Topic: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin. - page 265. (Read 487870 times)

Exchange site's fee is applied.
autoexchange 0.2% includes withdrawal tx fee from miningpoolhub.

miningpoolhub uses PPLNS.



N is dynamic value gathered average of last few blocks.
It is sum of total shares that will be calculated for certain block. It is not related to difficulty actually.

You would find more info from http://give-me-coins.com/support/faq/what-is-pplns/

Yeah you should get more when difficulty is low. PPLNS works as expected, in common sense.
It's the most smart way to distribute rewards these days.

I don't know. That's not official miningpoolhub miner.

Maybe aaronsace (original author) inserted some donation mining time I think.

withdrawal costs 0.0004BTC . You can count it as a fee, because it's relatively expensive. If you withdraw 0.04 BTC it is like an additional 1% fee. 0.0004/0.04=0.01

Zcash withdrawal is much cheaper. I would withdraw Zcash to Poloniex and exchange it there for Bitcoin if you need to sell it for dollars. Polo's BTC withdrawal fee is only a quarter of MPH's.

How economical is to set auto exchange of ZEC to BTC?
Apart from pool fee of 0.9% and autoexcghange fee of  0.2% are there any other fees applied?
Thanks.

Multipoolminer was created by user aaronsace not MPH. He is just an avid MPH user who wanted to mine on a profitability switch that took the users hash rate into account, so he created his own miner. He would have to tell you why he named it what he did... I believe he did say that a future version might be usable on other pools, at least if people showed interest for that.

Go to your stats folder and find the files that look like this: Reorder_Skein_HashRate, basically any that end with hashrate. Delete any hashrate file/algo that does not show up when mining, so it can rebenchmark them. I know when I ran the miner the first time my firewall block half the miners from the start and I needed to rebenchmark half the algos so they would work; however ethereum is currently one of the most profitable pools to mine on at MPH so it will go to the top often.

The miner should not be rebenchmarking upon every startup. Remove nvidia from the start bat that could be why it tries to benchmark during start up. Also do you normally cpu mine and gpu mine at the same time? If you do not also remove cpu.

I find it very strange. It seems that every time I use multipool miner it does it's own benchmark.

Then irrelevant of the benchmark result it will try to use dual claymore ethereum sia

powershell -version 5.0 -noexit -executionpolicy bypass -windowstyle maximized -command "&.\multipoolminer.ps1 -username pornluver -workername multipoolminer -interval 60 -location europe -ssl -type amd,nvidia,cpu -algorithm cryptonight,ethash,equihash,lyra2z -poolname miningpoolhub -currency btc,usd -donate 0

   Type: {AMD, NVIDIA}

Miner          Algorithm                         Speed            BTC/Day         BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----          ---------                         -----            -------         ---------- ----
ClaymoreDual40 {Ethash, Sia} {24.78 MH/s, 495.71 MH/s} {0.00258, 0.00024} {0.10395, 0.00047} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
ClaymoreDual30 {Ethash, Sia} {24.49 MH/s, 367.44 MH/s} {0.00255, 0.00017} {0.10395, 0.00047} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
Claymore       Ethash                       24.82 MH/s            0.00258            0.10395 MiningPoolHub-Ethereum
ClaymoreDual20 {Ethash, Sia} {18.51 MH/s, 185.12 MH/s} {0.00192, 0.00009} {0.10395, 0.00047} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}


   Type: AMD

Miner    Algorithm         Speed BTC/Day  BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----    ---------         ----- -------  ---------- ----
Sgminer  Ethash       23.50 MH/s 0.00244     0.10395 MiningPoolHub-Ethereum
Claymore Equihash    303.00  H/s 0.00221 7,282.70784 MiningPoolHub-Zcash
Sgminer  Cryptonight 682.30  H/s 0.00168 2,460.47210 MiningPoolHub-Monero
Claymore Cryptonight 644.00  H/s 0.00158 2,460.47210 MiningPoolHub-Monero
Sgminer  Equihash    212.60  H/s 0.00155 7,282.70784 MiningPoolHub-Zcash




   Status: Running

                    Speed Active                      Launched Command
                    ----- ------                      -------- -------
              152.17 KH/s 00 Days 00 Hours 10 Minutes Once     Bin\Lyra2z-CPU\cpuminer.exe -a lyra2z -o stratum+tcp://europe.lyra2z-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17025 -u
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -p x
{27.88 MH/s, 557.66 MH/s} 00 Days 00 Hours 10 Minutes Once     Bin\Ethash-Claymore\EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool europe.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -dpool hub.miningpoolhub.com:17022 -dwal
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -dpsw x -dcoin sc -dcri 40


MultiPoolMiner is 0% more profitable than conventional mining!

Miner                                              btc     usd
-----                                              ---     ---
MultiPoolMiner                                     0.00317 3.05962
{ClaymoreDual40-Ethash/Sia, CpuminerLyra2z-Lyra2z} 0.00316 3.04844

See there is a writing that multipoolminer is 0% (sometimes 2%) more profitable than Claymore. And yet the program run Bin\Ethash-Claymore nevertheless.

How do I change -algorithm cryptonight,ethash,equihash,lyra2z so that multipoolminer would seek more algorithm

Also why you name the software multipoolminer? I mean your site is miningpoolhub.com Is this related to multipoolminer.com or what?

So you are using PPLNS

What is N?

Is it constant no matter what difficulty is or is it always 1/2difficulty?

In other word do we get more share if we mine when difficulty is low (as it should be?)

Why repeats username.workername-worker username.workername ??

miningpool charge a small fee of .9%. It doesn't use pay per share but something else.

Where can I learn more about that something else

Does multipoolminer have any fee now?
Because sometimes my ethereum miner restarts with user aaronsace.multipoolminer, works, then close and continues with my user.worker.
What it means?

Just remove options after -dpool

- To mine ethereum
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1

- To mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1

Thanks.

Yeah. There's no luck like thing in miningpoolhub formula. Overall statistics, plain math is included.

Only eth because other currencies together increases energy consumption
I want to mine eth

Wow. So miningpoolhub is more accurate then. You don't take into account miningpoolhub "luck" right? You just take into account current difficulty and price and that's it and current.

Usage example.

- To mine ethereum and Siacoin concurrently
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


- Mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port. If you mine ETC, you need to add "-allcoins 1" option due to claymore devfee DAG issue.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


Thanks.

You will get appropriate rewards. You may miss some round sometimes because of PPLNS, but it will be covered by other lucky rounds.

But... that's just theory. It could be different in reality because pool luck fluctuates much at small pools like Monero.
Vertcoin and Ethereum seems fine.

Yeah luck is included.
But it seems a bit different what we are talking about. The luck that miningpoolhub concerns is overall all time luck. It is nearly 95~105% like thing so it doesn't fluctuate.
This is included because some coins which have PoS, does not work ideally to PoW difficulty target. As PoS blocks intercept continually their PoW block finding may be a bit different from normal formula in theory.
Also block finding probability can be dependant on block time length. Some fast coins have network overhead and it will introduce some bad luck also.
So this luck is included to reflect real world.

Pool does not have some smart way to predict price and difficulty. Usually that strategy will not work better than fast following current situation.

whattomine shows 7day average.
miningpoolhub shows current realtime profitability which makes things different each other.

First... it's not multipoolhub. It's miningpoolhub.  

BTC/Gh/Day is computed by target (difficulty level thing) which is provided from wallet itself.
I think you can find the formula from website.

miningpoolhub is not vulnerable to pool hoping because pool uses pplns. I suggest you to try if you want.

There's two reasons.

1. historical reason about error correction.
At early days of ethereum mining, eth-proxy tool was the de-facto mandatory thing at mining.
Everyone used that proxy tool to mine because it was efficient than direct rpc port mining. But eth-proxy was not ideal still which used local polling with 2 seconds interval.

This lead to nearly 10% difference between actual pool hashrate and miner's hashrate.
So submitted share's hashrate was 20Mh at pool, but actual miner's console output was 22Mh.
That difference was about 9~11%.
Pool had to use some error correction to match their hashrate at that time. Most pool applied it also AFAIK.
miningpoolhub also announced about error correction and underlying reasons about it about one year ago.

Time has passed and things are resolved as most miners are using stratum protocol now.
This is why most miners are seeing 10% increase of their hashrate at pool. Also their actual daily earning estimate is +10% of what Pool page shows.
I may announce to removing error correction one day, but hesitated to apply it because it's related to statistics.
Miner would see drastic difference at block page and they will say that pool's luck had dropped much.
Yeah, someday I'll apply it.

So this tells that 88% is actually near 98%.


2. Ethereum's uncle block.
Ethereum's expected block finding is quite different in reality because of uncle blocks.
Pool find more than expected because ethereum confirms even late shares as well.

Instead of 5ETH, there's some blocks with lower reward blocks. It's about 4~15% of total blocks.
You can see uncle rate from here.
https://etherchain.org/statistics/miners

As miningpoolhub generates even with 6-level late shares, I believe miningpoolhub is one of the good pools generating uncle blocks.
Higher uncle rate is not bad. It means something is wrong when uncle rate is too high but it also means that pool found more blocks that could be lost.
I think it's okay when uncle rate is under 15%.

Anyway, this uncle block thing is making statistics as a bit lucky because it only counts block numbers. It doesn't care about whether it's uncle or not.




I hope I explained all in detail.
Don't hesitate if you have questions still.
Thanks.