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Did you see my new thread? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/todays-the-day-54134
legendary
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Truthfully, I would loved to be proven wrong and have everything I done stuck up my ass. If that be the case, I'll spread my cheeks for entry.

Thank you for that lovely mental image. Let me get the eye soap.

Sorry about that, boonies4u. I guess a tad to colorful, but was driving a point home (damn, that doesn't read nice either).
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[Announce] SimpleCoin.com - Buying Bitcoins Became Simple Today

Note: I don't know how it was simple before us, but I'm pretty sure DialCoin made buying bitcoins even simpler than Simplecoin, and it was released beforehand. Might want to pick a more accurate slogan.

Buying Bitcoins Became Simple In America Today

That works. ^_^

P.S. We're announcing 20 more countries including the US on the bittalk.tv Christmas Special!
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[Announce] SimpleCoin.com - Buying Bitcoins Became Simple Today

Note: I don't know how it was simple before us, but I'm pretty sure DialCoin made buying bitcoins even simpler than Simplecoin, and it was released beforehand. Might want to pick a more accurate slogan.

Buying Bitcoins Became Simple In America Today
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[Announce] SimpleCoin.com - Buying Bitcoins Became Simple Today

Note: I don't know how it was simple before us, but I'm pretty sure DialCoin made buying bitcoins even simpler than Simplecoin, and it was released beforehand. Might want to pick a more accurate slogan.
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Truthfully, I would loved to be proven wrong and have everything I done stuck up my ass. If that be the case, I'll spread my cheeks for entry.

Thank you for that lovely mental image. Let me get the eye soap.
legendary
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Darin,

One final note on this subject.  By some luck of the cosmos you drew Phinnaeus instead of Matthew to your thread.  If you want to see just how lucky you are you can check out this thread where Matthew tries to help out Mr. Coins:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.628476


1) I'm in America at the moment and haven't followed the forums.

2) Now that I'm here, I don't see any fraud. He hasn't made insane claims like Mr Coins ("You can do A or B" even though A and B have already been proven to not work) or Leo Camillo ("I am a millionaire, but can I have $20 for this domain because I can't afford it").

It is important for the OP to know that any business accepting credit cards where the product is delivered instantly will suffer from fraudulent transactions-- it's common knowledge.

It's also important for potential customers to pay attention to the payment gateway used at any website to make sure the OP cannot just write down their credit card address and use it on another bitcoin site and claim they were hacked.

Happy Holidays.

Glad to read you're back, Matthew. I can't believe you got pass the TSA, though.

I have no qualms with the actual website, simplecoin.com. But I may have a concern with its owner, hence my posts on this thread. I'm only looking out for my fellow Bitcoiners in regards to all this.

Truthfully, I would loved to be proven wrong and have everything I done stuck up my ass. If that be the case, I'll spread my cheeks for entry.
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Darin,

One final note on this subject.  By some luck of the cosmos you drew Phinnaeus instead of Matthew to your thread.  If you want to see just how lucky you are you can check out this thread where Matthew tries to help out Mr. Coins:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.628476



1) I'm in America at the moment and haven't followed the forums.

2) Now that I'm here, I don't see any fraud. He hasn't made insane claims like Mr Coins ("You can do A or B" even though A and B have already been proven to not work) or Leo Camillo ("I am a millionaire, but can I have $20 for this domain because I can't afford it").

It is important for the OP to know that any business accepting credit cards where the product is delivered instantly will suffer from fraudulent transactions-- it's common knowledge.

It's also important for potential customers to pay attention to the payment gateway used at any website to make sure the OP cannot just write down their credit card address and use it on another bitcoin site and claim they were hacked.

Happy Holidays.
legendary
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My reply was meant to be humoristic. As you know now, my first language is not english so I may sound off sometimes...

Arfeniel, I believe you didn't take the time to read everything I wrote that was in reference to you.

For my defense, you do write quite long posts  Wink

My comment was an aside comment of which I penned directly after typing 11-20-2011 after noticing that it reads backward and forward, the same.

How did I miss that  Smiley

Accept my apology if I'm wrong, arfeniel.

I don't think one was due but be sure it is accepted. I did expect someone to be alerted by my post. I did post it 5 min after the thread was started...

I still didn't get the command of the English language. Care to elaborate? I swear I won't take it personnaly  Grin

Cheers!
Arfeniel

It was a snide remark toward you, from me, stating that your English sucks. What's now sad about me posting that prior, and now having to say it again, is that I totally forgot that many members here have English as their second language. I wrongfully assumed that English was your main, and only language, hence pointing out consistently bad grammar. I, and most of us, make mistakes in writing every now and than, but a series of bad writing in one post, sticks out like a sore thumb. It sometimes resembles a kid's writing.

I hope that clarifies of what you've asked. Also, thank you for understanding my post and accepting my apology. Welcome aboard. BTW, I'm not really a bad guy. It's just that when I sense something not right, I've learned to share it with others, opposed to just saying to myself, "Oh, Well!"

Thank you again, arfeniel.

Bruno
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My reply was meant to be humoristic. As you know now, my first language is not english so I may sound off sometimes...

Arfeniel, I believe you didn't take the time to read everything I wrote that was in reference to you.

For my defense, you do write quite long posts  Wink

My comment was an aside comment of which I penned directly after typing 11-20-2011 after noticing that it reads backward and forward, the same.

How did I miss that  Smiley

Accept my apology if I'm wrong, arfeniel.

I don't think one was due but be sure it is accepted. I did expect someone to be alerted by my post. I did post it 5 min after the thread was started...

I still didn't get the command of the English language. Care to elaborate? I swear I won't take it personnaly  Grin

Cheers!
Arfeniel
legendary
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So I received this email while I was at work today :

Not only do I want him to pick my lottery numbers (that's another effin' lie, for I don't play the lottery) [...]

but if I was Phinnaeus Gage, I would not want me to pick lottery numbers for sure.

About the 11-20-2011, what should I be looking for on Google? Is it the Dilbert commic strip (http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-11-20/)?

Ok, so back on track. I'm not simplecoin nor am I related to him. I commented of a nice website and what looks like a easy to use service. Was I wrong? Also, I did not, and will not anytime soon, buy Bitcoin through is website. Heck, I have a btc-e account and never transfer any currency in it. Same thing with my Paxum account. I'm interested in Bitcoin. I want to see it grow and conquer the heart of those who are sick of the current banking system and his fees. I run the client 24/7 to support the network even though I don't have any Bitcoin (well, only 0.05611137 BTC coming from my hard working 1.03 khash/sec miner).

Btw, what do you mean by :
[...] but I want him to pen my biography for, he too, has a command of the English language.

Not quite sure to understand. After all, I am french canadian, eh!

Until the next thrilling saga,
Arfeniel

Well, this is a strange way for Darin to handle the controversy. I feel that following up with comments on his thread would better serve him than that email approach. But, then again, this could be the followup.

Arfeniel, I believe you didn't take the time to read everything I wrote that was in reference to you. If you had, your post would have read differently. For starters, the 11-20-2011 reference, of which I made, has absolutely nothing to do with you or Darin or SimpleCoin. My comment was an aside comment of which I penned directly after typing 11-20-2011 after noticing that it reads backward and forward, the same. My comment 'note to self: Google that number' was a snide reference toward myself, and meant as humor, at my expense, for those who have firsthand knowledge of my Googling skills, or lack thereof. I, being human, have made mistakes in the past, and will continue to make them in the future but, hopefully, will keep them to a bare minimum. That said I've, not once, but twice, have distanced you from this episode. You're not part of a conspiracy. or scam. or fud. Like I've stated twice before, it was the oddness of your post that caused a red flag to be raised in my eyes. Nothing more. You're out of the equation. Anybody here, after reading only the OP and your post, would have come to the same conclusion, although I'm somewhat surprised that I'm the only one, to date. I've done no research on you what-so-ever, with the exception of https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/arfeniel-46434.

After saying all that, I'm now leaning another way after reading your latest post. I'm surprise it has the same defensive tone that Darin has. I'm just saying, for I'm not entirely convinced that an alpaca sock is not in play here. But the hell with all that. Accept my apology if I'm wrong, arfeniel. You're not the key issue here, what-so-ever.

Now, for my dilemma. Although I've yet to post a single direct link, should I do so here, on this thread, or start a new one?

For a person who doesn't have a damn thing to hide, sure the hell's been doing a lot of hiding, of late.

And look at the email I received the other day:

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You have just been sent a personal message by simplecoins on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Bruno, take a look at this and let me know what you think. To me, it doesn't pass the smell test: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announce-simplecoincom-buying-bitcoins-became-simple-today-53803

(I only deleted the name of the person who sent this to me and was located here)

Reply to this Personal Message here:

So, as you can now see, there was a prior red flag before I raised my red flag, and only did so after reading the first two posts.

With that, again, where should I post the first link? Here or a new thread? If a new thread, any suggestions of what I should title it? BTW, these questions are not directed toward you, arfeniel, although this post was originally meant only as a reply to you, but it veered off course.
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So I received this email while I was at work today :

Not only do I want him to pick my lottery numbers (that's another effin' lie, for I don't play the lottery) [...]

but if I was Phinnaeus Gage, I would not want me to pick lottery numbers for sure.

About the 11-20-2011, what should I be looking for on Google? Is it the Dilbert commic strip (http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-11-20/)?

Ok, so back on track. I'm not simplecoin nor am I related to him. I commented of a nice website and what looks like a easy to use service. Was I wrong? Also, I did not, and will not anytime soon, buy Bitcoin through is website. Heck, I have a btc-e account and never transfer any currency in it. Same thing with my Paxum account. I'm interested in Bitcoin. I want to see it grow and conquer the heart of those who are sick of the current banking system and his fees. I run the client 24/7 to support the network even though I don't have any Bitcoin (well, only 0.05611137 BTC coming from my hard working 1.03 khash/sec miner).

Btw, what do you mean by :
[...] but I want him to pen my biography for, he too, has a command of the English language.

Not quite sure to understand. After all, I am french canadian, eh!

Until the next thrilling saga,
Arfeniel
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Darin,

One final note on this subject.  By some luck of the cosmos you drew Phinnaeus instead of Matthew to your thread.  If you want to see just how lucky you are you can check out this thread where Matthew tries to help out Mr. Coins:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.628476
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Darin,

All we can see for a fact is that you have 21 posts.  We have no idea how long you have been reading, how much you have read, which threads you have read, or how long you have been around so please let me fill you in on a few things:

Because of the non revertible nature of Bitcoins it is much easier to scam people out of their BTC than it is to scam them using VISA, PayPal, etc.
Because of this fact criminals of all kinds flock to Bitcoins.
These criminals have come up with many ways to scam people, some obvious, some very subtle.
Many have fallen prey to these criminals over the years.
This leads to a very high level of paranoia in your customer base.
This is something you have to deal with as a vendor in the Bitcoin space.

Have you ever heard about certain tribes, when faced with the issue of trying to find out which member(s) of their tribe is lying, will place a red hot knife on the tongue of each member of the tribe?  The members that are not lying will not get burned, however those caught in a lie get their tongue burned.

This whole vetting process you are going through as a new vendor is kind of like that.  If you answer every single question with total and absolute honesty you will survive and be welcomed with open arms into the Bitcoin tribe.  However if there is even one small ounce of deception in you or your business the tribe will generally find it.

We are not just picking on you.  We do this to everyone who comes in trying to sell us something and join our tribe.


Very eloquent post, bwagner. That said, who is Darin Stanchfield?
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We are not just picking on you.  We do this to everyone who comes in trying to sell us something and join our tribe.

I respect that.

They did it to me and even gave out my personal info + phone number on the forum. The funny thing is that since then, business has been blooming!

Visit, www.coinexchanger.com

And you never did explain your YouTube video showing a cat being put in a microwave. Only kidding! Glad to hear it all is going well, Leo.
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My hope was that Darin would offer up his name so that others may take the time to Google it and see for themselves if they would be comfortable dealing with SimpleCoin. That was my intent, anyway, hoping to distance myself if I was off-base but, at the same time, hoping others, here, would do their own due diligence. What happened is that all my questions were answered with the exception of a name, which was sidetracked, not once, but twice. Everyone here could see/read exactly what I'm in reference to.

I have been very civil and courteous to you.  I answered all of your initial requests.  I realized after a couple of replies to your queries that there was nothing I could provide to you that would 'make things right,' so I began to ignore them.  You've continued to levy accusations at SimpleCoin veiled as implications, and now you have begun doing it to me directly.  And all for what?  A hunch you had...

Have you even once considered the consequences that your posts would have if your hunch was incorrect?  How it would effect me, my company, and my employee?  I have my capital and time at risk for a project I really believe in.  What have you risked in levying your accusations at SimpleCoin or me?  Simply that you might be wrong?

Your quid pro quo response has left me in somewhat of a quagmire. Do I reply, or shelf the issue with the hope another comes along and pick up the mantle. I flipped a coin. Heads, I post a reply. Tails, I don't.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I've read a similar post, it didn't bode too well for the hot-under-the-collar poster. I purposely used h-u-t-c for the simple fact that you're assuming a rather defensive stance, a stance, I may add, would better serve you if saved for court if, or when, actual accusations, of which I've yet to tip, are volleyed your way.

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This 'concern' is all just for your own entertainment.

The above quote was not offered by you, but I felt a need to quote it, for I'm about to address each sentence of your post, in no particular order--for my own entertainment. I'll try do to so by not coming across as a pompous ass, Darin Stanchfield.

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A hunch you had...

Not a hunch, but red flags. I didn't start looking into SimpleCoin because I had a hunch something didn't smell right. In fact, starting my own investigation was not based on any of the other posters who've asked questions. It started after reading the OP and post #2. That is all! And is the truth! If nobody else would have posted, I would still have gone forward with my research. But...here's the kicker...I wouldn't even have given SimpleCoin a second thought if there wasn't that post #2.



So, to me fair, I'm not accusing the second poster of being one of your sock puppets. It could simply be a coincidence. But that coincidence fired up my tinfoil hat, now experiencing difficulty in turning it off. (I see, now, that this is going to be a fun post to pen and, hopefully, read)

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I have been very civil and courteous to you.

You sure have! And to everybody else on this thread. But exactly what changed? You're not acting like the same person prior to posting this post. For a person who's none nothing wrong, with nothing to hide, a defensive stance should be furthest from your mind. You would simply address each question and concern with the utmost truthfulness and courtesy you can muster, with mustering anything not even entering into the equation, for replies would come naturally and easy. See the rub you're now causing for yourself?

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How it would effect me, my company, and my employee?

In all your excitement, you left out family--and pets. I am surprised to read that 'employee' is singular.

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Simply that you might be wrong?

Perhaps, I shouldn't have opt to skip around addressing your post, but address each point in order. But why be methodic?

I've read that sentence several times, trying to put it in context, each time failing, therefore still not sure of your intent with that question(?). The best I can do is that you meant, "Simply put, you might be wrong." and if that's the case, that's the case. We all move forward, with the utmost apology from me and a 1 BTC donation to Bitcoin100 in your name. Please, make me pay!

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I answered all of your initial requests.

I like this one! As I've previously stated with an elaborate outline, you sure have, with always carefully avoiding the 'name' question. This, clearly, everyone can read how that all transpired. My tinfoil hat almost caught fire when all that was transpiring.

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I realized after a couple of replies to your queries that there was nothing I could provide to you that would 'make things right,' so I began to ignore them.

And you did a good job, I may add. Too good of a job, for you even avoided answering other questions, not related, at the time, by other posters, although you were clearly longed in here and had ample time to do such. Perhaps, you were in a quagmire yourself at the time, for if you replied to the other questions, but ignored mine, that would have possibly raised red flags for other readers of this thread. My guess is that you were biding time to see how all this unfolds and, at the same time, jockeying for position on how to handle this issue. To date, from my view, it's not going so hot, but time will tell.

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And all for what?

A badge! Since you've done a lot of reading of this forum, you'll probably got the joke. But then again, if you would have done a lot of reading of this forum, you wouldn't be making the same mistakes others have made in the past. You would be making new ones. Ones of which would be much harder to detect.

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Have you even once considered the consequences that your posts would have if your hunch was incorrect?

Yes! My main concern was how this would effect Bitcoin100 if I proceeded with my postings here on this thread. Therefore I spent hours, yes, hours, Googling my ass off, making sure that the route I chose had a solid foundation. Granted, there's still a slight chance that I'm mistaken and, if that's the case, I'll go into damage control and fix everything, and we all move forward.

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I have my capital and time at risk for a project I really believe in.

And believing in a project is an admirable virtue, one I can relate to with Bitcoin in general and, now, Bitcoin100 in particular. The capital you have invested into your project is definitely more than I'll invested in mine which, by the way, is nil, to date, with the exception of donations, which don't count, although I'm planning on investing, or donating as the case may be, capital to put in place a web presence. You may also have me beaten in time, albeit I've put in many a man hours. BTW, many other people have put in capital and time into projects they've believed in, to still have them not bear fruit. But a project based on a strong foundation, has a hell of a better chance to succeed than one based on shaky ground.

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You've continued to levy accusations at SimpleCoin veiled as implications, and now you have begun doing it to me directly.

Actually, I've avoided directing anything toward you as long as possible. You may consider this post as my first attempt in directing any implications your way.

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What have you risked in levying your accusations at SimpleCoin or me?

I believe this is the last sentence. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. Next time I'll address everything in order, because this proved to be not as much fun as I thought it would be doing it this way. It even pains me in having to pen this post. Not really!

As I've mentioned before, I've risked the reputation of Bitcoin100 by moving forward with. But, moreover, I risk the credibility of Bitcoin if I'd opt not to pursue this matter. And cred is really what this is all about, I believe.

That now concludes me addressing your post. I now see that bwagner has penned a well thought-out post, one, if I may suggest, heading his advice.

Thank you kindly, Darin Stanchfield, for your post, allowing me to address it in kind.

~Bruno~

PS: It was heads!
legendary
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Darin,

All we can see for a fact is that you have 21 posts.  We have no idea how long you have been reading, how much you have read, which threads you have read, or how long you have been around so please let me fill you in on a few things:

Because of the non revertible nature of Bitcoins it is much easier to scam people out of their BTC than it is to scam them using VISA, PayPal, etc.
Because of this fact criminals of all kinds flock to Bitcoins.
These criminals have come up with many ways to scam people, some obvious, some very subtle.
Many have fallen prey to these criminals over the years.
This leads to a very high level of paranoia in your customer base.
This is something you have to deal with as a vendor in the Bitcoin space.

Have you ever heard about certain tribes, when faced with the issue of trying to find out which member(s) of their tribe is lying, will place a red hot knife on the tongue of each member of the tribe?  The members that are not lying will not get burned, however those caught in a lie get their tongue burned.

This whole vetting process you are going through as a new vendor is kind of like that.  If you answer every single question with total and absolute honesty you will survive and be welcomed with open arms into the Bitcoin tribe.  However if there is even one small ounce of deception in you or your business the tribe will generally find it.

We are not just picking on you.  We do this to everyone who comes in trying to sell us something and join our tribe.
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Where can I SHORT your company?

From what I read and what someone has already pointed out, you will be fulfilling a large amount of stolen credit cards....

So keep your prices high, you'll need it.


But I do like the effort. Just change it up a bit... and you 'might' be able to make it work. I am wondering tho... since I don't know your rates... does your mark-up cover the mark-up the Credit Card Agency charge for cash with drawls on credit. If your under that... Let me know.. It'll be free money.
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It's giving the impression that Simplecoin with which I you have never dealt with, is somehow hiding something and looking to scam people. Subtle badmouthing of a service you don't know while claiming to be a potential customer.

Let's wait and see what his real customers have to say on this forum.

I do appreciate this post. I will always try to be honest with my postings. With that, I need to re-quote and re-address this before addressing your new post, above.

Personally, I'm just seeking fuller disclosure before I provide my credit card number to purchase Bitcoin from SimpleCoin.
Be honest, you won't ever buy anyway regardless of the striptease simplecoin performs to please you.
Simplecoin can't ever steal your money because you can issue a chargeback and you know that. This 'concern' is all just for your own entertainment.

That's my private opinion.

I am not new to the forums, I have visited them frequently since early April, but have never posted anything.  I wanted to announce a new service we are launching in December 2011: simplecoin.com

Anyways,  I'd not just like to announce the project, but participate in the discussions.  Thanks guys!

Darin was whitelisted after posting the above in the Newbie section. Besides having a command of the English language, how can this one post launch him out of Newbie without having to further post there or put in his community service (hours)? I found this odd, but even odder, I offer the following:

Nice web site. I like the fact that it's simple, lean and clean. The process of buying bitcoin seem simple enough. Great work!

Innocent enough looking post, until you consider the source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/arfeniel-46434 This is arfeniel's seventh post, first after being whitelisted the usual way. Arfeniel became a member on this board on 11-20-2011 (note to self: Google that number  Grin), and simplecoins became a member on 11-13-2011. That's when I start smelling a dirty sock. But I couldn't stand the smell any longer after reading the following:

easly use Bitcoin for every day purchase or payment.

I mean, it would be nice to have a "Bump"-like application on smart phone and transfert money to a friend or pay for some goods or services.
Or no need to waite 3-4 days to wire money to a international account (legally) - well you wouldn't need a bank account anymore so...

Yeah, good dreams

That's arfeniel's 6th post less than 24 hours earlier. Not only do I want him to pick my lottery numbers (that's another effin' lie, for I don't play the lottery), but I want him to pen my biography for, he too, has a command of the English language.

And one more thing:

I'm a new member but kind of a long time reader. Never look at the newbie sub-forum before. I was wondering why I could reply to any thread.
I guess I'll have to share my two cent why you guys for a while before going up in the big league Tongue
cheers!

Another long time reader, perhaps since April?

Let me be clear and honest. The above posts, along with my comments, are NOT THE WAY TO JUDGE anybody or company. Like I've stated, this is what raised my eyebrows. THAT IS ALL!!! Period. But, it was the raising of my eyebrows that lead me down a path and finding Darin Stanchfield.

That said, I will not comment further on this--at this time. Everyone here has the ability to do their own due diligence. I did mine. My only request is that Matthew get his chart software handy. It may be needed.

Bruno

PS: I sincerely hope that my comments here does not take away from the efforts I'm providing with Bitcoin100, although I have been sidetracked from those duties due to this concern.

One last thing, as I've done so in the past, I'm man enough to apologize for any errors in my actions. I only promise that I'll make more mistakes in the future.
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Thanks Darin!
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