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Topic: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows - page 98. (Read 347337 times)

newbie
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Not sure if this has been reported or not but a lot of people can't change there auto payment address since it is still showing the hackers address.

Shame it happened really hope you guys/girls are not working to much over xmas.



I'm pretty sure I read earlier that in addition to login being disabled auto-payouts are also disabled...
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Like two posts above.... Logging in is disabled. Site is in read only mode. You cannot do anything right now. They locked down the site for the time being until they can figure this shit out after Christmas. Let them spend a day with family. Your coins aren't going anywhere now (well, except for the ones that were already stolen).
full member
Activity: 155
Merit: 100
I can't even log in. It appears as if the page is just refreshing when I try.

Anyone else have this?

I am having the same issue.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
I can't even log in. It appears as if the page is just refreshing when I try.

Anyone else have this?
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Not sure if this has been reported or not but a lot of people can't change there auto payment address since it is still showing the hackers address.

Shame it happened really hope you guys/girls are not working to much over xmas.

member
Activity: 224
Merit: 10
I am not sure if this has been answered or not (if so, please forgive me).  Has the login been disabled too?  I can not log in to check my account.

Thanks

yes
jr. member
Activity: 37
Merit: 1
I am not sure if this has been answered or not (if so, please forgive me).  Has the login been disabled too?  I can not log in to check my account.

Thanks
member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
Maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but I don't see why people would "hold" a balance in a pool that charges fees as a percentage longer than a day anyway. In the case of hashcows and converting directly to BTC, it's 2.5% fee. So regardless of whether "hold out" your auto-pay to cash out @ 100 BTC, or 0.01 BTC the percentage of fees to payout is the same. I don't see any benefit to holding any BTC in the pool account.

On pools that charge a flat fee per payout, I might could understand as fewer payouts would mean less fees taken from your mining efforts...

Its called "laziness". It is in the dictionary and it is something, for what can everyone take "free" lesson  Cool

I don't understand. On one hand you reply to my suggestion that the theft could have been lessened by an AUTOMATED system having been in place that could flag abnormal withdraw activity quickly (such as every single user sending all of their coins to one single address) with "OMG its Christmas".

In fact, this was your response to pretty much everything. You assume that such a system would have to be manned at all hours of the day, and the holidays would keep them from implementing it. I said they should have had a similar system already in place BEFORE nearly every single user coin was stolen....Which would mean that they should have had it in place well before "OMG it's Christmas."

But then your most recent reply to people not cashing out timely enough for your liking is due to "laziness". Maybe they didn't withdraw in the last few days because of "OMG it's Christmas".

I'm with you on this one (as well as the logic in your previous point).

YES it's Christmas and YES Bitcoin is risky and this is 'the wild west of technology', but I would be willing to bet if a bank or someone holding your money in the wild west got broken/sick/damaged or otherwise somehow loses it, they'll be paying with their arms and legs, or their life. Yeehaw! I obviously do not wish anything like that on the HC admins, but the idea of 0% pool fees for everyone who lost coins, until the amount of 'fees' per person adds up to what they lost is a good idea for appeasing miners...


Also, anyone who doesn't feel ENTITLED to some type reimbursement - why the hell not? Why do you NOT want to put pressure on the host administrators or impose some sort of 'punishment' (aka reimbursement) for something 100% their fault? Jeez you guys must have not lost very much, or simply don't care.. If I neglect my child and he dies in a hot car on a summer's day, (it was an accident I swear!), and I promise it will never happen again, should I go without any punishment?
sr. member
Activity: 259
Merit: 250
Thanks to all those replying, positive and negative.  We appreciate everyone who's mined at hashcows in the past, and any who continue to mine or are willing to give us another shot in the future.  Unfortunately I don't have much of an update for you.  I imagine like most, my Christmas eve is filled with family obligations, as is tomorrow.   I had enough time to disable all payouts, and throw the web into a read-only state to prevent any further damage, however it will likely be Thursday when I have the time to properly diagnose root cause and provide a technical update on the current situation.

Mining remains up, mainly as a courtesy to those who may not be actively monitoring their rigs over the holidays/and or have a failover set.  Coins are being earned, traded, and stats updating, as usual, but payouts of any kind remain disabled.  Until proper investigation is complete.

My question at this point is whether or not you are planning to reimburse members for lost funds, being that they were lost due to something we had no control over server-side. If you end up doing this, you will get a huge +1 from me and will have regained my trust.

My question at this point is how dense are you people?  First priority is securing the pool.  Second priority for the pool owners would be trying to figure out how to appease people crying about their coins.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
I can't login to check if I lost any coin as my login is being rejected and I read earlier that logins had been disabled so how do all these people saying "I lost xBTC" know the amount?
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Is there any recourse for those who had coins stolen? Or should we assume we will never see them again? Sucks... I lost 0.09 BTC and my payout was set to 0.1 Sad
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Thanks to all those replying, positive and negative.  We appreciate everyone who's mined at hashcows in the past, and any who continue to mine or are willing to give us another shot in the future.  Unfortunately I don't have much of an update for you.  I imagine like most, my Christmas eve is filled with family obligations, as is tomorrow.   I had enough time to disable all payouts, and throw the web into a read-only state to prevent any further damage, however it will likely be Thursday when I have the time to properly diagnose root cause and provide a technical update on the current situation.

Mining remains up, mainly as a courtesy to those who may not be actively monitoring their rigs over the holidays/and or have a failover set.  Coins are being earned, traded, and stats updating, as usual, but payouts of any kind remain disabled.  Until proper investigation is complete.

My question at this point is whether or not you are planning to reimburse members for lost funds, being that they were lost due to something we had no control over server-side. If you end up doing this, you will get a huge +1 from me and will have regained my trust.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 263
let's make a deal.
thanks nearmiss.  you deserve a break.  happy christmas.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Thanks to all those replying, positive and negative.  We appreciate everyone who's mined at hashcows in the past, and any who continue to mine or are willing to give us another shot in the future.  Unfortunately I don't have much of an update for you.  I imagine like most, my Christmas eve is filled with family obligations, as is tomorrow.   I had enough time to disable all payouts, and throw the web into a read-only state to prevent any further damage, however it will likely be Thursday when I have the time to properly diagnose root cause and provide a technical update on the current situation.

Mining remains up, mainly as a courtesy to those who may not be actively monitoring their rigs over the holidays/and or have a failover set.  Coins are being earned, traded, and stats updating, as usual, but payouts of any kind remain disabled.  Until proper investigation is complete.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I´ve got a picture! Haha!
Maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but I don't see why people would "hold" a balance in a pool that charges fees as a percentage longer than a day anyway. In the case of hashcows and converting directly to BTC, it's 2.5% fee. So regardless of whether "hold out" your auto-pay to cash out @ 100 BTC, or 0.01 BTC the percentage of fees to payout is the same. I don't see any benefit to holding any BTC in the pool account.

On pools that charge a flat fee per payout, I might could understand as fewer payouts would mean less fees taken from your mining efforts...

Its called "laziness". It is in the dictionary and it is something, for what can everyone take "free" lesson  Cool

I don't understand. On one hand you reply to my suggestion that the theft could have been lessened by an AUTOMATED system having been in place that could flag abnormal withdraw activity quickly (such as every single user sending all of their coins to one single address) with "OMG its Christmas".

In fact, this was your response to pretty much everything. You assume that such a system would have to be manned at all hours of the day, and the holidays would keep them from implementing it. I said they should have had a similar system already in place BEFORE nearly every single user coin was stolen....Which would mean that they should have had it in place well before "OMG it's Christmas."

But then your most recent reply to people not cashing out timely enough for your liking is due to "laziness". Maybe they didn't withdraw in the last few days because of "OMG it's Christmas".

Maybe that security hole has been known long time ago by attackers, and because they are abject shitfucks which don´t have any better things to do on christmas, they attacked now. Whatever.. Read my posts again if U misunderstood anything - I just want to say that aTriz and nearmiss are the good ones and its up to everyone to ensure safety of theirs coins. HAWK! And merry CHristass to everyone. Its 3:30 AM here so I am going to sleep
hero member
Activity: 710
Merit: 502
Maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but I don't see why people would "hold" a balance in a pool that charges fees as a percentage longer than a day anyway. In the case of hashcows and converting directly to BTC, it's 2.5% fee. So regardless of whether "hold out" your auto-pay to cash out @ 100 BTC, or 0.01 BTC the percentage of fees to payout is the same. I don't see any benefit to holding any BTC in the pool account.

On pools that charge a flat fee per payout, I might could understand as fewer payouts would mean less fees taken from your mining efforts...

I guess that the main reason is to prevent BTC dust, i mean, small payments that generates a lot of space and when you need to send them , the cost in fees are so f$&ing high that makes no sense.
I set a daily payout of .05 which is enough for my hashrate (10 x 7950) to receive daily payment (except today hehe)

but yes, keep like I read 3 pages behind, 0.5 BTC here, is crazy!, I will not left more than .1 btc in ANY pool, no matter the security, you know SHIT HAPPENS, I have been hacked before!, and I am pretty damn good at my job (IT) , but the guy that hacked me, was a king!, I learn so much buy investigating what he have done!, a genius!, what i mean is, HC crew can learn a lot from this, of course, shitty time! xmas ZOMG! indeed!, but hey, there is no safe!, no warranties, we must be always vigilant.

I bet HC crew will figure it out and fix it in no time, in the meantime I switched to middlecoin, but I will be coming back as soon as they remove the withdraw restriction.
EDIT: to the mods, something easy you could do, when someone change the payout address, compare it with the entire userbase, if you see more than three users with the same payout address, there is something going on, and freeze that address payout until you can clear it out, that should be easy to stop this kind of theft i think.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but I don't see why people would "hold" a balance in a pool that charges fees as a percentage longer than a day anyway. In the case of hashcows and converting directly to BTC, it's 2.5% fee. So regardless of whether "hold out" your auto-pay to cash out @ 100 BTC, or 0.01 BTC the percentage of fees to payout is the same. I don't see any benefit to holding any BTC in the pool account.

On pools that charge a flat fee per payout, I might could understand as fewer payouts would mean less fees taken from your mining efforts...

Its called "laziness". It is in the dictionary and it is something, for what can everyone take "free" lesson  Cool

I don't understand. On one hand you reply to my suggestion that the theft could have been lessened by an AUTOMATED system having been in place that could flag abnormal withdraw activity quickly (such as every single user sending all of their coins to one single address) with "OMG its Christmas".

In fact, this was your response to pretty much everything. You assume that such a system would have to be manned at all hours of the day, and the holidays would keep them from implementing it. I said they should have had a similar system already in place BEFORE nearly every single user coin was stolen....Which would mean that they should have had it in place well before "OMG it's Christmas."

But then your most recent reply to people not cashing out timely enough for your liking is due to "laziness". Maybe they didn't withdraw in the last few days because of "OMG it's Christmas".
hero member
Activity: 735
Merit: 501
I haven't been mining at Hashco.ws as of late, but I am very sorry to hear this happened to users.
You have to keep in mind as bad as this is for the users who lost money, aTriz and Nearmiss (Hashcows)
have been affected just as badly.  Losing trust in a userbase is often more damaging than losing money,
and trust is harder to gain back.

Please show them some patience and understanding. 
sr. member
Activity: 259
Merit: 250
Again, as someone who's been through similar situations on other pools, I would recommend chilling the fuck out.  I've seen both scenarios play out.  I've seen pool operators refund loses, and I've also seen pool operators basically say fuck off (notroll.in anybody?).

Let's try to remember a couple of things here:

1. You're in the wild west of technology.  If you want insurance sell me your 7950's and take the money to a FDIC insured bank.
2. hashco.ws provides you a service for almost free.  I assure you their fees aren't making them rich.
3. Chill the fuck out.  They haven't even said a word yet and demands are already being made by you fucks.

I've got about 0.1 BTC that didn't get cleaned out.  If it had been I wouldn't be approaching this any differently.  Why?  I've already lost more in similar incidents.  So, whatever happens.. good, bad, ugly.. the pool operators are humans, and trying their best to make it right until proven otherwise.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I´ve got a picture! Haha!
Maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but I don't see why people would "hold" a balance in a pool that charges fees as a percentage longer than a day anyway. In the case of hashcows and converting directly to BTC, it's 2.5% fee. So regardless of whether "hold out" your auto-pay to cash out @ 100 BTC, or 0.01 BTC the percentage of fees to payout is the same. I don't see any benefit to holding any BTC in the pool account.

On pools that charge a flat fee per payout, I might could understand as fewer payouts would mean less fees taken from your mining efforts...

Its called "laziness". It is in the dictionary and it is something, for what can everyone take "free" lesson  Cool
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