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Topic: [ANN][PIVX] - PRIVATE INSTANT VERIFIED TRANSACTION - PROOF OF STAKE - ZEROCOIN - page 114. (Read 782359 times)

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NEW PIVX WALLETS (MANDATORY UPDATE).

Please update your core PIVX wallets by August 21st, 2017. 

v2.3.0.  (binaries will be posted today)

Get Ready.
Stay Private.

We all know what's coming Wink
Does this release include the official zero coin implementation? How do I make use of the zero coin implementation with the new wallet?

It says nothing about Zerocoin in the release notes, this sounds more like a preparation release to handle new message types etc.
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NEW PIVX WALLETS (MANDATORY UPDATE).

Please update your core PIVX wallets by August 21st, 2017. 

v2.3.0.  (binaries will be posted today)

Get Ready.
Stay Private.

We all know what's coming Wink
Does this release include the official zero coin implementation? How do I make use of the zero coin implementation with the new wallet?
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NEW PIVX WALLETS (MANDATORY UPDATE).

Please update your core PIVX wallets by August 21st, 2017. 

v2.3.0.  (binaries will be posted today)

Get Ready.
Stay Private.

We all know what's coming Wink
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Stay Private My Friends.

https://youtu.be/k7ARPfLOy94


That was cool. Who is the PIVX guy in that video? Snappysnap?

Doesn't look like snappy.  Wonder who it could be?  Huh
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Maybe it is now a good time to enter on PIVX. Price is relatively if I want to build a masternode out of 10000 PIVX. Definitely it is worth a shot, with alt-coins are in red mode.
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Stay Private My Friends.

https://youtu.be/k7ARPfLOy94


That was cool. Who is the PIVX guy in that video? Is that Snappysnap?
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where is their information that explains how obfuscation works
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$PIVX is implementing the Zerocoin Protocol as promised. Better privacy coming soon check out the sneak peek by https://twitter.com/s3v3nh4cks on Slack $Crypto

http://imgur.com/a/76fwW


Awesome ! Can't wait to see the feature fully released ! Smiley
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$PIVX is implementing the Zerocoin Protocol as promised. Better privacy coming soon check out the sneak peek by https://twitter.com/s3v3nh4cks on Slack $Crypto

http://imgur.com/a/76fwW
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New updates from the PIVX community!

https://youtu.be/Kr-SMpkiRUk

6 core devs + more devs working on 3rd party applications (be it mobile wallets, Point of Sale, etc, etc).

Updates from the San Fran meetup

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good to hear some news about PIVX let's see if we can get a new ATH soon Smiley
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New updates from the PIVX community!

https://youtu.be/Kr-SMpkiRUk

6 core devs + more devs working on 3rd party applications (be it mobile wallets, Point of Sale, etc, etc).

Updates from the San Fran meetup

Smiley

cool!
thanks and keep it purple Snappy
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New updates from the PIVX community!

https://youtu.be/Kr-SMpkiRUk

6 core devs + more devs working on 3rd party applications (be it mobile wallets, Point of Sale, etc, etc).

Updates from the San Fran meetup

Smiley
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dont touch setup network structure or a direction is my only advice, get new release squared down perfect (take all the time in the world) testnet etc
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I hope we all agree to raise the blocksize as soon as it's become too crowded? like 80% full for 24 hours and then we double? With the mobile wallet who knows when we will need it.

Bigger block = higher price :: 92 % correlation.





and I add this very important quote :


A network is only as useful, and hence valuable, as the number of people who can use it. The transaction rate is the limit on that. More volume means more people means more money means higher price.



This is why to have a decreasing inflation is the best option for pivx. it permit new people to join our accounting network. And the more we are, the diversified the things we can trade among us, the more people come...

stay purple.

edit :  one last worth understanding.

There is no founded argument that increasing 7tps increasing the value.  Economics doesn't support it. 

This is the dumbest sentence I've ever seen on this forum.  The burden of proof isn't even on others to prove increasing throughput increases value, the burden of proof is actually on you to prove that bitcoin has any value whatsoever as a settlement network and that 4 TPS would somehow allow it to fill this role. 

I've already explained numerous times why bitcoin has zero value as a settlement layer:

1)  It has built-in rent seeking middlemen (transaction validators) and doesn't remove counter party risk since you're always relying on all kinds of external parties to facilitate transactions

2)  Alternatives already exist before the creation of bitcoin that are far superior for settlement such as gold and silver that actually do remove counter party risk and don't have built-in rent seeking middlemen

3)  Network effect assumes infinite scalability, which bitcoin doesn't have.  Trying to force everyone onto a highly scaling constrained system with giant fees is a pro-usury stance

4)  Due to the above , bitcoin has a reverse Schelling point where there's huge incentive to fork or use a different system rather than pay extortion usury fees.  Low scaling = inveitable rough consensus attack/split.

5)  Bitcoin is a currency and not money.  The value of a currency is entirely based on transaction flow, not stock (how much commerce it can facilitate by scaling)


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this isn't a rational expectation.

Mostly agreed, but the incentive would be that keeping the supply as low as possible would (theoretically) bolster the price of a single PIV, offsetting the cost of the fee itself. I guess we'd have to know the actual numbers at play to get an idea if that's real-world possible or just theoretical.


Don't particularly need numbers at play... just a basic Price = Market Cap / Coin Supply

Going to use big numbers just to illustrate how it's a significant net negative to the individual

Let's say someone paid a 1 million PIVX fee.  They would drop the supply by 1 million, approx increasing the value of PIVX by 2% (1million fee burnt/50ish million coin supply).

Increasing the value by 2% isn't close to being worth paying 1 million PIVX.

Yes, obviously no one would pay a 1 million fee (for illustration purposes only), but the same proportion of negative user impact:supply burnt would apply to any amount of fee spent.

You don't need to appeal to a community to act irrationally when organic growth will take care of business in due time.
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this isn't a rational expectation.

Mostly agreed, but the incentive would be that keeping the supply as low as possible would (theoretically) bolster the price of a single PIV, offsetting the cost of the fee itself. I guess we'd have to know the actual numbers at play to get an idea if that's real-world possible or just theoretical.
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