[ANN][RZR] Razor - Cutting Edge of Technology ☆[TOR]☆[No Pre/ICO] Updated Nodes! - page 25.

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Quote from: cryptoholic11 on July 07, 2014, 10:25:19 AM

Didn't the VRC dev prove that TOR implementation isn't that much of an innovation after he integrated it in a few minutes? Tor is overrated and should never be a selling point.

If the nodes and the network aren't on Tor then having your client on Tor is meaningless. Read the whitepapers both of them listed on the OP. Also check out the PDF roadmap, Tor isn't the selling point there is more supposedly in the works. It's not just a Tor coin.

beating a dead horse.......

All aboard the VRC fail-boat tor implementation.

https://twitter.com/TheFateofBTC/status/480774038529114112

There's no need to fight it, great chance to close your positions with these imposter coins.

Truly it is a compliment to see others trying to imitate. I'm sure development team appreciates it.

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What u are talking about is something different..p2p tech is not BTC normal blockchain. And OneMarket that is a new technology and the first decentralised marketplace. Think the money entering
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P2P is old "technology", and the blockchain is distributed to all the peers which makes it decentralized. I have read the Onemarket paper and it's interesting theory, but vaporware is just that. Things must be abuzz over at the Cloak Ann section. Reminds me of Doge coin dreams.

Torr is old "technology" as well. Now put an iphone in grandma's hands and her grandchild and she's using facetime.
That's what we have going on here. Integration is the key.

Cloak's intent was anonymity but they have this new onemarket distraction.

To their teams' credit, cloak tried a simple design that partially solved some problems.

RZR offers the anonymity that Cloak dreamed of. Check it out yourself.

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No he didn't because that's not true. you cannot "fix" this with a patch on a coin that has not Tor built-in.

He wasn't looking to 'fix' anything, he was simply proving that operating in TOR is not 'cutting edge of technology'. You simply release a new coin's client with the requisite TOR bundle and default the proxy through it. Voilà, new coin now has all clients on TOR.

Hardly inspiring.

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The only thing this coin needs is updates from the devs.

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Quote from: crazyhashmanz on July 07, 2014, 10:46:03 AM

Quote from: Collegestudent on July 07, 2014, 09:02:28 AM

im sorry to say it but after a big study between CLOAK and RZR. My money is on CLOAK just compare their current work and whitepapers. CLOAK already has their p2p system in place and the OneMarket will also become a reality. This is a new multi million $ industry and i compare CLOAK to BTC as thats how much the model threats to takeover it given it recieves the publicity

Please read this as part of your study,

http://www.coindesk.com/eavesdropping-attack-can-unmask-60-bitcoin-clients/

With Cloak you're sending your transaction to a website, Now you're depending on a third party. I don't care to put my trust in some website. You may as well use Visa or Mastercard to provide a layer of anonymity between you and the merchant.

This is the complete solution in one package. I encourage you to get a few RZR right now and try the technology out, this isn't a pump and dump coin. It's just a coin ahead of its time. I assure you when you see how it integrates with tor you'll never look at Cloak and Darksend as a solution again with any merit.

Just wait till the SMS gateway - that's what they call a disruptive technology.

What u are talking about is something different..p2p tech is not BTC normal blockchain. And OneMarket that is a new technology and the first decentralised marketplace. Think the money entering

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Quote from: Collegestudent on July 07, 2014, 09:02:28 AM

im sorry to say it but after a big study between CLOAK and RZR. My money is on CLOAK just compare their current work and whitepapers. CLOAK already has their p2p system in place and the OneMarket will also become a reality. This is a new multi million $ industry and i compare CLOAK to BTC as thats how much the model threats to takeover it given it recieves the publicity

Please read this as part of your study,

http://www.coindesk.com/eavesdropping-attack-can-unmask-60-bitcoin-clients/

With Cloak you're sending your transaction to a website, Now you're depending on a third party. I don't care to put my trust in some website. You may as well use Visa or Mastercard to provide a layer of anonymity between you and the merchant.

This is the complete solution in one package. I encourage you to get a few RZR right now and try the technology out, this isn't a pump and dump coin. It's just a coin ahead of its time. I assure you when you see how it integrates with tor you'll never look at Cloak and Darksend as a solution again with any merit.

Just wait till the SMS gateway - that's what they call a disruptive technology.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on July 07, 2014, 10:34:55 AM

^^^ See, that's *exactly* what I said when I objected to the thread title claiming the coin was 'Cutting Edge of Technology'.

So it lives in TOR, woooo!

The blockchain is still going to be showing transactions from one wallet address to another. You just need an entry/exit point for an address, namely, a place where it has engaged with RL, like an exchange that has your email address or a supplier that has your actual address, and then TOR or not, you are tied to that address and every transaction in or out is just a case of following the money. Rinse and repeat.

I sold all my RZR at 100s never looked back. Dev probably cashed and is on the way to bank. their whitepaper is unproffesional and does not look comparable to VRC, CLOAK or XC if anyone is looking for powerful devs

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^^^ See, that's *exactly* what I said when I objected to the thread title claiming the coin was 'Cutting Edge of Technology'.

So it lives in TOR, woooo!

The blockchain is still going to be showing transactions from one wallet address to another. You just need an entry/exit point for an address, namely, a place where it has engaged with RL, like an exchange that has your email address or a supplier that has your actual address, and then TOR or not, you are tied to that address and every transaction in or out is just a case of following the money. Rinse and repeat.

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Quote from: Collegestudent on July 07, 2014, 09:02:28 AM

im sorry to say it but after a big study between CLOAK and RZR. My money is on CLOAK just compare their current work and whitepapers. CLOAK already has their p2p system in place and the OneMarket will also become a reality. This is a new multi million $ industry and i compare CLOAK to BTC as thats how much the model threats to takeover it given it recieves the publicity

But CLOAK is pretty much like every other attempt at anon, and so it doesn't really work, like dark, and all the others. Razor is finally the right direction for the anonymity trend and one that actually works (a coin that has Tor in-built and not as a patch to add to any coin).
It is what a true alternative complementary currency to BTC (what darkcoin tried to be failed because of his technical problems and flawed design) needs to have in order to survive long term.

I'm holding because I believe in this project and because the coin is what cryptocurrencies need right now (finally done right), and the devs are clearly legit and hard working. But I gotta admit that in the altcoin world (where there is no such thing as a sure thing) seeing that price drop is still very nerve wracking and depressing.

Please release new info soon (especially the replacement for mixers which could be huge), I know you guys are working hard so show us the results of your work.

CLOAK isnt Tor but a true P2P which many cryptos including this one aim to achieve but have not so far. CLOAK is the only crypto other than Zerocoin (ALTcoins) with strong financial support resulting in the amount of working being produced. CLOAK's whitepaper on POSA says it all and its proffesionalism should point out that these people that are hired are some A+ coders in the background not normal coders like 99% of Cryptos here. Even a Decentralised market is being made so this about how much utlitiy CLOAK will have. It may at some point in future be the future of E commercial markets

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Quote from: Collegestudent on July 07, 2014, 09:02:28 AM

im sorry to say it but after a big study between CLOAK and RZR. My money is on CLOAK just compare their current work and whitepapers. CLOAK already has their p2p system in place and the OneMarket will also become a reality. This is a new multi million $ industry and i compare CLOAK to BTC as thats how much the model threats to takeover it given it recieves the publicity

But CLOAK is pretty much like every other attempt at anon, and so it doesn't really work, like dark, and all the others. Razor is finally the right direction for the anonymity trend and one that actually works (a coin that has Tor in-built and not as a patch to add to any coin).
It is what a true alternative complementary currency to BTC (what darkcoin tried to be failed because of his technical problems and flawed design) needs to have in order to survive long term.

I'm holding because I believe in this project and because the coin is what cryptocurrencies need right now (finally done right), and the devs are clearly legit and hard working. But I gotta admit that in the altcoin world (where there is no such thing as a sure thing) seeing that price drop is still very nerve wracking and depressing.

Please release new info soon (especially the replacement for mixers which could be huge), I know you guys are working hard so show us the results of your work.

+1

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Didn't the VRC dev prove that TOR implementation isn't that much of an innovation after he integrated it in a few minutes? Tor is overrated and should never be a selling point.

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Thankfully i sold at 92k at little loss, if dev don't appear soon, will see a 40k or less.

Another coin touched by Weiner

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Quote from: green2016 on July 07, 2014, 09:30:05 AM

Where is dev？ go to holiday？

these guys are shady and not transparent like XLB dev. let them both die

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Where is dev？ go to holiday？

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im sorry to say it but after a big study between CLOAK and RZR. My money is on CLOAK just compare their current work and whitepapers. CLOAK already has their p2p system in place and the OneMarket will also become a reality. This is a new multi million $ industry and i compare CLOAK to BTC as thats how much the model threats to takeover it given it recieves the publicity

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Quote from: Tad3j on July 07, 2014, 08:32:52 AM

Quote from: _theone on July 07, 2014, 08:29:49 AM

might dump to 1000 sat

mybe will, but after the first, second, and so on halving, the price will go up, after 130.000 block, we should have 2million razorcoins and the mining will end. then we can of course talk the real deals!

yes, but this is no pos coin right? how is teh blockchain protected?

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... and of course, real dump ...

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Quote from: _theone on July 07, 2014, 08:29:49 AM

might dump to 1000 sat

mybe will, but after the first, second, and so on halving, the price will go up, after 130.000 block, we should have 2million razorcoins and the mining will end. then we can of course talk the real deals!

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