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Topic: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB - page 42. (Read 251998 times)

legendary
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May 07, 2013, 05:38:56 AM
ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?! $230 for a device that's 1/16th the speed of the $275 BFL machine? These should be $30. $40 tops.

delivery time, novelty value, loathing of bfl, etc... it's all been said.
sr. member
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yung lean
May 07, 2013, 05:37:50 AM
ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?! $230 for a device that's 1/16th the speed of the $275 BFL machine? These should be $30. $40 tops.
hero member
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The Last NXT Founder
May 07, 2013, 03:34:59 AM
Also If I see another person post it's decentralizing the network, it leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions...

1. You are solomining, which will probably never net a block.

2. you are using a pool (chances are, a big one) which doesn't really decentralize it.

either way the amount added to the network is so small I dare call it negligible

Why using a pool doesn't decentralize network? There are many pools, and you can move your hashrate between them freely. You can also start your own pool.

Although I do agree, that cumulative hashrate of these toys is gonna be negligible and thus would hardly do anything for decentralization.

just cause you are centralizing it to the pool. instead of a lot of small computers your adding hashrates to a big one. I love the idea, just way  way too expensive. was ready to buy a lot of these at a cheaper price and retail em, but many 2 btc is outrageous
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May 07, 2013, 03:30:57 AM
Also If I see another person post it's decentralizing the network, it leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions...

1. You are solomining, which will probably never net a block.

2. you are using a pool (chances are, a big one) which doesn't really decentralize it.

either way the amount added to the network is so small I dare call it negligible

Why using a pool doesn't decentralize network? There are many pools, and you can move your hashrate between them freely. You can also start your own pool.

Although I do agree, that cumulative hashrate of these toys is gonna be negligible and thus would hardly do anything for decentralization.
hero member
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The Last NXT Founder
May 07, 2013, 12:13:30 AM
Maybe you should consider CedarTec, although the debate on their legitimacy is not over.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-cedartec-topic-new-asic-scam-170739

Their legitimacy is so in question I would hesitate to even reference them imo.

Also If I see another person post it's decentralizing the network, it leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions...

1. You are solomining, which will probably never net a block.

2. you are using a pool (chances are, a big one) which doesn't really decentralize it.

either way the amount added to the network is so small I dare call it negligible
sr. member
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May 06, 2013, 10:22:47 PM
Maybe you should consider CedarTec, although the debate on their legitimacy is not over.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-cedartec-topic-new-asic-scam-170739
hero member
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May 06, 2013, 10:21:40 PM
Awesome product.
Unfortunately, your price point is, to be blunt, retarded.

Yeah. Don't get it. I can get a Jalapeño from BFL (eww) for just a little more, and I get 5 GH/s, as opposed to 300 MH/s.

Yes, that is a valid point but be prepared to wait awhile. Is there a premium on ASICMiner products (compared to Avalon/BFL)? Yes, because you get your product within a week. If folks are willing to wait for Avalon/BFL for lower prices, feel free to do so. Question you have to ask is do you want your hash power now or later?

There are folks trying to get their batches of Avalon chips, making USB miners of their own. If they can do it, that's great! Competition for AM and they'll have to react to the market. However, ASICMiner will have technical support and quality control for their USB miners. Can the DIY Avalon USB miners say the same?
sr. member
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May 06, 2013, 10:16:01 PM
Awesome product.
Unfortunately, your price point is, to be blunt, retarded.

Yeah. Don't get it. I can get a Jalapeño from BFL (eww) for just a little more, and I get 5 GH/s, as opposed to 300 MH/s.
hero member
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May 06, 2013, 10:11:58 PM
Let's see a video of them actually mining. I'm having a hard time believing these little things actually work at 300MH/s.

Proof? They attach about 32 chips per board (10 GH/s per board) and mine with them:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-auction-10-block-erupter-blades-ended-178275

Want to see it in action? They use those boards themselves, ASICMiner is easily 20% of the current network:

https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=rankings [User 67117]

http://bitminter.com/livestats/big [realasicminer]

That work?
PeZ
sr. member
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May 06, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
Let's see a video of them actually mining. I'm having a hard time believing these little things actually work at 300MH/s.
legendary
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May 06, 2013, 08:35:51 PM
Probably because everyone heard I bought AM last week.  Undecided

So it's all your fault!

Back on topic, wanna organise a group buy for Aus? Smiley

Not a bad idea.
legendary
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HODL OR DIE
May 06, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
Obviously this is not good value, and should not be viewed as a means to mine for profit, but to help decentralise the network. If you hold bitcoins and have gained in equity thanks to the upward price movements, trading a small part of your gains to help support the network and defend your overall investment is worth considering.
full member
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May 06, 2013, 07:28:40 PM
With everyone bitching about the price I think I want to add my two cents. The only feasible way the price is going to drop is if no one buys these, for a while. But because we all want these so bad, there are going to be some of us who are going to drop the 2BTC on them. Especially for those of us who bought into BTC when it was cheap. As long as there is demand at the current price, it shouldn't drop too much. The company can simply substitute with more mining... So in the end, the price will probably not be dropping until another company creates a similar one... But until then, I'm just gonna look at these pictures and wish I had a fatter wallet.

Buying like this is like a giant game of chicken.  Some people will buy it.  They will benefit from earlier hashing power.  Those who wait may get a lower price, but at a higher hashrate over less time.

Except you're not playing chicken with the guy selling.  You're playing with all of the other buyers.
sr. member
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May 06, 2013, 07:02:11 PM
Probably because everyone heard I bought AM last week.  Undecided

So it's all your fault!

Back on topic, wanna organise a group buy for Aus? Smiley
legendary
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May 06, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Because you asked for it  Wink

Yeah, I think I've dragged that one as far as it will go.

Seriously, though, what would cause the price to drop so much and the willingness to sell rise on positive news only? It's like Apple had announced the iPhone 7 would give users free sex and beer and everyone suddenly dumping their shares...

.b

Probably because everyone heard I bought AM last week.  Undecided
sr. member
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Merit: 250
May 06, 2013, 05:16:05 PM
Update

This is a picture showing the relative size to the laptop. One with heatsink and one without.


We also tested it on the USB-hub. Seven in a row run over a whole night and are all very stable.


Will these fit in usb as shown with heatsinks attached? Also, are they usb 2.0 compatible ( I assume they are). Finally, will they work on bitminter with their java program. Thanks.
newbie
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May 06, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
With everyone bitching about the price I think I want to add my two cents. The only feasible way the price is going to drop is if no one buys these, for a while. But because we all want these so bad, there are going to be some of us who are going to drop the 2BTC on them. Especially for those of us who bought into BTC when it was cheap. As long as there is demand at the current price, it shouldn't drop too much. The company can simply substitute with more mining... So in the end, the price will probably not be dropping until another company creates a similar one... But until then, I'm just gonna look at these pictures and wish I had a fatter wallet.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1008
May 06, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
Update

We also tested it on the USB-hub. Seven in a row run over a whole night and are all very stable.
image snip

Would they fit with the heatsinks attached?  It looks like there might be a problem there.
wait - so, if they'll run without the heatsinks, why did you make/order heatsinks that we now have to pay for?
The heatsink costs $0.1 or so and mitigates the temperature from the hashing IC. The IC works fine on high temperature but it may hurt the fingers if accidentally touched at its back.
full member
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May 06, 2013, 04:18:18 PM
as far as i see, there is no intention from sellers to lower price ... so i guess everybody who say ill buy 10 when price will get lower should rethink their plans Smiley

The plan is to wait until competing products drive the price down. It will happen eventually.

I am gonna wait till they are about 30-50 bucks or so in a few months on ebay or see if the other usb: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/klondike-1-avalon-asic-chip-mini-usb-miner-196281

is around the cheaper price they are shooting for.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1008
May 06, 2013, 04:01:53 PM
I am curious how the individual units in the bulk 300 order will be packaged.

as am i.
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