto to every banker I meet (the last time was on my / cryptomoms birthday, I gave HIM a good gift!). I have another banker friend who I keep informed about how great Digital Currencies are. We are great friends but we always joke about how we are enemies, and how I'm trying to permanently put him out of work. He unsuccessfully made many generous offers to protect his future and 'turn me to the dark side' of the banking world. He actually purchased his first lump sum of DNotes a month ago. I was daring enough to ask him about Digital Currency financial services when I was flirting with the idea of a small exchange in NZ a while ago where people could buy DNotes with credit cards... but that's a big no no - the banks are going to squeeze us out of the market he reckons. He has yet to come on side fully, but still, he bought (rather than accepted) some DNotes .

Anybody can be convinced if they give you enough time and respect. These will be the people who do well, the others will rue their mistake of not trying to understand a new idea.

jump in ! thanks for tweetgiveaway psybits !

What do people here think the best way to encourage forum participation is? What types of people would be interested in crypto and the problems that DNotes is providing solutions to?

i think the best way to atrack people to forum, is by giveaways in social media, making meetings, ect... videos on you tube, making congress in high schools

but really i spread the word but people not belive .... if you give some coins hey i give a try but two weeks later not remind nothing or worry about nothing related.

this christmas i do a p2p giveaway in family and friends... more than half loose coins.... and no one use it. ( i do give away in doge coins to use in games etc..)

before pass this two options i think must spread in people more time but..

also can atract to dnotes proffesional inversion agencies

can offer to banksters not are all the same. or can go directly to workers inside the bank

Just wanted to remind everyone there are 4 chances to win 2000 DNotes just for RTing a tweet: http://altcointalk.org/index.php/topic,264.0.html

Winner will be announced within 24 hours so there is not long to go now!

Thank you very much for posting Wiser, I'm very pleased to get such a substantiated, and well communicated response - a shared experience many here will know from other threads. I have what I believe are pretty good theories as to why crypto is very 'white-male dominated', but those theories go beyond the scope of DNotes core mission and control. If you wanted a hint - think of ways in which 'libertarian' +/or 'white-males' would feel 'victimized' enough by Government / society that would create incentive to adopt Digital Currencies en masse.

Lots of the movers and shakers in the "community" are primarily people who are very good with computers but who maybe lack social skills and graces. Some of those people (I'm sure with the best of intentions) can make you feel like an idiot for asking a basic question or not understanding a concept that seems obvious to them...   ...And even if you don't run afoul of anyone there are a lot of assumptions people make about you just because you're here--i.e., that you're a white male computer geek with a libertarian bent.

I have in the past, wasted much time and effort in political circles on various social media to communicate the value of ideas for moral philosophy with others. To me, there were a set of 'first principles' that may not be voided (otherwise, they aren't principles!). I won't go into what these principles are, but applying logic to first principles tends to lead to a select few moral conclusions. I've painfully watched many friends with  similar views attack others with vitriol, because they felt that opposition to their beliefs was 'evil'. I shared their frustration sometimes - you get called nasty names, and nobody seems to want to discuss the logic behind the issue - It's truly embarrassing that so many people in politics can not communicate effectively with those they disagree with. I find political environments to be the most toxic of all, and now steer clear and focus on more productive things. Socratic methods of getting a listener to accept logical propositions one by one is near impossible on the internet. Because it is true that people with anarcho-libertarian tendencies got the ball moving with crypto, I have sympathy for victims of the squabbling nature that people with such estranged views often bring with them. They are battle hardened from permanent disagreement with those around them, and their patience has long diminished for people they think 'don't get it'. That said, this is no excuse, and they are doing much harm to an industry they had a big part in creating.

Participating demographics are slowly changing with Digital Currencies now. Your point about the technology meaning nobody needs to care or know who the other transacting party is, or what their views were was excellent. I personally don't think any coin could truly achieve mass adoption without a core community that supports, grows, helps develop and advertises said coin. I think that any Digital Currency that rises to the top, will require more than just a really good development team to get there. A development team with a strong community will have a much larger pool of expertise to draw on than by themselves. Crypto is a commodity / transactional medium that requires people to use it. That means a community is required to market to and teach one another the benefits and it's uses. Without a good community, I don't think any amount of money used to advertise a crypto could get the level of adoption required to really challenge the big players in global payments. A strong community can.

As a thought experiment, think of a couple of years ago when Sony and Microsoft released their Playstation 4 and Xbox One consoles in the same month. Now many people prefer one console over the other for whatever reason, whether it be brand loyalty, technical specs, features / whatever - the most important thing people care about is which console the other people in their friends network are going to buy. If all your friends bought a Playstation 4, and you were the only one who bought an Xbox One... well, all your friends will having fun playing online together on the Playstation gaming network, and you'll be playing with random people on your Xbox, wishing you had purchased a Playstation 4 too. I don't think Digital Currency is any different; the ability to grow fast will ultimately come down to the size and quality of the community; the larger it gets, the more people will randomly tell their friends 'I paid 10 DNotes for it' (free marketing), the more people will accept and use it as a medium to transfer value, and finally, the more people will want to be involved. This is the best way to allow allocative efficiency given limited resources. Developing and marketing a Digital Currency will cost a fortune, especially if you plan to challenge global payment processors. A strong community means the development team can focus on 'technical' aspects of the currency later once the community is self-perpetuating continued growth. This approach is less risky than exerting much effort and finances for technical work before you have an active community and stakeholders (what if nobody uses your coin?).

XC, DRK, Monero and many others created 'anonymous send' capability around the same time, they also achieved it using slightly different methods. Given that fact, technical superiority doesn't guarantee success when rivals are committing resources to achieve the same end. Short term price pumps by short-term traders that knew technology equated to higher prices did most of the marketing on their behalf. That is why after the traders dumped, XC, DRK and XMR are not worth anywhere near what they were today. Technical coins get replaced by newer and better technical coins all the time. There is no use holding onto 'tech' currencies long term, I've yet to see one's price sustain after the initial trading hype. I personally don't see much in the way of reason that a technically advanced currency can attract much more than any other currency than the impatient computer literate members you described, and the speculative traders who follow them. Everyday crypto users will be quite content with a basic blockchain that is updated in line with the latest *useful* innovations.

I think, that DNotes community is the strongest asset it has. Everybody here selflessly contributes, offers and lets one another know the great things they are doing to help DNotes programs, I mean RJF had his daughter put posters up around the university she works to help the CRISP for Students program! Cryptobroker put up 30 flyers at his local uni, and privately messaged me about it (here is your public thanks). These are but a few contributions I've seen recently.

At this point I'll ask that under the presumption that community growth is of paramount importance - What do people here think the best way to encourage forum participation is? What types of people would be interested in crypto and the problems that DNotes is providing solutions to?

Hi, Cosmic HQ. Thanks for introducing Cosmic HQ to our community. Your web site looks like it has a noble mission to improve the life of others. That is a good thing.

Despite my very busy schedule, I had already visited your site three times but did not see an immediate project our group is in the position to participate at this time. DNotes is a very conservative community that follows a very different and strict strategic path based on our own time schedule. We are nimble and work with limited resources to get a lot done through a great deal of hard work and volunteer time. At this stage, this is not a group that has the money or time to spare. Everything that the DNotes team and its community have accomplished is the result of hard work and limited self funding.

If you have any specific project proposals that your groups are prepared to fund and support we will be happy to give them serious consideration. WE like to thank you for bringing Cosmic HQ to our attention and we wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

'Noo-Era Movement'? http://www.reddit.com/r/DogecoinAU/comments/33jgw8/nooera_movement_your_opinions_please

I put it up in a quiet corner to judge reactions. Dnotes is referenced.

As odd as it may seem from Palmer's statement, the Doge-sphere (at least Reddit) remains in the top half dozen Really Quite Normal People sites in the crypto realm. A few are appalling.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

I see since I checked in the last time another CRISP kid Student signed up.  Making headway and getting the word out.

Don't you think also that perhaps part of the problem is that it has been understood that most of the crypto world has been youngsters who want to make a quick buck. They are the ones with little patience because it seems they want what they want and they want it now.  They cannot see two feet down the road let alone years down the road. The people behind DNotes are not looking at the now, they are looking at the future of what is to be and with the systems which have been put in place and where they are leading to makes me understand to jump on board with DNotes as it has been steady as she goes.   Keep up the good work and keep pushing forward to achieve the end goals of a currency with a plan and a future.