Announcing ZiftrCOIN Release - page 10.

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Quote from: sishendaoye on December 12, 2015, 04:51:35 PM

Wow is ZRC still there?
I thought they were long gone? After the coin hit the exchanges it was 1 depressing downward line...

That's because the coin is not the target of pump and dump schemes, isn't being artificially manipulated (currently) and the market is thin for it, because there are no use cases yet. It isn't being accepted anywhere and we don't know firm details about what the combined company has planned for it. I got into Ziftrcoin not because I expected a quick pump and profit, or a parabolic "November 2013" manipulation to profit from, but because I believed in their business plan and their long-term goals for the coin. I invested with a five year outlook, and until they show me that they're not going to be able to deliver on the promise of the coin and the ecosystem, I'm staying put.

Hear, hear! Me too.

I've been quiet of late due to some stuff going on IRL, but stopped by to second (or third?) this post. In addition, the merger with GoCoin has certainly pushed any roadmap they had way forward. It's still a big plus in my book, just that such business changes will obviously take a good while to materialize any public-facing results.

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Quote from: FreeJack2k on December 13, 2015, 02:50:12 PM

Quote from: sishendaoye on December 12, 2015, 04:51:35 PM

Wow is ZRC still there?
I thought they were long gone? After the coin hit the exchanges it was 1 depressing downward line...

That's because the coin is not the target of pump and dump schemes, isn't being artificially manipulated (currently) and the market is thin for it, because there are no use cases yet. It isn't being accepted anywhere and we don't know firm details about what the combined company has planned for it. I got into Ziftrcoin not because I expected a quick pump and profit, or a parabolic "November 2013" manipulation to profit from, but because I believed in their business plan and their long-term goals for the coin. I invested with a five year outlook, and until they show me that they're not going to be able to deliver on the promise of the coin and the ecosystem, I'm staying put.

Hear, hear! Me too.

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Quote from: sishendaoye on December 12, 2015, 04:51:35 PM

Wow is ZRC still there?
I thought they were long gone? After the coin hit the exchanges it was 1 depressing downward line...

That's because the coin is not the target of pump and dump schemes, isn't being artificially manipulated (currently) and the market is thin for it, because there are no use cases yet. It isn't being accepted anywhere and we don't know firm details about what the combined company has planned for it. I got into Ziftrcoin not because I expected a quick pump and profit, or a parabolic "November 2013" manipulation to profit from, but because I believed in their business plan and their long-term goals for the coin, and I liked that the branding and marketing were controlled not by some loose collective of crypto fanboys, but by a business with a vested interest in its success. I invested with a five year outlook, and until they show me that they're not going to be able to deliver on the promise of the coin and the ecosystem, I'm staying put.

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Wow is ZRC still there?
I thought they were long gone? After the coin hit the exchanges it was 1 depressing downward line...

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Exactly. It takes time to do things right.

Anyone looking for a quick profit in Alts will have to get into a ponzi early.

Otherwise, "slow but steady wins the race." ZRC supporters prefer things to be developed well, rather than be cobbled together too fast.

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You're making a lot of assumptions about what's going to happen, based on pretty minimal information. The merger was just completed. Give them a bit of time to get the two companies and the technology integrated. It's not gonna happen overnight.

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So, basically none of this is happening

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We’re currently working with a group of beta merchants to help them implement ziftrPAY, our multi-cryptocurrency/credit card payment platform, and we plan to reach critical mass in time for Black Friday/Cyber Monday 2015.

And this brings us to the $1 minimum redemption value, which has been a cornerstone of our business model since we first launched the ziftrCOIN website. We’re promising a $1 minimum redemption value when spent in our ziftrPAY network of merchants...

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There’s lots of chatter about our official ziftrCOIN giveaway – and understandably so! I mean, who doesn’t want free ziftrCOINs? So here’s the deal. We are most definitely going to have a ziftrCOIN giveaway – 100 ziftrCOINs to the first 1 million users – but it’s not going to be until late 2015.

But, the worst part, is that they haven't had the honesty to address this directly and properly inform investors in the original plan what to expect going forward about what they were promised. And that story about ''credit card processing'' sorry but we already heard that one from the master of crypto-scams, Josh Garza/Paycoin. It's about time they deliver on their promises.

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Quote from: Poly Coins on December 10, 2015, 05:17:17 PM

Why then they didn't call it so explicitly? To me what they are doing is lumping it together with

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Bitcoin and popular altcoins Litecoin, Dogecoin and Tether

, so it's not center stage anymore, and therefore they will not fulfill the promise they made to investors in the original project.

I mentioned the "why" in my post. It's pretty safe to assume that since the combined company will go forward as simply "GoCoin" that the Ziftr brand will cease to exist...and therefore, calling the coin "Ziftrcoin" would confuse things. Ziftrcoin was always meant to be a method for getting new users interested in - and using - cryptocurrency, by giving it away and giving it built-in value, regardless of what it trades for on the exchanges. Because GoCoin now (thanks to this merger) can offer credit card payments, people making purchases with credit cards using GoCoin as the payment processor will automatically receive the loyalty bonus of Ziftrcoin (or whatever it's ultimately called), which gives them an incentive to use the coin. It's a major value add that no other crypto payment processor can boast.

Quote from: ZWGuy on December 10, 2015, 06:55:48 PM

Also, I don't want to go into too much detail responding to comments that are likely on a few ignore lists anyway, but how can one company be legit and the other be a scam? From the press releases one can see that the merger took over 6 months. You'd think that would be enough time for the companies to vet each other, investigate finances, tech, etc, wouldn't you think?

You would...if said users were actually THINKING. Which they aren't, and which is why they show up as "This user is currently ignored" on most of our screens.

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It was only the wind.

Quote from: realcryptodisciple on November 22, 2015, 06:25:22 PM

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Quote from: secone on November 19, 2015, 02:47:30 AM

I think this is "joke coin"
Im never receive any giveaway from this coin

You weren't supposed to...they haven't given any away, yet.

And what happens to the value of this coin when they do start giving away millions of coins?

This coin has absolutely no investment value.

The available supply is 12,556,013 coins

The total supply is 452,556,013. When they start doing giveaways to merchants and new subscribers the available supply will increase diluting the current value even more.

Why would anyone buy this coin when the platform will allow them to use bitcoin, litecoin, dogecoin, credit cards but not ziftrcoin? You can only use ziftrcoin for 5% of purchases. The ziftr/gocoin merger might have merit and an actual use but this coin has nothing. It can't be spent even on the ziftr platform to purchase goods so this coin is pointless. It was a great way for them to raise over $400,000 but anyone that bought into it is underwater and they will never get their initial investment back.

They will be giving them away when you'll be able to redeem them for $1 using the ziftr platform. If you can't see how ziftr platform adds value to the coin I have to question your intellectual honesty with that claim.
For those looking to make a quick buck flipping shitcoins for profit maybe this isn't the coin that will satisfy your desires to make a quick buck. There is a lot of risk but there is also a lot of potential for ziftrcoin if they succeed.

They say they will be giving away 300 million coins. Dumping that many coins on the market will have negative effect on value. If they do giveaway they will increase available supply by 2380%. Why would anyone buy or mine this coin when they supposed to give/dump away 300 million?

In 2015, we will be giving away 300 million ziftrCOINs https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-ziftrcoin-presale-launched-894605 So they have less than two months to give away 300 million coins or what they said was a lie. Where is this giveaway? How does a person claim coins?

Stop saying coin is worth $1. It's like a coupon not a coin to spend on their platform. You can use 5% ziftr towards purchase. That means if item cost $20 you can use ziftr for $1. You still need spend $19 using fiat or bitcoin.

My intellectual honesty is intact. Yours is questionable. The only people making quick buck are those behind this coin by flipping this shitcoin at presale. There is no potential for this coin it has already failed. Ziftr has moved on to other things like the merger with GoCoin that has no benefit for this shitcoin.

The fact someone is paying some dude with a newbie account to FUD around here makes me want to mine more...

What do you dispute in my posts? I'm not paid from anyone. Mine ziftr if you think it's worth time and resource doing so. Please identify anything I've posted that incorrect. Thanks.

I'm not disputing anything. You're wasting your time here, which makes me wonder why...

Also, assuming it does launch and you can use it as a coupon on their platform, price will likely go up - then there's no limit to how much you can use Ziftr for, once the price is greater than or equal to $1.

You're just trying so damned hard.

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Quote from: FreeJack2k on December 10, 2015, 03:24:19 PM

There is mention of it, but I think it's safe to assume they don't call it by name because they'll end up re-branding it, to match up with GoCoin's brand. Since the combined company will continue operating as "GoCoin" I didn't really expect Ziftr's branding or naming to play heavily.

In case anyone missed it, when the press release says: "Ziftr's customer loyalty program," and "...incentivize their customers with a rewards system based on blockchain technology," they are referring to Ziftrcoin.

This is true and I'd say this sums it up fairly well.
I had nothing to do with the press release but I believe it's worded the way it is for both branding and legal reasons.

Also, I don't want to go into too much detail responding to comments that are likely on a few ignore lists anyway, but how can one company be legit and the other be a scam? From the press releases one can see that the merger took over 6 months. You'd think that would be enough time for the companies to vet each other, investigate finances, tech, etc, wouldn't you think?

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In case anyone missed it, when the press release says: "Ziftr's customer loyalty program," and "...incentivize their customers with a rewards system based on blockchain technology," they are referring to Ziftrcoin.

Why then they didn't call it so explicitly? To me what they are doing is lumping it together with

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Bitcoin and popular altcoins Litecoin, Dogecoin and Tether

, so it's not center stage anymore, and therefore they will not fulfill the promise they made to investors in the original project.

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It was only the wind.

Quote from: realcryptodisciple on November 22, 2015, 01:18:17 PM

Quote from: Liquid71 on November 21, 2015, 01:34:54 AM

Quote from: realcryptodisciple on November 19, 2015, 05:18:07 PM

Quote from: FreeJack2k on November 19, 2015, 04:50:55 PM

Quote from: secone on November 19, 2015, 02:47:30 AM

I think this is "joke coin"
Im never receive any giveaway from this coin

You weren't supposed to...they haven't given any away, yet.

And what happens to the value of this coin when they do start giving away millions of coins?

This coin has absolutely no investment value.

The available supply is 12,556,013 coins

The total supply is 452,556,013. When they start doing giveaways to merchants and new subscribers the available supply will increase diluting the current value even more.

Why would anyone buy this coin when the platform will allow them to use bitcoin, litecoin, dogecoin, credit cards but not ziftrcoin? You can only use ziftrcoin for 5% of purchases. The ziftr/gocoin merger might have merit and an actual use but this coin has nothing. It can't be spent even on the ziftr platform to purchase goods so this coin is pointless. It was a great way for them to raise over $400,000 but anyone that bought into it is underwater and they will never get their initial investment back.

They will be giving them away when you'll be able to redeem them for $1 using the ziftr platform. If you can't see how ziftr platform adds value to the coin I have to question your intellectual honesty with that claim.
For those looking to make a quick buck flipping shitcoins for profit maybe this isn't the coin that will satisfy your desires to make a quick buck. There is a lot of risk but there is also a lot of potential for ziftrcoin if they succeed.

They say they will be giving away 300 million coins. Dumping that many coins on the market will have negative effect on value. If they do giveaway they will increase available supply by 2380%. Why would anyone buy or mine this coin when they supposed to give/dump away 300 million?

In 2015, we will be giving away 300 million ziftrCOINs https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-ziftrcoin-presale-launched-894605 So they have less than two months to give away 300 million coins or what they said was a lie. Where is this giveaway? How does a person claim coins?

Stop saying coin is worth $1. It's like a coupon not a coin to spend on their platform. You can use 5% ziftr towards purchase. That means if item cost $20 you can use ziftr for $1. You still need spend $19 using fiat or bitcoin.

My intellectual honesty is intact. Yours is questionable. The only people making quick buck are those behind this coin by flipping this shitcoin at presale. There is no potential for this coin it has already failed. Ziftr has moved on to other things like the merger with GoCoin that has no benefit for this shitcoin.

The fact someone is paying some dude with a newbie account to FUD around here makes me want to mine more...

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Quote from: FreeJack2k on December 10, 2015, 03:24:19 PM

Quote from: Poly Coins on December 10, 2015, 02:15:51 PM

No mention on this PR about Ziftrcoin. Only Ziftr/Gocoin corporate shenanigans. Definitely, it seems these guys are letting the coin die a slow death while pocketing the IPO proceedings. To me, at this is point is Paycoin dejavu. Wish they can prove me wrong.

There is mention of it, but I think it's safe to assume they don't call it by name because they'll end up re-branding it, to match up with GoCoin's brand. Since the combined company will continue operating as "GoCoin" I didn't really expect Ziftr's branding or naming to play heavily.

In case anyone missed it, when the press release says: "Ziftr's customer loyalty program," and "...incentivize their customers with a rewards system based on blockchain technology," they are referring to Ziftrcoin.

Loyalty program is joke. Rewards system is joke.

ziftrcoin is worthless. It's not accepted as payment by gocoin payment processing. You will not be able to buy with ziftrcoin. It can be used only as coupon for small percent of purchase with merchants that decide to use loyalty program.

Read press release and tell where I am wrong.

gocoin is legitimate payment processor but ziftcoin just ico scam for easy money.

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Quote from: Poly Coins on December 10, 2015, 02:15:51 PM

No mention on this PR about Ziftrcoin. Only Ziftr/Gocoin corporate shenanigans. Definitely, it seems these guys are letting the coin die a slow death while pocketing the IPO proceedings. To me, at this is point is Paycoin dejavu. Wish they can prove me wrong.

There is mention of it, but I think it's safe to assume they don't call it by name because they'll end up re-branding it, to match up with GoCoin's brand. Since the combined company will continue operating as "GoCoin" I didn't really expect Ziftr's branding or naming to play heavily.

In case anyone missed it, when the press release says: "Ziftr's customer loyalty program," and "...incentivize their customers with a rewards system based on blockchain technology," they are referring to Ziftrcoin.

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Quote from: Poly Coins on December 10, 2015, 02:15:51 PM

No mention on this PR about Ziftrcoin. Only Ziftr/Gocoin corporate shenanigans. Definitely, it seems these guys are letting the coin die a slow death while pocketing the IPO proceedings. To me, at this is point is Paycoin dejavu. Wish they can prove me wrong.

You speak the truth. ziftrcoin was just more ipo scam to gain money for personal use.

Poly Coins

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No mention on this PR about Ziftrcoin. Only Ziftr/Gocoin corporate shenanigans. Definitely, it seems these guys are letting the coin die a slow death while pocketing the IPO proceedings. To me, at this is point is Paycoin dejavu. Wish they can prove me wrong.

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Congratulations on your successful MERGER with GoCoin!

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/gocoin-and-ziftrr-complete-merger-agreement-2080764.htm

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Quote from: shveicar on December 01, 2015, 05:26:17 AM

Invest only in the good coins without premine

Words of wisdom, why didn't I think this. Would of saved me a lot of monies. If I only new earlier that I should only invest in good coins.

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Quote from: shveicar on December 01, 2015, 05:26:17 AM

As you like the price of this dead ziftrcoin? Cool

But I warned people about this. Never buy coins marked ** or * marks as well and coins in black color on site http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/filter-non-mineable/
Invest only in the good coins without premine

Because no other crypto has ever gone down in price, right? Certainly not Bitcoin. Or Litecoin. Or, you know, pretty much all of them.

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DMD info: https://diamond-info.github.io/

As you like the price of this dead ziftrcoin? Cool

But I warned people about this. Never buy coins marked ** or * marks as well and coins in black color on site http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/filter-non-mineable/
Invest only in the good coins without premine

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