Topic: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip - page 121. (Read 368330 times)
January 21, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
anyone tried to run 4 of them on one LEPA 1600W?
January 21, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
I ordered my antminer S1 last night. The order says paid and unshipped. Any idea when this beast will ship?
January 21, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
Bitmain need to push something stronger then 180Gh units to the market, very soon or they will be left behind.
Bitmain: Got anything up your sleeves? No need to worry about future 180Gh sales, they won´t sell less just because you tell us your next move,
Who cares about the X GH/s amount. It's irrelevant.Bitmain: Got anything up your sleeves? No need to worry about future 180Gh sales, they won´t sell less just because you tell us your next move,
Hashes per Joule? Relevant.
Hashes per BTC? Very relevant.
Hashes per cubic meter? Relevant for some.
Hashes per second per device? Almost totally irrelevant.
I think Bitmain has done well in offering a device smaller than some of the preorder unicorns. There are certainly people who bought only one or two units who wouldn't have bought a 4x performing unit at 4x the price because they didn't want to dive that deep in... doubly so when the prices are not attractive enough that a healthy profit can be completely assured.
I don't know anything about Bitmain's per unit order processing and shipping overheads, but assuming that they aren't enormous I'd imagine that around $1k to $2k in value is probably a purchasing sweet spot in terms of making devices which are accessible to a large number of people without dealing with the trouble of a lot of small purchases. Keeping the per device price around that much value but driving up the hashes per joule and hashes per sec per $ would probably be a good path forward.
+1 Well said, and I agree. I hadn't bought a piece of hardware since my B2 avalon almost a year ago... Then Bitmain showed up.
January 21, 2014, 05:58:45 PM
Bitmain need to push something stronger then 180Gh units to the market, very soon or they will be left behind.
Bitmain: Got anything up your sleeves? No need to worry about future 180Gh sales, they won´t sell less just because you tell us your next move,
Who cares about the X GH/s amount. It's irrelevant.Bitmain: Got anything up your sleeves? No need to worry about future 180Gh sales, they won´t sell less just because you tell us your next move,
Hashes per Joule? Relevant.
Hashes per BTC? Very relevant.
Hashes per cubic meter? Relevant for some.
Hashes per second per device? Almost totally irrelevant.
I think Bitmain has done well in offering a device smaller than some of the preorder unicorns. There are certainly people who bought only one or two units who wouldn't have bought a 4x performing unit at 4x the price because they didn't want to dive that deep in... doubly so when the prices are not attractive enough that a healthy profit can be completely assured.
I don't know anything about Bitmain's per unit order processing and shipping overheads, but assuming that they aren't enormous I'd imagine that around $1k to $2k in value is probably a purchasing sweet spot in terms of making devices which are accessible to a large number of people without dealing with the trouble of a lot of small purchases. Keeping the per device price around that much value but driving up the hashes per joule and hashes per sec per $ would probably be a good path forward.
January 21, 2014, 05:50:09 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
If you have both can you make a video comparing the noise of both if that is not too much trouble. Thank you.
gmaxwell, if you can sleep in a room with a turbine sound avalon you are deaf, definitly.
Compared with a avalon the ant is like a whipser.
There are but you can't compare 2 videos in terms of noise if they are not shot with the same microphone.
You can make a quick video with your phone just to compare noise please
In terms of PSU: is Corsair 430W Builder Series enough or should I get 500W version?
Thank you.
Look at test CL2.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=214
i suggest you to use : Corsair CP-9020015 750W.
i think this is quite enough for a miner.
from what i read in forums and reviews you need 32A on 12V rail.
I'll then get Corsair Builder Series CXM 500W
it has 38A on the 12V line.
January 21, 2014, 05:35:23 PM
Bitmain need to push something stronger then 180Gh units to the market, very soon or they will be left behind.
Bitmain: Got anything up your sleeves? No need to worry about future 180Gh sales, they won´t sell less just because you tell us your next move,
Bitmain: Got anything up your sleeves? No need to worry about future 180Gh sales, they won´t sell less just because you tell us your next move,
January 21, 2014, 05:34:00 PM
I've been using Antec 620W High Current "Gamers" exclusively for my Ants
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371059
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371059
January 21, 2014, 05:31:31 PM
The CX430 is only rated to 28A on its 12V rail and is group regulated so the 12V rail voltage will drop quite a bit (and the 5V rail voltage will go way high) if you don't load the 5V rail as well. It's a bad choice.
Look at test CL2.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=214
Look at test CL2.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=214
i suggest you to use : Corsair CP-9020015 750W.
i think this is quite enough for a miner.
from what i read in forums and reviews you need 32A on 12V rail.
I'll then get Corsair Builder Series CXM 500W
it has 38A on the 12V line.
32A is really pushing it - you could easily have high error rates and absolutely no overclocking ability (and isnt $10 more for a bigger PSU worth an extra 10-20GH/s?)
January 21, 2014, 05:28:56 PM
That would probably work, although it's the same crappy group regulated design and the 430W and will have issues will only being loaded on its 12V rail.
January 21, 2014, 05:11:22 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
If you have both can you make a video comparing the noise of both if that is not too much trouble. Thank you.
gmaxwell, if you can sleep in a room with a turbine sound avalon you are deaf, definitly.
Compared with a avalon the ant is like a whipser.
There are but you can't compare 2 videos in terms of noise if they are not shot with the same microphone.
You can make a quick video with your phone just to compare noise please
In terms of PSU: is Corsair 430W Builder Series enough or should I get 500W version?
Thank you.
Look at test CL2.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=214
i suggest you to use : Corsair CP-9020015 750W.
i think this is quite enough for a miner.
from what i read in forums and reviews you need 32A on 12V rail.
I'll then get Corsair Builder Series CXM 500W
it has 38A on the 12V line.
January 21, 2014, 05:08:03 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
If you have both can you make a video comparing the noise of both if that is not too much trouble. Thank you.
gmaxwell, if you can sleep in a room with a turbine sound avalon you are deaf, definitly.
Compared with a avalon the ant is like a whipser.
There are but you can't compare 2 videos in terms of noise if they are not shot with the same microphone.
You can make a quick video with your phone just to compare noise please
In terms of PSU: is Corsair 430W Builder Series enough or should I get 500W version?
Thank you.
Look at test CL2.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=214
i suggest you to use : Corsair CP-9020015 750W.
i think this is quite enough for a miner.
from what i read in forums and reviews you need 32A on 12V rail.
January 21, 2014, 04:31:52 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
If you have both can you make a video comparing the noise of both if that is not too much trouble. Thank you.
gmaxwell, if you can sleep in a room with a turbine sound avalon you are deaf, definitly.
Compared with a avalon the ant is like a whipser.
There are but you can't compare 2 videos in terms of noise if they are not shot with the same microphone.
You can make a quick video with your phone just to compare noise please
In terms of PSU: is Corsair 430W Builder Series enough or should I get 500W version?
Thank you.
Look at test CL2.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=214
January 21, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
If you have both can you make a video comparing the noise of both if that is not too much trouble. Thank you.
gmaxwell, if you can sleep in a room with a turbine sound avalon you are deaf, definitly.
Compared with a avalon the ant is like a whipser.
There are but you can't compare 2 videos in terms of noise if they are not shot with the same microphone.
You can make a quick video with your phone just to compare noise please
In terms of PSU: is Corsair 430W Builder Series enough or should I get 500W version?
Thank you.
January 21, 2014, 03:36:57 PM
...Though, — we've also been sleeping in a room with an Avalon, so maybe we've already gone deaf.
Sleeping with an avalon, yes you must have gone deaf, when I had mine at home it was one floor up and 2 rooms over and I could still hear it.
Tolerance varies per person... have a friend who worked for decades in datacenters... now he finds silence very very uncomfortable...
January 21, 2014, 03:36:28 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
If you have both can you make a video comparing the noise of both if that is not too much trouble. Thank you.
gmaxwell, if you can sleep in a room with a turbine sound avalon you are deaf, definitly.
Compared with a avalon the ant is like a whipser.
January 21, 2014, 03:33:38 PM
...Though, — we've also been sleeping in a room with an Avalon, so maybe we've already gone deaf.
Sleeping with an avalon, yes you must have gone deaf, when I had mine at home it was one floor up and 2 rooms over and I could still hear it.
January 21, 2014, 02:43:25 PM
I made the order on the 19th, but my ant has not sent. When will be sent it?
Probably today.
January 21, 2014, 02:38:40 PM
I made the order on the 19th, but my ant has not sent. When will be sent it?
January 21, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Let me tell: with a knc jupiter you can sleep in the same room, even near the jupiter. No noise...the ants are 3 or 4 times louder.
Hm. I don't think it's that loud, and me and my SO sleep in a room with two of them. Though, — we've also been sleeping in a room with an Avalon, so maybe we've already gone deaf. They're _much_ quieter than the original avalon at least.
January 21, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
ok cool
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