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Topic: [ANN][POOL] Alpereum - Professional Ether Pool [0% FEE] [VARDIFF] - page 3. (Read 11943 times)

newbie
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I just joined forum to support @AlainC findings. Same here bro. Alpereum, you call yourself professional ehter pool, but things last two days don't show that. Every production need backup servers and even backup need backup in situation like this. Five days with you and I see why some people just quit mining when they start with wrong pool. Earnings are not great at all, just from my test from other pools i got 0,04-0,05 every day, here i have 0,03 if pool don't have issues.

Like AlainC said, maybe loosing 0.12 (my case) that i have with them is good thing, or I can say mining life lesson.
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
This is my first time mining ETH. I am almost to the minimum payout threshold. Now all the stats are down and no updates from the admins... Is this the norm for this pool?
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
supervision seems against out.
pool accept shares but I see nothing since 1h
my payout since friday 2:00GMT (Edit: I put a mixed case address, corrected later, so I add both to be exact), 58h after, is 0.071 while it should be 0.12 at 85MH/S
it was 0.056 yesterday evening at 22:00GMT after 42h instead of 0.0875... estimated 15 hours lost.
waiting for .2 payout... hope just it won't last a week instead of 2.5days.
EDIT: just seing supervision back at 0.081 after 58h (instead of 0.12), estimated 19hours lost
 Angry

I know my rig who with many watchdogs and alarms is not out for more than 15, and not without warnings. I see on worker console that my miner was out, at time it was working hard...
started friday 2:11 (GMT)
saturday
01:43-5:01 OUT with few minutes working at 02:30 and 03:30-03:42  (3:18 out)
10:18-16:13 OUT (5:55 out)
sunday
05:47-06:51 OUT (1:04 out)
13:08-13:59 OUT (0:51 out)

total out : 8h
maybe I lost also 6h when starting (it's the rule), because first block mined was 6 hours after I moved (we are paid only after a block is mined)

except saturday at 13:37-16:10 (2:27 off) there was no sign of dysfunction.
If I was paranoid I would say my shares were taken for free, but I estimate they just screwed up something. will they repair?
Angry


EDIT: 13:52 GMT, supervision is out. me too. I abandon my earnings.

newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
is that normal the stats are not working anymore?
Seems all pools are down . Socket closed by servers. Eu asia pool...
Seems just now useast back...
Edit: in fact all down.
EDIT2: incident ("Socket was closed remotely (by pool)", no share accepted)  from my point of view (logs) started at 13:37 GMT (2017/06/10) and ended at 16:10 GMT. can someone else confirm?

Response from Zach. Sounds like they are not paying out for the down time. Only 5 Blocks found in last 24 hours.

"Hello,

The pool experienced an outage last night into the morning for several hours (Zurich Time). The outage was network related in the data center hosting our main database. The issue has been fixed and we are closely monitoring the situation. We apologize for any inconvenience this may of caused.

Regards,
The Alpereum Team"



Every thread mentioning these guys is somewhat negative.

Edit:

This too
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/pools/alpereum/#/reviews

Edit2:

Also interesting how this "data center outage" happens at the same time they implement a pool fee of .2% and remove vardiff while doing some redirecting
"We’ve removed VARDIFF altogether, and the 4000 ports that worked on VARDIFF will now redirect your miner automatically to port 3002."
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
is that normal the stats are not working anymore?
Seems all pools are down . Socket closed by servers. Eu asia pool...
Seems just now useast back...
Edit: in fact all down.
EDIT2: incident ("Socket was closed remotely (by pool)", no share accepted)  from my point of view (logs) started at 13:37 GMT (2017/06/10) and ended at 16:10 GMT. can someone else confirm?
newbie
Activity: 69
Merit: 0
is that normal the stats are not working anymore?
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Sigh, nevermind41... Alpereum does periodically add those missed blocks, just like every other pool.  Again... this happens with every pool you complete noob.  You're calling a pool a scam based on 14 hours of mining profitability - that's nothing short of stupidity.  I mean, you're still talking about sammy's terrible single-node "pool" solution that adds a solid 30ms+ latency to everything... nasty.

Etheremine thread (several posts from dr_pra about missed blocks being added later, also see etherpool thread):
https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/5532/ethermine-org-the-fastest-way-to-mine-ether/p25

MPH: https://twitter.com/MiningPoolHub/status/802079757823160320
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18176471 (several missed blocks just a few days ago)
And there are a few more examples in their ethereum forum thread about missed blocks they credited later.

etc... lots of examples from other pools too.

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Every pool software put the block details auto to its stats page.
Right... and there are various things required before a low enough share is listed as a block.  It's far from uncommon (every ethereum pool I know of has expereinced this at some point at least), to occationally miss recording listing blocks/rewards but get them included in the network.  Other pools have definitely talked about "re-scanning" to detect those "missed blocks" too.

If you think any of this is unique to alpereum, you must be a straight up troll.  Go actually learns something about the technicals behind mining.

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By the way, this is the reply of my message from alpereum
So, support replied to you with an explanation, said they would credit the missed amounts soon, and you called them a scam on a forum thread they don't read/respond to.  Got it... good job troll.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
That's what happens with a prop pool with pool hopper sigh... it's pretty simple. You get paid a smaller portion of short rounds because there are so much more hashrate, and you get paid a larger portion of longer rounds because there is less average hashrate. Long rounds also end up being naturally much longer on average, but you still earn a fair portion of your hash contribution.

Every pool misses recording found blocks sometimes - plenty of history of this for every eth pool actually - but alpereum is excellent at catching them later and they always pay out the appropriate reward.

You use the savagely shitty software by sammy? Shit man. The latency you pick up from that shitty pool code is stupid.

Anyway, doesn't sound like you've mined long enough to have meaninful stats. Nor I presume did you bother to send alp a support message about the missed block you noticed. I mean, you actually used whattomine as a reference point lol.

I would encourage you to learn a hell of a lot more about the internals of mining before you throw nonsense scam accusations around.
859.0 MH/s 801.0 MH/s 310.0 MH/s Unpaid Balance 0.70519 ETH 9 hours 45 min.
Alpereum    0.7219574402954706 ETH 14+ hours
Every pool software put the block details auto to its stats page. Sammy's pool software can do it easily. I mined etc and eth many times with it. I test it and it works great. Before writing comment about people you must have something to show it. You just write here without any information or example. But I put many info and details in here. I said the same things like other people in this thread. If you don't have any arguments, please don't write any comment to my message.
By the way, this is the reply of my message from alpereum
Hello,

We are aware of the issue, it happened when we were working on updating a system that was faulty. The blocks will be recalculated into the payout soon. Expect an official statement soon.

If somebody saw theeir scam, their mesages are ready but they still don't do anything. As you see your messages are full with shits not other people like you.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
That's what happens with a prop pool with pool hopper sigh... it's pretty simple. You get paid a smaller portion of short rounds because there are so much more hashrate, and you get paid a larger portion of longer rounds because there is less average hashrate. Long rounds also end up being naturally much longer on average, but you still earn a fair portion of your hash contribution.

Every pool misses recording found blocks sometimes - plenty of history of this for every eth pool actually - but alpereum is excellent at catching them later and they always pay out the appropriate reward.

You use the savagely shitty software by sammy? Shit man. The latency you pick up from that shitty pool code is stupid.

Anyway, doesn't sound like you've mined long enough to have meaninful stats. Nor I presume did you bother to send alp a support message about the missed block you noticed. I mean, you actually used whattomine as a reference point lol.

I would encourage you to learn a hell of a lot more about the internals of mining before you throw nonsense scam accusations around.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Nevermind41 it's called variance and a proportional payout system. I am quite sure Alpereum is not stealing anything...

The pool hashrate goes up whenever a block is found because miners are pool hopping to try to get in on short rounds.  If the block takes too long to find, pool hash drops to ~100GH/s right now (the non-pool-hopping-miners).

There are no issues here unless you want Alp to switch to PPLNS or similar payout system.
With over 100 % pool luck I lost more then 35 % with 864 mh. If you check the screenshot that I sent in my message, you can see the mined block differences between pool statistic and etherscan. Pool hashrate increase over 100 % after block found. This is not an ordinary thing. Other people also said the same thing. I use freeware sammy ethereum pool software and I couldn't understand how mined block stats can be wrong in a prof. pool software. I never see such a problem in a freeware software. They put the mined block details manually. I am sure they also mine to a different address too because I live many connection lost and hash drops too. They are professional thief. Check the previous messages. You can see the same problems....
 I am mining in different pool and its luck is less then alpereum but I got more ethereum in 9 hour.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Nevermind41 it's called variance and a proportional payout system. I am quite sure Alpereum is not stealing anything...

The pool hashrate goes up whenever a block is found because miners are pool hopping to try to get in on short rounds.  If the block takes too long to find, pool hash drops to ~100GH/s right now (the non-pool-hopping-miners).

There are no issues here unless you want Alp to switch to PPLNS or similar payout system.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100

As you see  mined blocks different between etherchain and alpereum stats pages. This is only possible if you put the values to the stats page manually. All pool softwares make this stats auto and without any error. when you distribute the block rewards your pool hashrate increase above 100 % ...  many hours without block.... You are thief....
I have 864 mh hashrate. Whattomine shows 1.931706 ether a day. I mined more then 14 hours in alpereum and I got 0.683 ether. You stole too much.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
I really want to know how it is possible. Please can you explain me. When the pool found the block, pool hashrate was under 100 gh. But a few seconds later pool hashrate increase above 100 % and block reward distributed from high hashrate. And also I  see many fault in statistic pages. They don't pair with etherchain. ith 100 gh pool couldn't find any block many hours. I know what is the meaning of this issues but if you have an explanation I want to know.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
very steal pool

Real hashrate ~ twice smaller. check it https://etherchain.org/statistics/miners (48gh) and https://www.alpereum.ch/statistics/ (106gh)

Count block of days does not correspond to the speeds indicated on the pool https://etherchain.org/account/0x6c7f03ddfdd8a37ca267c88630a4fee958591de0#blocks

20-30 blocks/day is not 100gh pool

shitpool
full member
Activity: 220
Merit: 100
Can anyone tell me why my balance is still zero after two days?  I realize my hashate is low and was really low for the first day, but it's been about 16 mh/s at least since last night, and my balance is still zero.
https://www.alpereum.ch/worker/?address=0x5055366CFda61a6a1a57154545d0039755a89E5a
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1076
A humble Siberian miner
Well, I'll try this pool.  Cool
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
Is the pool ok? been 15hours since the last payment.
nvm paid.
copper member
Activity: 64
Merit: 36
Hows things working out on this pool did you get though the hash rate problems?  Been looking though seeing problems but now resolved. Also do you guys consider to be having Ethereum Classic pool too ?

Crazyearner,

We are not quite sure by what you mean when you state "hashrate problems". We have many successful miners that are pleased with our pool.

We have zero intentions of hosting an Ethereum Classic pool. We proudly support the hardfork decision.


Does any1 know how long does it last till a worker appears in stats? Huh Definately not in 30 min as described in the faq of the pool. Any experience?

un4given,

Your mining software may not be setup properly, please submit a support ticket on our website or email [email protected] and we will assist you.

/The Alpereum Team
Swiss Crypto Mining & Mining Pools



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