Topic: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA - page 8. (Read 1452 times)

In my opinion they are starting to get obsolete and this is the right moment for competitor like socrates.

Yes, I cant see any reason why people would stick with using mainstream platforms like odem.io, as the general awareness of the public grows.
People have the sense of freedom rooted into them - once they see that they are not satisfied, there is no going back, they will start looking for better alternatives, and I’m sure they will find Socratescoin waiting for them!

I think the ICO will help get the platform some more exposure. Lets hope it keeps the snowball rolling!

when the platform offering user can get income from their activity, it will be good.
so, if token will be used to pay user, it would be great unique feature.

Suddenly so much movement in a single day.  Funny.

The idea underneath this ICO is of high value to the world

I think socrates will also need a unique feature, and then probably someone will also offer some money to buy Socrates .

At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice

The only problem project faces at the moment is, that it needs a lot of user to build up a good social network, not the decentralization or anonymity. I hope Socrates is doing a lot of good marketing for this.

I think everyone is interested in how the decentralization of this network will be organized). In my concept this is a computer on which the necessary software for the operation of this platform is installed. Roughly speaking, the server. The information is stored on it. This server is managed by someone. How can we talk about decentralization in this case? Correct, if I'm wrong.

The key element in cryptoworld is "decentralized", along with security
Although for this specific token the word "anonymous" is not really an element... because it's aiming at collecting information about people.
This put aside, this project has potential because they have an extra layer.

@John that is a very good list. At this point I have nothing to add to that. My #10 would be maybe that they (Gini) want people to buy BTC and then promote Coinbase and not even GDAX. Come on, just 5 mins on Google and even she would have known it better. Sheer incompetence.

They just released an interview with Alfred Hasselbacher on their facebook page. I am 99.9% sure that is from back then when they had their launch. What was the most interesting to me was that Alfred said that his vision for the university is an individual learning experience. They want to recreate those historical pleaces where you should study then and this should help you with memorizing what you have learned. In which way is that individual when everybody can book the same "experience"? To me that was just another sign that they have no idea at all. And on a personal note: Should I really trust someone who wants to pitch me something but can´t even take off his sunglasses?

Because I have been asked that a few times already I want to point something out:

This project in full is screaming scam as loud as possible. Until now we don´t know how much of it is a scam. There are many red flags but they are still on their wide spread roadmap and of course it will become interesting after the ICO. If you invest in this right now you will buy one Socratescoin for $1.11. If you don´t plan to spend it at the Nauka university your only options are hodling or selling it once it´s up for trade. The value of the socratescoins you own then depends a bit on the market itself but mostly on the university. I don´t want to question to fact if there will ever be a university but if the university will not be a big hit it is very unliky that the coin will gain some substantion value. A good example for this is the PiplCoin. According to the whitepaper it was sold for $1.00 during the ICO but when it was up for trading the actual value was $0.02, which went up to 11 cents then slowly declined and since Dec `17 it is around 2 cents again. Even if you would have sold your coins at the best moment  you would have still lost 90% of your investment due to promises that were never kept.

No i didnt see before MrsPiggy about your conversation with Batista. Good job! You expose them realy badly , not just as scamer but even as totaly incompetent idots: Ginis try to gather people for downvoting is hilarois and a realy bad red flag. While Batista try to tackle it on a serious way but making many many mistakes and contradictions. The guys didnt expect that much resistance . They just think how supersmart they are and how stupid the rest of the world. Puting less then 100$ in making a webpage and whitepaper and expecting to raise 47M$.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)  
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5


If i forget anything feel free to complete.

Yes, you are right! While I was scrolling through the website on Saturday I noticed it too.

Good point. I actually have a guy from Brasil and one Russian speaking guy in my group. I'll ask them to contact the universities tomorrow.

Have you seen that Manuel Batista has responded on Reddit? I replied but don't expect to get another response from him.

Authorities are more and more interested in this but as long as there is no real damage done the only illegal activity is that they are not saying who or which company is in possession of the money that is invested. I am in contact with a few people that have invested in the ICO and feel more and more that they are being scammed.

Do i see right? Did they remove unesco as offical partner from their landingpage? LOL. Can anybody ask the universities of moscow, dubna and brasilia. I cant neither speak russian nor portugese. I think slowley the most naive investor is recognising that socratescoin is a hilarious bad made scam. Instead of fighting our arguments here they adapt their statements in whitepaper and website.  LOL or  i dont know.

Thx MrsPiggy. You do a very good job! Hope these guys get what they deserve.

@John: I´m not 100% again but I did a quick dive in all that I have saved under the name of Alfred Hassebacher. First I have to clarify that my memory was a little mixed up. It was sydex.net which made me find Alfred Hasselbacher`s connection to the Turin Trading International GmbH registered in Wien, Austria. There is at least one more or less known person with that name in Austria but according to Linkedin there is also one in Slowakia. I´ve to look into that tomorrow.

Furthermore I have found by accident that Mauel Batista already registered domains like socratescoin.club on Nov. 02 2017. Which didn´t stop him from registering autofloweringcoin.com and erbacoin.com later that month. His list of more than 120 registered domains shows to me that he is deperate to make some quick money online...

I think we should start a wiki or something to gather all our information.

I will check back tomorrow with the authorities who are looking into this because like John said we can´t let the just move to the next project/scam again.

@mrs. Piggy. I couldnt find any relation between Troger and Hasselbacher before. There is an Austrian cyclist named Rene Haselbacher. In a forum there is a thread about him and spandex pants. Maybe you saw this.
@mr.Troll Yes your post gave me the initial idea to make a research about teammembers and ponzishemes. I know that the ponzicommunity is moving from one ponzi to the next. From one froud to the next...

I got an answear of UNESCO. My mail:_______________________________________________________________________________ ____

Dear unesco,

in the internet i found a project which claimes to have a partnership with the unesco. There is actually an ico running which want to collect almoust 50M$ for educational projects. In my opinion its a scam. Can you conferm that or conferm that the partnership with the unesco is real? The projects name is socratescoin. Webpage: www.socratescoin.io. Thank you!

Kind regards

_______________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________

Answear from unesco:

Dear Mr X,


I cannot confirm affiliation with UNESCO and recommend utmost cautious for these unregulated activities.


Financial regulators usually recommend avoiding unregulated financial products. Furthermore, as a thumb rule, no investor should invest in a product he does not perfectly understand.


Best regards,

_______________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________


The guys have a new whitepaper: http://coinwoot.com/wp-content/uploads/NAUKA_WORLD_paper.pdf  congratulations. As i mentioned in a previous post they confused the scientists and the sciences.



As you see i did not continue with enumerate mistakes, made just ... In this new whitepaper the guys didnt mention each scientist i told anymore. But they assingn still marie curie to biology / health /medicine. LOL. I hope everybody see now how incompetent and simply stupid these people is. The sad thing, we are showing them to build a serious scam. In the future they will be advisors for better scams as they cant build anymore scams on their real names after this thing here. Thats im afraid about.

Hello,

We have added SocratesCoin ICO profile to CoinWoot website (link - http://coinwoot.com/ico/socratescoin).

If you have any question about SocratesCoin ICO profile, feel free to contact us.

@JohnGN

I guess i was right then, when i assumed that these are networking(MLM) drones high on drugs