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legendary
Activity: 3304
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
March 22, 2017, 10:49:50 AM
If you want a 100GH USB miner but you don't want it to run at 10W, it's currently physics and the state of semiconductor technology preventing its manufacture. The best chip available right now could get you about 30GH from 2.5W USB power. I'm currently developing that stick. Take a look at the recent posts in my GekkoScience 16nm dev thread.
hero member
Activity: 534
Merit: 500
March 22, 2017, 10:30:36 AM
My stuff isn't exactly "mass production" on the scale of Block Erupters and U1/U2, but my stick miners will run about as cold as you want them to. The 2Pac will get about 8GH at stock USB power if you set it to baseline voltage and 75MHz.

The reason there are no mass-produced stickminers at all right now is because the industry doesn't care about anyone except themselves and high-dollar commercial customers. That's why the only miners made in the last two years are >1KW 80db monstrosities requiring industrial power and exhaust. Why should they focus efforts into a $30 miner and get a thousand annoying customers to wrangle when they can make a $2k miner and sell a thousand to one guy?
I don't know how much demand there is but I wonder if you could sell 10,000 100GH usb miners if there was such a thing?  Must be economics preventing the manufacture of this product.
legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 1842
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
March 22, 2017, 08:32:04 AM
My stuff isn't exactly "mass production" on the scale of Block Erupters and U1/U2, but my stick miners will run about as cold as you want them to. The 2Pac will get about 8GH at stock USB power if you set it to baseline voltage and 75MHz.

The reason there are no mass-produced stickminers at all right now is because the industry doesn't care about anyone except themselves and high-dollar commercial customers. That's why the only miners made in the last two years are >1KW 80db monstrosities requiring industrial power and exhaust. Why should they focus efforts into a $30 miner and get a thousand annoying customers to wrangle when they can make a $2k miner and sell a thousand to one guy?
hero member
Activity: 534
Merit: 500
March 22, 2017, 06:07:49 AM
That BE300 announcement in December 2014 was what got Novak and I seriously considering designing our own miner.
I know you have done some usb miner projects, but why isn't there a mass produced usb miner with whatever whatever specs that can run less than 10-25w of power?  I would totally be mining right now if it wasn't for the heat and noise.  A small lottery ticket is better than none at all?
legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 1842
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
March 21, 2017, 06:28:06 PM
...huh? There were some BE200 stick projects in 2014, but as far as I know the BE300 never saw production. Engineering samples were tested and data released in December 2014 with efficiencies between 0.2 and about 0.35J/GH, making them almost equivalent to the BM1385 which appeared something like 8 months later.

My BM1384 Compac was originally a dev step toward making a pod. There was never intended to be a stickminer product, but the first step was to make sure we could talk to one ASIC. Enough people wanted a stickminer that I went ahead and finished designing it. I kept working on pod stuff on the side, but honestly I was limited by drivers. Novak's Compac driver was a rehash of U3 support in Icarus and we had no real idea how to support multiple chips natively. VH spent weeks reverse-engineering the signals coming out of an S5 controller to do it and now has a driver that works for an arbitrary number of BM1384, from 1 to a couple hundred. That's the real key that makes my job as the hardware designer not necessarily easy but a heck of a lot more possible.

It would have been nice to have worked with BE300 instead of BM1384 in 2015, if ASICMiner had not evaporated. Those looked to be some pretty solid chips, and with ASICMiner's open support of third-party dev with BE200 - compared to Bitmain's hostility toward everything and everyone that isn't Bitmain - everything would have been a lot easier.

Anyways, USB Block Erupters.
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
March 21, 2017, 06:18:05 PM
That BE300 announcement in December 2014 was what got Novak and I seriously considering designing our own miner.
I remember the hype surrounding the sticks back in 2014 for those BE300 sticks, apparently they ran too hot even with a large heatsink so they were scrapped. Good thing you guys are working on even more sticks now, never knew that little project was the catalyst for these even more hyped projects!
legendary
Activity: 3304
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
March 21, 2017, 04:45:34 PM
That BE300 announcement in December 2014 was what got Novak and I seriously considering designing our own miner.
legendary
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Merit: 1057
Don't use bitcoin.de if you care about privacy!
March 21, 2017, 02:59:19 PM
* Shipping is free.

* cgminer with windows now works (even with the emerald batch).

* Furthermore, the sapphire batch will have much better appearance on the heatsink side.

How can I buy it? and the price? please.

Holy Resurrection Batman!

if you Really want one of these little miners (remember, these are 333MegaHash/s most miners are in the Peta, I ment, Terra Hashs, and the latest sticks are from sidehack at 10GH/s+ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/general-sales-closed-gekkoscience-2pac-2x-bm1384-usb-stick-miner-1718358) you can keep an eye on ebay (one here at http://www.ebay.com/itm/132032003324 but i cannot vouch for this person, it was a quick search on ebay).

friedcat got fried, he will probably Never show up here again, last thing he was dabbling in was the BE300 chips, and then went bankrupt, a few people still want his tail..


Wow, that was a throwback to the good old times in bitcoinland when ASIC development felt like a race. Cry
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250
Bigboss
March 21, 2017, 07:28:01 AM
I have a few Friedcat miners.  PM me if you want them.
If anyone is looking to sell Rev2.0 green board Erupters (I guess they called them Emerald Siries), PM. Would love one for personal collection.
legendary
Activity: 1593
Merit: 1004
March 21, 2017, 05:20:28 AM
I have a few Friedcat miners.  PM me if you want them.
hero member
Activity: 767
Merit: 500
March 21, 2017, 12:28:00 AM
* Shipping is free.

* cgminer with windows now works (even with the emerald batch).

* Furthermore, the sapphire batch will have much better appearance on the heatsink side.

How can I buy it? and the price? please.

Holy Resurrection Batman!

if you Really want one of these little miners (remember, these are 333MegaHash/s most miners are in the Peta, I ment, Terra Hashs, and the latest sticks are from sidehack at 10GH/s+ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/general-sales-closed-gekkoscience-2pac-2x-bm1384-usb-stick-miner-1718358) you can keep an eye on ebay (one here at http://www.ebay.com/itm/132032003324 but i cannot vouch for this person, it was a quick search on ebay).

friedcat got fried, he will probably Never show up here again, last thing he was dabbling in was the BE300 chips, and then went bankrupt, a few people still want his tail..
legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 1842
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
March 18, 2017, 12:07:02 AM
You can't. They stopped making them about three years ago.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
March 18, 2017, 12:06:09 AM
* Shipping is free.

* cgminer with windows now works (even with the emerald batch).

* Furthermore, the sapphire batch will have much better appearance on the heatsink side.

How can I buy it? and the price? please.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
FUN > ROI
May 15, 2014, 07:06:59 PM
Someone want to explain to me why the unit price jumps to $30 when you put 20 or more in your cart?
Their bulk discount thing has been broken since approximately forever.  I should send them a PM about that  Grin

This is now fixed Smiley
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
FUN > ROI
May 13, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
They've more than earned back their cost in dollar value (due to the monster rise in bitcoin price), though in BTC value I don't think they broke even.
Yep.  At BTC1.99 ($220 at the time) to purchase at introduction, their return in BTC didn't cause break-even, but if you sold the BTC you had earned from them at peak, it would have ROIed ~500%.  Not bad Wink (holding on to the BTC1.99 would have even better, of course).  Your experience may have varied, especially after price drops Smiley
From: An Homage to The Block Erupter USB
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
May 13, 2014, 07:46:46 AM
I've switched my 30-odd block erupters to solo mining, and I'll probably take them offline in June or July. Though honestly, they're so cheap to run I may keep them going anyway, even knowing they cost more to run than they'll generate.

They've more than earned back their cost in dollar value (due to the monster rise in bitcoin price), though in BTC value I don't think they broke even. But the value I got from them, in learning about the mining process, pools, Linux, and all kinds of other random info is invaluable. Tiny they may be, but they made an impact on my BTC life. Smiley
full member
Activity: 201
Merit: 100
May 12, 2014, 07:37:54 PM
If anyone wants to sell off there old erupters in the UK I will buy Smiley As long as they are cheap!
I've a few of mine on ebay ... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321399833009
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
May 09, 2014, 05:47:40 PM
Shame the postage to the UK costs so much! I'd buy a load.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
FUN > ROI
May 09, 2014, 04:52:05 AM
Someone want to explain to me why the unit price jumps to $30 when you put 20 or more in your cart?
Their bulk discount thing has been broken since approximately forever.  I should send them a PM about that  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
May 09, 2014, 03:43:53 AM
If anyone wants to sell off there old erupters in the UK I will buy Smiley As long as they are cheap!
How cheap do you want them?

The Block Erupter USB is available for $5 from neXgen Mining now.

Any cheaper and they enter promotional give-away item territory; etch off the existing logo, print/laser your own on Wink
Someone want to explain to me why the unit price jumps to $30 when you put 20 or more in your cart?
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