Topic: [ANN][rICO]Antshares Blockchain Mainnet is ONLINE! - page 21. (Read 1300578 times)
If I have ANS on bittrex and then I move it to my own wallet. Will the ANS generated on bittrex be mine? or will I only start accumulating AFTER moving out of bittrex?
I just wanna make sure:
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
Entirely correct. It is all about ownership of ANS/NEO, not the actual running of the wallet. Only those who leave their ANS/NEO at Bittrex will lose out as then Bittrex claims it as its own.
Of course those who have 10,000+ ANS/NEO and decide to set up a bookkeeping node can earn network fees on top of that, but in that last instance, the node should be kept running.
A bookkeeping mode with 10,000 Ans.
Do you know where I can find more about this?
https://github.com/AntShares/AntShares/wiki/Bookkeeping-Node-Deployment
I just wanna make sure:
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
Entirely correct. It is all about ownership of ANS/NEO, not the actual running of the wallet. Only those who leave their ANS/NEO at Bittrex will lose out as then Bittrex claims it as its own.
Of course those who have 10,000+ ANS/NEO and decide to set up a bookkeeping node can earn network fees on top of that, but in that last instance, the node should be kept running.
A bookkeeping mode with 10,000 Ans.
Do you know where I can find more about this?
I just wanna make sure:
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
Entirely correct. It is all about ownership of ANS/NEO, not the actual running of the wallet. Only those who leave their ANS/NEO at Bittrex will lose out as then Bittrex claims it as its own.
Of course those who have 10,000+ ANS/NEO and decide to set up a bookkeeping node can earn network fees on top of that, but in that last instance, the node should be kept running.
OK thank you
I just wanna make sure:
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
Entirely correct. It is all about ownership of ANS/NEO, not the actual running of the wallet. Only those who leave their ANS/NEO at Bittrex will lose out as then Bittrex claims it as its own.
Of course those who have 10,000+ ANS/NEO and decide to set up a bookkeeping node can earn network fees on top of that, but in that last instance, the node should be kept running.
I just wanna make sure:
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
I dont have to keep the ANT Wallet open to receive AntCoins right? So lets say i wont open the wallet for a month, I still can claim all coins i got from that month right?
let's replace bitcoin 
This rebranding news has done much more than anybody expected to see. It was always under uncertain situation and darkness but at of sudden it reached at the top most traded rank. Lot of people are using these updates to make money. Small investors are not finding way to get something out of this.
I personally disagree with that statement. The real investors regardless of their size will get most out of this as far as I am concerned. I bought and held and am now up 900% this month and I plan to hold for a lot longer. The daytraders create unnecessary complications in the price development, so for all long term holders it is best to not provide excessive amounts of news. Let the daytraders always be one step behind chasing the events as they happen and ensure no overdramatic hypes are developed that are exploited by the daytraders. NEO is where it is due to its fundamentals. For long term holders the focus is on the fundamentals, whilst most daytraders generally have little knowledge about the fundamentals and thus are forced to trade solely based upon special events, price movements and resistance levels. Admittedly I fell for the hype once (not that I bought or sold anything at that time), but I am not going to do that again and I hope others do not either. Those who closely study the fundamentals and how NEO compares to the main competitors of the industry and study the trading volume levels of for example Bitcoin by country will know all they need to know about whether a long term investment is worth it. Perhaps a few daytraders are able to make more, but the vast majority of daytraders make far less with a lot of their funds being lost due to racked up trading fees and I personally would not want to sit on the side line in the potential bull markets. If you know what you have there is no need for stress either unlike daytraders who are constantly stressing whether they should buy or sell. For market makers the trading potential would be vastly different with all the dirty tricks they have at their disposal, but there are no real market makers here.....perhaps Bittrex and Yunbi might have conspired at times to profit of the spreads, but not too much happened beyond that.
This rebranding news has done much more than anybody expected to see. It was always under uncertain situation and darkness but at of sudden it reached at the top most traded rank. Lot of people are using these updates to make money. Small investors are not finding way to get something out of this.
Do somebody knows why the official site is not available?
Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot!
Are you looking at the antshares site or the Neo site? Most of the current stuff is updated on the neo site since it will be rebranding soon
Do somebody knows why the official site is not available?
Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot!
Looks healthy the RISE. looks not like a pump.
I made some profit for holding and now I am fully out as it has done for me. Millions of dollars are being injected into market to keep the pump going on. Whales are actively playing role and they didn't get their targeted profit so it will still be at top position with most volume at Bittrex and other few exchanges.
Antsharers be myrmidons!
Start anew!
Save miners everywhere!
Children and families first please.
Hello where can i buy this antshares ?
Here you go : https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ANSIt's a scam.
No platform release yet, dev? If no, I'm ready to buy the dump to 30,000 satoshis.
Are you crazy? I also want in 30k satoshi, but that sounds difficult.
it was hard to pull trigger at 6 bucks after buying first 2000 at twenty cents....but doubled up for the long hall.........i believe!!!
BFT Consensus can not support a large scale nodes, you are wrong.
it can never be decentralized like bitcoin and Ethereum..
it's more like a centralized network.
then why you buy some data from a centralized network?
i am not trying to fuds, but that's the truth of science.
Even the first sentence of the ANS whitepaper makes clear that it is decentralised. The current layout supports a theoretical maximum of 10000 Bookkeeping nodes. Every ANS represents a vote. We can make decisions about the system itself just fine. Enjoy your Bitcoin and Ethereum. Bitcoin will probably use as much electricity as Denmark by 2020 and both Ethereum and Bitcoin cannot handle truly vast transaction flows. Also enjoy your forking potential and the One Man bookkeeping limitations that both systems provide. You stick to Bitcoin and Ethereum and I will stick to ANS and we will see what is more successful in the long run. How is that for a deal?
Are Bitcoin and Ethereum more decentralised? Yes, but that comes at the cost of vast energy expense, inefficiency and speed. A single bitcoin transaction uses as much energy as almost four households use for a day. You might call that great. I call that bad design. I am fine with agreeing to disagree. The markets will speak for themselves.
everyone just saying they are better than BTC.
yes, you are right, you can have a lot SPV wallet or so called bookkeeping nodes,
but you do not have the right to be a full nodes, you just listen what the validation nodes tell you.
that's make no difference someone rent 8 server to offer money printing service.
and you do not even know what you are buying, time will tell who is right.
Bitcoin is bitcoin, Ethereum will be Ethereum.
You obviously did not notice that at https://www.antshares.org/ the number of FULL NODES at this point is 417. I think the only requirement to become a full node is having 10,000 ANS and running the proper Linux system whilst meeting all technical specifications. Everyone else who runs it is in effect a light node. If you read the network protocol (https://github.com/AntShares/AntShares/wiki/Network-Protocol), you will see that ANS holders can vote on validator candidates and it can be increased to a maximum of 1024. Validator candidates can be accepted, rejected or revoked. This is a continuous process. Let's give another example: Does a Presidential candidate run the country? No, it is a candidate who can be elected by others. That is the same with the validator candidates you are referring to. If you noticed carefully, 7 are effective and 1 was revoked. This appears to be an old list for selecting candidates. The number that matters is the 417 FULL NODES. This number is increasingly rapidly in the last few days. Contrary to Bitcoin ANS holders get to vote on which parties they trust to run the system.
no, i think the things matter is validation nodes, if this 8 validations node went down, this system worth nothing
that's the reason why i say this will never become a currency.. just a hype.
but it's doesn't matter stupid people will buy this.
and price will still go up ..
seems no one want to answer this question?
so people are buying a coin only have 8 validation nodes?
that's silly !
Simply 'cause ppl seem to be smarter than you. 😄
A guy that is either jealous that he was late on the train or doesn't see the whole thing behind ants/neos and keeps quoting himself....
Now plx leave this thread and go to iota or smthg
BFT Consensus can not support a large scale nodes, you are wrong.
it can never be decentralized like bitcoin and Ethereum..
it's more like a centralized network.
then why you buy some data from a centralized network?
i am not trying to fuds, but that's the truth of science.
Even the first sentence of the ANS whitepaper makes clear that it is decentralised. The current layout supports a theoretical maximum of 10000 Bookkeeping nodes. Every ANS represents a vote. We can make decisions about the system itself just fine. Enjoy your Bitcoin and Ethereum. Bitcoin will probably use as much electricity as Denmark by 2020 and both Ethereum and Bitcoin cannot handle truly vast transaction flows. Also enjoy your forking potential and the One Man bookkeeping limitations that both systems provide. You stick to Bitcoin and Ethereum and I will stick to ANS and we will see what is more successful in the long run. How is that for a deal?
Are Bitcoin and Ethereum more decentralised? Yes, but that comes at the cost of vast energy expense, inefficiency and speed. A single bitcoin transaction uses as much energy as almost four households use for a day. You might call that great. I call that bad design. I am fine with agreeing to disagree. The markets will speak for themselves.
everyone just saying they are better than BTC.
yes, you are right, you can have a lot SPV wallet or so called bookkeeping nodes,
but you do not have the right to be a full nodes, you just listen what the validation nodes tell you.
that's make no difference someone rent 8 server to offer money printing service.
and you do not even know what you are buying, time will tell who is right.
Bitcoin is bitcoin, Ethereum will be Ethereum.
You obviously did not notice that at https://www.antshares.org/ the number of FULL NODES at this point is 417. I think the only requirement to become a full node is having 10,000 ANS and running the proper Linux system whilst meeting all technical specifications. Everyone else who runs it is in effect a light node. If you read the network protocol (https://github.com/AntShares/AntShares/wiki/Network-Protocol), you will see that ANS holders can vote on validator candidates and it can be increased to a maximum of 1024. Validator candidates can be accepted, rejected or revoked. This is a continuous process. Let's give another example: Does a Presidential candidate run the country? No, it is a candidate who can be elected by others. That is the same with the validator candidates you are referring to. If you noticed carefully, 7 are effective and 1 was revoked. This appears to be an old list for selecting candidates. The number that matters is the 417 FULL NODES. This number is increasingly rapidly in the last few days. Contrary to Bitcoin ANS holders get to vote on which parties they trust to run the system.
no, i think the things matter is validation nodes, if this 8 validations node went down, this system worth nothing
that's the reason why i say this will never become a currency.. just a hype.
but it's doesn't matter stupid people will buy this.
and price will still go up ..
seems no one want to answer this question?
so people are buying a coin only have 8 validation nodes?
that's silly !
Alibaba & AntShares/NEO Connection
https://www.reddit.com/r/Antshares/comments/6jatgv/demystifying_the_alibaba_connection/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Antshares/comments/6jatgv/demystifying_the_alibaba_connection/
alibaba has nothing to do with this normal coin.....
you will realize this later.
Does anybody know who owns 50 millions ANS tokens that are out of circulation now?
I have read the following here:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/antshares-rebrands-introduces-neo-and-new-smart-economy1/
If developers own 50 millions tokens and are going to sell them to support development, that may negatively effect the price I think.
I have read the following here:
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From the looks, sounds, and energy of the event, NEO has built up some strong momentum going forward. They have one the top blockchain development teams in all of China, with 50 million ANS ($325 million) to support their funding needs and a growing list of partners now aligning by their side. While it may take some time to steal the spotlight from Ethereum, we are sure to see more from this platform in the months to come.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/antshares-rebrands-introduces-neo-and-new-smart-economy1/
If developers own 50 millions tokens and are going to sell them to support development, that may negatively effect the price I think.
Yes, the developers own the 50 million, but the plan is to use a large junk of those coins to create partnership and build value.
MrSunShine is correct. If you listen to an interview from 2016 the Antshares team states specifically that most of the Antshares they hold are meant to enter into joint ventures with other companies to build further value for Antshare holders as they noticed that many other companies simply did not have enough reserves later on to enter into meaningful partnerships that would be beneficial for all parties. Also keep in mind that of those 50 million only 15 million at most can enter into circulation in any given year.
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For ANS holders here is a pretty simple, very helpful calculator so you can approximate how quickly you will accumulate Neo/Ant Coins :
https://neocoins.net
You are welcome, enjoy
https://neocoins.net
You are welcome, enjoy
I thought ANS uses a different Algorithm? It's POS?
Yes, it does not use PoW or PoS. It uses Byzantine Fault Tolerance. There is more information on it in the WhitePaper: https://github.com/AntShares/AntShares/wiki/Whitepaper-1.1
For ANS holders here is a pretty simple, very helpful calculator so you can approximate how quickly you will accumulate Neo/Ant Coins :
https://neocoins.net
You are welcome, enjoy
https://neocoins.net
You are welcome, enjoy
I thought ANS uses a different Algorithm? It's POS?
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