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Topic: [ANNOUNCING] XAP coin - Open-Source the Internet - API Marketplace - page 2. (Read 22614 times)

newbie
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so when are they going to send my 1 btc back?
If they send it back, you should be grateful that they don't give you back 0.45BTC to reflect how much you'd have left if they'd let you buy  Grin
newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
hey,
I sent 1 btc to the crowd sell address, transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/4f424d848fc0bf867f5f4558fc61369b5bab28a55238ea2b2789b53777f826cb
but I don't see I have XAP coins in that address when I open my Omniwallet.
please help!
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Attempts to send funds to the API "Address" on or after 11 AM (central time) July 18th 2014 (as determined by bitcoin block chain records), will not be considered APICoins purchases and shall be sent back to the originating Bitcoin wallets in the form of Bitcoin minus transaction fees.

Thank you for your replay - My mistake.
so when are they going to send my 1 btc back?
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
hey,

I sent 1 btc to the crowd sell address, transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/4f424d848fc0bf867f5f4558fc61369b5bab28a55238ea2b2789b53777f826cb

but I don't see I have XAP coins in that address when I open my Omniwallet.

please help!


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Attempts to send funds to the API "Address" on or after 11 AM (central time) July 18th 2014 (as determined by bitcoin block chain records), will not be considered APICoins purchases and shall be sent back to the originating Bitcoin wallets in the form of Bitcoin minus transaction fees.

newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
hey,

I sent 1 btc to the crowd sell address, transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/4f424d848fc0bf867f5f4558fc61369b5bab28a55238ea2b2789b53777f826cb

but I don't see I have XAP coins in that address when I open my Omniwallet.

please help!
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017

WTB xap, pm me your price and the amount.TKS

Here you go - https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_xap

How's the current price compared to IPO ? is it low or high?

This is the original XAP IPO plan


legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
low market cap and the beautiful WEB. however, why the DEV focus on the BTT
Sir, DEV are very busy on the development.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000

WTB xap, pm me your price and the amount.TKS

Here you go - https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_xap

How's the current price compared to IPO ? is it low or high?
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
low market cap and the beautiful WEB. however, why the DEV focus on the BTT
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
member
Activity: 92
Merit: 10

WTB xap, pm me your price and the amount.TKS
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
I missed the presale but I want to buy some now, where can I do?
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
@DEV, it's better to spend some time to take care this ANN thread, it can spread awareness over this most important community in the crypto world.
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
Copied the below information from http://buyxap.com/

The API Network Crowdsale is now complete: Thank you everyone for participating.
 
XAP are being distributed, please check your Omni Wallet via the address you sent the BTC from in order to see your XAP tokens (use a Chrome browser).
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Angel investor.
I have sent BTC from blockchain.info wallet that has a private key. Why I don't get my XAP.....I was so nervous Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

Man, you can check your XAP in https://www.omniwallet.org
member
Activity: 92
Merit: 10
I have sent BTC from blockchain.info wallet that has a private key. Why I don't get my XAP.....I was so nervous Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
so given the were expecting x thousand BTC....will they have enough to dev this api coin?
full member
Activity: 221
Merit: 100
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Question #9

Why doesn't Alice accept bitcoins for her API service?

Answer #9

Ease, Discovery, and Competition

Alice could accept bitcoin directly. But unless she wants to do that manually, she will have to set up a payment mechanism, read Bitpay or the like which is extra work for her.

There is also the discovery issue. Yes, Alice sets up API and use BitPay to take in BTC, But how does Bob find Alice's API? He spends time looking through all the websites, seeing which ones offer the API he needs, maybe stumbles upon Alice's API and decides to use it.

Lastly, there is the competition issue. If Bob only has one option for his API provider, then his application is fragile. Every time Alice changes her API (which could be often) then Bob must fix the now broken data coming into his site. If instead Alice, Fay, and Georgia are offering the Bitcoin to Dogecoin price ticker API, then Alice better treat Bob, Charlie, Dan, and Ethan well or they will choose to switch providers to Fay or Georgia instead. In summary, Ease, Discovery, and Competition are really critical here.

A similar example we can look at in the real world is why Overstock.com (a huge company) doesn't just do their own bitcoin merchant services. Why use Coinbase or Bitpay? Overstock could do it themselves. But ease, discovery and competition play similar roles in that decision too. So if Coinbase charges a 1% fee or has me use Coinbase token either way its easier for Overstock than doing everything themselves.

The above is from https://github.com/APINetwork/FAQ

I find these explanations unconvincing.

Accepting bitcoin is conflated with fiat payment processing.  There is no explanation of why accepting this new cryptocurrency is different from accepting bitcoin.  The opening statement about payment processing overhead is spurious and nonsensical.

Discovery is a non-issue.  A directory website solves this.

Competition.  How does creating a new fiefdom where an immense amount of new currency units are controlled by a small group foster competition?  There is also another spurious assertion being made that somehow this platform will remove the possibility of an API changing over time or going offline.

Paying for API access with cryptocurrency sounds reasonable.  Doing so with microtransactions makes sense, and this is something to work towards.

I will track this project over time but I am not convinced of its promises or viability, especially considering the content of the above FAQ item.

There is this underlying thread of promotion as sort of a proof of API system that doesn't really make sense.  Different proof of resource schemes (proof of storage, proof of bandwith, torcoin, etc.) may very well have credible reasons for the creation of separate cryptocurrencies.  I don't see the same holding true for what is essentially an API directory.  Anyone with an API can already easily create an automated pay-to-use structure with bitcoin.  Your api key is the public address from which you sent payment.  Your service turns off when you run out of credits.

Buy XAP address:
https://blockchain.info/address/12Stz3hoF1sY9J12GyMhsAGBa16vWrmufG
73 transactions, 61 BTC
Yet their twitter feed states that $5M USD was raised last year:
https://twitter.com/dai_truong/status/404798495669764096

I'm sure that there's something I've misconstrued about these two events.  Does anyone have insight into what's going on there?

I would also be curious to hear from some investors in the coin IPO as to why you think that this might be a viable platform.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1023
the concept has pormise, eg API calls have value.

However so far people are giving API's away for free in most cases as they want you to be able to use their software to monitize it down the track some where, eg the ultimate audience is paying it through buy advertised products

essentially info aggregator (face book) want you to come in and use.

financial servers charge eg Bloomberg....but what happens when BTC takes over there anyway?

however

they buying from self, well they are givign you a chance to ride with them, if it all pans out (big if)

what I want to know is what do they do with the XAP not sold in the initial tranch.

They should just split it all with those that send BTC to start with.....
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
This is not scam, though the coin is a bit expensive
@Dev, could you give the timeline of this coin.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Vires in Numeris
####### Newsflash for those that didn't catch it #######

It seems this is not a scam, just a sneaky, shady, unethical and manipulative business deal to extract profit from others. Oh wait, that IS a scam! It's all so clear now:


Use of the XBT (BTC) from the Crowdsale Event:

-Buy the intellectual property and codebase of the API Network from Engine Inc. and then open source that code to the API community. Cost 900 XBT (BTC) and 2,000,000 API Coins (XAP) to be generated at the end of the crowdsale event.

ok

Curtis Lacy, the API Network’s lead architect-

right

Curtis has served the past two years as Engine Inc.’s Chief Technology Officer



Engine, Inc. (http://engine.co) is one of the first web services to plug in with the API Network’s marketplace.


What a coincidence!


You want $540,000USD + 2,000,000 XAP to buy software from yourself, that you've already created and already own?



A much clearer picture is coming to light here.
Did your company spend a lot of money building a product which it can't or is having a lot of trouble monetizing?
What better way to monetize it than to buy out its proprietary software and restructure the company into a more profitable business?

Don't even try to give me any bullshit along the lines of "I don't own engine.co!" yea, you don't but you are the CTO and Johnston is the CEO. I would say you fucking own it wouldn't you?

So you ALREADY OWN Engine.co and now you want $540,000USD to buy what you've already made from yourselves.

Doesn't sound so nice of a deal now does it? You are like a carpenter who shows up to a job with a box full of tools and says "ok to start work I need you to buy me tools", and the client says "but you already have tools, they are right there, I can see them", and you say "those are my tools! not yours!! I'm not gonna build this thing unless you buy the tools I already own! and you still have to pay my salary as well!"

Am I Paraphrasing correctly?

What now? You want a ridiculous amount of money which you can hardly justify. The 900 BTC is just the tip of the iceberg. You then want thousands more BTC to create something that you will keep a large % control of. It also comes to light that your partner is one of the BitAngels creators, so he should have access to large amounts of investment capital. Why are you trying to rip off the community for money when you've got Mr. Moneybags on your team?



This project actually has/had a lot of promise, why did you have to sleaze it up with your greed?
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