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Life is toxic...CHUG IT!!
even though most of them are dumb enough to deserve it, its nice to see people like you rooting out the scammers for the noobs...
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A research about Pirmin Troger.
There are some footprints about Troger in the internet. Obviously he tried or tries to build different buisnesses. For example he has a youtube account where he loaded up videos which promote a sort of special screen protectors for mobile devices. He has 2 fb accounts one is probably related to the buisness with the screenprotectors. The uploaddate of the videos and the setup date of the account are more or less corresponding. Actually he seems to be from north of italy where a small german speaking minority is living. On the other hand i saw information that he tried to build a company 'cp21' in Austria. (https://firmenbuchauszug.at/Firmenbuchinformation/255DFF0CF89F1D) As shown in the web he was agent of the company lavavitave which sells controversal pills with a special stone for health. As i understand they use a mlm marketing concept. I would not evaluete it as a ponzisheme.
Good find 👍 I didn't really look into him yet as I thought that he must have been more like a bystander. But both the screen protectors and the dietary pills show huge similarities to "projects" that Alfred Hasselbacher has been involved in. I have the influenza and can barely look at may screen for longer than five minutes. Maybe you can have a look of there is a connection between them. If I remember correctly Alfred Hasselbacher's name is also shown in connection with a company registered in Austria somewhat in 2016. Spandex or so.

And by the way. They just announced on Twitter that the website for Nauka World is finally up and running. It's a single page with a contact form... For good reasons I'm not going to show you the picture they posted on Twitter but I want to share the biggest joke I've found on that website: "Socratescoin has acquired patent and intellectual property rights of a unique portfolio of science originally developed by the International Space Station Russian Module"
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A research about Pirmin Troger.
There are some footprints about Troger in the internet. Obviously he tried or tries to build different buisnesses. For example he has a youtube account where he loaded up videos which promote a sort of special screen protectors for mobile devices. He has 2 fb accounts one is probably related to the buisness with the screenprotectors. The uploaddate of the videos and the setup date of the account are more or less corresponding. Actually he seems to be from north of italy where a small german speaking minority is living. On the other hand i saw information that he tried to build a company 'cp21' in Austria. (https://firmenbuchauszug.at/Firmenbuchinformation/255DFF0CF89F1D) As shown in the web he was agent of the company lavavitave which sells controversal pills with a special stone for health. As i understand they use a mlm marketing concept. I would not evaluete it as a ponzisheme.
Furthermore i can proof that Troger had or has at least connections to people involved in ponzisheme projects. His cp21 company is registratet to the following emailaddress: [email protected]. I checked for a website and i found it. www.einkommensarchitekten.com. Einkommensarchitekten means architect for income or income builder or something like this. In my words they want to show how to generate money. On the website are just 2 people for now, but if we go back in time we see there were 5 in total. Also Troger was member. The ea1 in his emailaddress probably means einkommensarchitekten1. Perhaps he is one of the leaders of this group (nr1). The waybackmachine showes a snapshot of august 2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160811065208/http://www.einkommensarchitekten.com:80/ Troger is on the right.
The team claims to create a perfect life with financially freedom for their customers. On the website the admit to do networkmarketing. 'We know, that you know, that we have, what you need'. The sentence scares me. One of the teammembers was on a 'my advertising pays' conference in germany. https://www.xing.com/profile/Patrick_Profanter. Just a convinced involved person posts the event on his xing profile. My advervising pays was a meanwhile colapsed ponzisheme with a huge number of victims. In my opinion the guys try to recrute new affiliates to fill their own pockets. The choice of the words and terminology reminds me on typical ponzisheme publicity methods. 'We change your life, we make you rich... blablalba'
To me its strange that Troger was involved 2016 in this einkommensarchitekten thing. 2017 he obviously tried to build a buisness with the screenprotector (maybe cp21 (cristall protector???) is related to it) and suddenly end of 2017 he is in the excecutive team of a project which claims to have already started back in 2000. Regarding this research, the costa rica conference assumtion made from Mrs. piggy is plausible in my opinion. I try to investigate the project. I admit that i cant 100% proof thats a scam but im pretty sure. I have to wait for the answear of the unesco for a clear proof. Or socratescoin proof me wrong with a disclose of the addresses with the raised funds. That will not gonna happen.
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There is not even a formula. They just put the rough number for each value in the sourcecode on the server. Wink You see the pure values parsefloat(x  Cheesy
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I find it strange that the raised amount is written directly in the sourcecode. So they update it manualy. Its not any connection to a ethereum or bitcoin node or nodeinterface. Very unprofessional. Everybody can write in the sourcecode a not proofed number.
      
Excerpt of the sourcecode of socratescoin.io website

function setContributed(){
         var hardCap = 46900000;
               var percent = (parseInt(8711330.0) / hardCap) * 100;
               $("#progress_bar span").css("width", percent+"%");
          $("#raisedsofarUSD").text("$"+parseInt(8711330.0).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ","));

setContributedBTC();
      function setContributedBTC(){
               $("#raisedsofarBTC").text(parseFloat(477.61).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" BTC");
      }
      
      setContributedETH();
      function setContributedETH(){

               $("#raisedsofarETH").text(parseFloat(3649.11).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" ETH");
      }
I haven´t collected enough data on this yet as I initially though that it would be a fixed number. Throughout the last days, just by looking at the numbers, I became very certain than the raised amount must be based on a mathematical formula updated every day.

Furthermore a few of them have attened these "how to become rich conferences" in the last year where everybody afterwards sets up their own landingpage on their way of how to become rich pretty fast. Kinda like a MLM but a little different, I think. Manuel Batista was at one of these conferences in Costa Rica last year in September. I guess that´s where hes has made the first contacts to the people included in this scam but unfortunately I haven´t found any connections yet.
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Assingning the scientists to the wrong siences (Hippocrates -> Physicist, Tesla -> Mathematician, Faraday -> Chemistry....) is not a red flag but it implicates a lot of incompetence. We have here a project which claims to be the coin of education (whatever that means) and they are not able to sort mankinds most famous scientists in the right way. Even too lazy to google it. It seems they think, lets do easy money, our investors are stupid anyway so we dont have to write a convincingly whitepaper.
The bitcointalk thread was launched after the ico started. Normaly project start discussions on forums a few months before the ico beginns to answear questions...
You are right mr.Troll. Their whole behavior reminds me on the pr of the mlm ponzishemes which i investigated a lot in the past (Onecoin, Habcoin, My Advertising Pays, Kairos, starad24 <- all colapses meanwhile). This brings me to Pirmin Troger. He claimes to be an Networkmarketing professional. Most of this mlm are ponzishemes. So i will do some research about him.

I find it strange that the raised amount is written directly in the sourcecode. So they update it manualy. Its not any connection to a ethereum or bitcoin node or nodeinterface. Very unprofessional. Everybody can write in the sourcecode a not proofed number.
      
Excerpt of the sourcecode of socratescoin.io website

function setContributed(){
         var hardCap = 46900000;
               var percent = (parseInt(8711330.0) / hardCap) * 100;
               $("#progress_bar span").css("width", percent+"%");
          $("#raisedsofarUSD").text("$"+parseInt(8711330.0).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ","));

setContributedBTC();
      function setContributedBTC(){
               $("#raisedsofarBTC").text(parseFloat(477.61).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" BTC");
      }
      
      setContributedETH();
      function setContributedETH(){

               $("#raisedsofarETH").text(parseFloat(3649.11).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" ETH");
      }
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These 1diots are making videos of themselfes drinking champagne and dancing around in the sun while high on drugs it seems.... This is a typical behavior of networking brainwashed drones...
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Thank you JohnGN for stepping up against them and trying to gain further information!

For those who don´t know me, I am the one who made the post on reddit to which their CMO Virginia Salas Kastilio also know as Ginicanbreathe responded but failed to answer any questoins. I am in contact with friends who first wanted to invest in their project (for obvious reasons they don´t want to anymore) and a couple of people who have contacted me on reddit.

What they are doing here and there is basically psychology in sales for beginners. Don´t talk about what´s bad, better bring up something new. If there is a lack of proof for your facts try blame the opposing party that there is no proof for their accusations. Forward important questions to other people until the customer has forgotten what is acual question was. And so on.

There are major questions that are and probably will stay unanswered. Besides the fact that they fail to proof the existence of the $8M+ they still fail to provide an actually registered company and a legal address. Furthermore it was seen on social media around two weeks ago they they have bought multiple VR googles (most likely these where you have to put your phone in) to "see what the future of learning looks like". My wild guess is that they have used them to watch rollercoaster videos on YouTube because otherwise they would habe been able to show us at least an alpha of their university.

Authorities are currently looking into this and try to determine which country´s authrities are in charge to start furhter investigations since this project has no legal address. At this point it might be the only thing they have done right.
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I had a short conversation on facebook with one of the leaders. After deleting a bad comment on facebook he wrote it started.
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___________________________________conversation start________________________________________
Socratescoin:
Hi! if you are such an advocate of blockchain and its transparency then lets hop on a call for all the things you did not get IF you actually read the whitepaper and understood any!
and then go to comment it with a reddit post which has no actual proof and all will be answered and addressed!
Me:
just give me the eth adress of the erc20 tokens and the contractaddress which handle the distribution of the tokens. The proof that you raised already 8M+$ then we can continue discussion.
Please there is a bitcointalk threat. Let do an open discussion
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annsapis-socratescoin-the-coin-of-knowledge-the-payment-method-of-nauka-2937986

Socratescoin:
thumb up.

One day later

Me:
still waiting for your answears on btctalk. Answear to the last post please.

Socratescoin:
I’m travelling to Bangkok and Dubai!

And the questions will all be answered as mentioned and my PR team is getting all ready!

And do not know your hurry as you claim and do accusations without proof and knowing!

Have a great day! Huh?

Me:
Of course you dont Huh???For you it is better that nobody does research on your scam and that you can catch as much people as possible. You can also delegate your job of answearing questions on your partners. I participated in a lot of icos. usualy serios teams answear on btctalk immediately as they are interrested to enlight the community. Your behavior (i am travelling to bangkok instead, how rediculous is that???) is a further red flag in my opinion. ??

Socratescoin:
You can research as much as you want!
And I even reply to your comments and asked you to jump on a call!
And can show you all!

Me:
I will post our conversation in btctalk let continue there please
please answear in btctalk why to you have time to answear here?

Socratescoin:
Because I’m on my phone and asked you gently if you want to jump on a call and I can clear all your questions!
Even if I do not have to!
If you keep attacking
And I answered to you personally!
Me:
no i want that you do it for the public not like in the article your cofounder did. CC is a community thing ok. Its not only me having those questions. Each  conscientious experienced investor has those questions...

Socratescoin:
I answered to you personally as you claimed and give accusations without proof! And asked if you want to hop on a call!

Me:
ok lets continue on btctalk
__________________________________end of conversation_______________


Please just proof that you rised more then 8M$ already. That is very easy, its fastly done and a big proof. We dont even have to talk a lot about then. I find thats a good solution. If you are able i will revoke my accuses. You have just to disclose the addresses of which you are owner of. Sign the following text with the related private keys (without quotation marks): 'We from Socratescoin will singn this text for proof' and thats it.

Not answearing all the time, trying so gain time its a strategy witch i experienced in a lot of scamprojects during the sensible phase of the ico. Of course its better for you Wink. A well known one was beth.jp. Last year. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beth-ico-bethjp-another-scam-in-cryptoland-1921164

Greez
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Sorry guys your project is very unknown in relation to the odem project and you already raised almost twice as much. That seems very strange to me. Can i see at least the contract address or the erc20 tokens? I did some research about the team and i saw Dr. Alfred Hasselbacher was involved in many suspecious things like sellig dietpills. https://www.gesund-heilfasten.de/diaet/blog/zyloslim-mitoslim-nuvocleanse/ This quack pretend to be the founder of a big movement. Lol. I wrote an email to unesco for proofing if they are realy a partner of this strange project. I will post the answear here. Please dont invest before guys many, too many red flags in this ico. Im pretty sure also the showed raised amoúnt on their website is faked.
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I m looking already for a longer time for a oportunity to invest money in education. As there are not many options. Today the odem.io ico is launching. I am investigating that project as well. Your whitepaper is not that clear as i dont know what exactely are you going to do with the tokens. How do they generate value? Just on free market trading? Which exchanges are you going to be listed on? I saw that you already raised >7M$. That is strange to me because you dont make a lot of publicity such other projects do for their icos. Can you proof that you already raised that money and expose the addresses where the eth or btc are on it? Would create a lot of confidence. Thx.

More new things and information about our projects and SocratesCoin token will be published on our soical media channels.

If you have any question, please let us know via email: [email protected]
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This whitepaper has 0 information about you and has nothing to do with a legit ico.
 Where does the money go you collect? Do you even know what a blockchain is?!
Oh and you got already busted on reddit  Grin

https://amp.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/?__twitter_impression=true

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I m looking already for a longer time for a oportunity to invest money in education. As there are not many options. Today the odem.io ico is launching. I am investigating that project as well. Your whitepaper is not that clear as i dont know what exactely are you going to do with the tokens. How do they generate value? Just on free market trading? Which exchanges are you going to be listed on? I saw that you already raised >7M$. That is strange to me because you dont make a lot of publicity such other projects do for their icos. Can you proof that you already raised that money and expose the addresses where the eth or btc are on it? Would create a lot of confidence. Thx.
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SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
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Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world, Nelson Mandela


WHAT IS SOCRATESCOIN?
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Socratescoin is the currency of the knowledge industry. Based on an Ethereum blockchain open source platform, Socratescoin provides a transparent and secured distributed ledger data infrastructure. It is the currency of choice for Nauka World.

Nauka World is the virtual reality enabled global education platform together with a Science to Industry ecosystem. Nauka World provides the world's leading scientific education enabling a lifelong creation of deep learning and knowledge transference.

We are pleased to announce a rich platform of digital currency, scientific breakthrough, Virtual Reality education technologies and job creation capabilities for the next century of leadership.


THE COIN OF THE KNOWLEDGE INDUSTRY
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Socratescoin has acquired patent and intellectual property rights of a unique portfolio of science originally developed by the International Space Station Russian Module - Nauka. These rights have subsequently been extended to include Nobel scientists, universities, institutions and private sector research labs around the world.

Scoratescoin has also acquired the rights for the associated scientific inventions to turn into the new technologies of tomorrow. One criterion of which science NAUKA accepts is does it solve a big enough problem for a large amount of people in order for it to be capable of becoming a $1Billion company?

Socratescoin will use a presale Token Sale to finance the introduction of its science portfolio as curriculum through Nauka University. Nauka World will house the global VR enabled Nauka University with campuses in sites of historical importance around the world. Nauka World will be a global community of faculty, students, campuses and curriculum. The students will be of all ages, cultures, locations, gender and a wide range of traditional educational qualifications. Nauka University will unite science, thought leadership around the world transforming science and commercialization through education.

Scoratescoin will facilitate investment and participation in an educational revolution that combines advanced science, the internet 3.0 capabilities and an exponentially changing world directly affecting what and how we learn. The transference of knowledge and intellectual property through sensory and educational immersion will be unlike anything currently known to mankind. The first novel describing virtual reality (VR), Orinoflow was written in the sixties by the Italia science fiction writer Lino Aldani. A little more than twenty-five years later, Neal Stephenson's science fiction novel Snow Crash presented the concept of a metaverse - a collective virtual shared space. The 3D internet provides the capability to experience an Avatar populated environment where coaching, teaching, socializing can interact with shopping, learning, entertainment and commerce. Currency transactions which are increasingly e-commerce transactions are facilitated through blockchain enabled cryptocurrencies. The collective maturation of the internet, virtual reality, blockchain and cryptocurrencies offer a unique opportunity to focus on education and science.

Socratescoin is designed to propel transformational science into the minds of the modern world.



NAUKA - YOU NOW, KNOW: PLATFORM BASIC IDEAS
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We have selected a ready for market VR enabled platform which shares infrastructure designs, leverages their investment in technology. This provides for rapid implementation at reduced costs. While serious challenges have been overcome in the delivery of this infrastructure, we can now utilize this investment and the problems they solved to focus on our vision, today. We can deliver advanced educational content for a deep learning experience in a game changing fashion.

The Socratescoin enabled Nauka World can create and launch any type of VR education project without a significant capital investment and in a reduced time-to-market. While others are interested in gaming, online stores or social networks, to name a few examples, we are focusing our team of professionals and developers on science, world-changing content and the growth and engagement with a special group of like minded people. A community.
Socratescoin and Nauka World have strategically leveraged an investment of 2.5 years and $5 million of another company's personal funds into VR technology research, the making of prototypes and getting feedback from businesses. We can now be capable of coming to market in the quickest and cheapest way possible. This will enable the Socratescoin powered Nauka World to show its capabilities to not only change how people learn but to change lives, in record time. With Socratescoin backed Nauka World learning as the platform of choice, there is no need to download any client or program; no need for expensive VR-gadgets and powerful computers - just your ordinary device and a browser of your choice.



NAUKA WORLD
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NAUKA WORLD the foundation of everything - Thinking. Knowing. Living in the happiest Place of Earth. Big answers to big questions, The science and art of genius, Education Inventing a life worth living, from chaos into order.
A life of science. The science of life.



BIG POINT PLAYER
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Big Point Player is NAUKA's first partnership and investment. It has decoded the science and art of winning and is the world's first and only, proven, replicable, modular method.
Big Point Player will be the first series of training programmes on the NAUKA platform underpinned by LIVE immersive events around the world.



EONTHY
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Eonthy's 'Science as a ServiceTM' is a combination of Scientists who specialize in Agile training, Nano technology, Photonics and Python programming. This unique relationship was born in 2015 when training a CMMI Level 5 team in Agile and Scrum to support a regional traceability initiative for the automotive sector. Our portfolio includes learning platforms for software developers, children, post-doctorate faculty, nanotechnologists, advanced photonics and Master's Level Montessori method certifiers. We have a portfolio of nano-technologies, security algorithms and combine it with mature commercialization relationships in the education, information technology, automotive and defence manufacturing sectors. We combine capital and partnerships to protect the global market development of patents, technologies and people.



NAUKA SPORTS
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Nauka has partnered with Eonthy Sports and Big Point Player acquire licensing rights to a Multi-Sport Social Media integrated App using advanced Analytics and Deep Machine Learning to create pleasure, fitness and educational experiences.



COIN ASSURITY
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Coin Assurity is a blockchain based SaaS offering that allows a unique set of features to support BlockChain investment, Asset Protection and market visibility for Crypto Currencies.



ISSUANCE OF TOKENS
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SOCRATES COIN tokens will be issued on the Ethereum network and will be freely traded on the open market. Ethereum is an open-source project which allows creation of smart contracts and provides users with a secure and fast transaction system.



SOCRATESCOIN ALLOCATION
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https://i.imgur.com/H8mEcWW.png?1



TOKEN, PRESALE AND TOKEN SALE INFO
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We are rising:                               46,900,000 USD
Symbol:                                       SAPIS
Token Sale Token Price:                 1.11 USD
Payment Methods:                        Bitcoin (BTC) & Ethereum (ETH)
Token Sale Start Date:                  February 11, 2018
Token Sale End Date:                    April 11, 2018
Total Supply:                                469,000,000 SAPIS TOKENS
Initial Token Distribution Date:       15 days after Token Sale completion



TOKEN SALE GOALS, LIMITS AND FUND DISTRIBUTION
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When we collect the equivalent of $46.9M, the Token Sale will close at that moment and no additional funds will be accepted.

Since we will be accepting different currencies, we will evaluate all our Token Sale income at the time of token purchase. That means a buyer of our tokens in the Token Sale period will get the exact amount of tokens that their bitcoins or ether will be worth at the time of transaction. CoinDesk USD exchange rates will be used in the process.

SAPIS token distribution will be provided in 15 days after Token Sale completion, taking all checks and safeguards into account. Socratescoin will provide high grade liquidity for blockchain based project Nauka World. Trading of tokens SAPIS limited will promote and add Socratescoin tokens to as many marketplaces as possible

More detail information about our mission along with team members is presented on our official web page and in WHITEPAPER -> https://socratescoin.io/whitepaper.pdf.
For the latest news, articles, interviews, videos follow our social media pages.



CONTACT
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SocratesCoin website: https://socratescoin.io
Twitter: https://twitter.com/socratescoin
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/socratescoin
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Socreatescoin
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/socrates-coin-b653a9157
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E-mail: [email protected]
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