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April 18, 2018, 08:18:00 AM

I don't see how you get that....
500/64750*86.4-15% = 0.5671042471042471 SEM (Mdd) Per day based on your voting.
500/53650*86.4-15% = 0.6844361602982293 SEM (mdd2)
The mddong pools are 15%

They have 64750 and 53650 votes respectively.
So, based on the same example I layed out in my prior two posts (having 10,000 votes).....

10000/74750 = 0.1337792642140468 * 86.4 = 11.55852842809364 - 15% = 9.824749163879594 sem mddsemuxpool
10000/63650 = 0.1571091908876669 * 86.4 = 13.57423409269442 - 15% = 11.53809897879026 sem mddsemuxpool2
10000/53000 = 0.1886792452830189 * 86.4 = 16.30188679245283 - 15% = 13.85660377358491 sem melvin

Based on the above, the pool Melvin still pays more.
This is only based on the numbers at this moment.

That said....
10000/53500 = 0.1869158878504673 * 86.4 = 16.14953271028037 - 8% = 14.85757009345794 sem sofia

So, sofia pays the most that I know of, but isn't advertised as being a public pool even though it is.


Hi Michail1,
your formula was unflawed when I applied in my case. But I wonder how you can obtain all statistic numbers of fee for every pool.
Would you mind giving me the source to calculate my voting? Many thanks in advance.
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April 18, 2018, 08:15:24 AM
Bounty hunters need enough patience to wait for the BelugaPay's release, hoping that the bull market in the half year will be a big bull market.
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April 18, 2018, 04:50:45 AM
Semux people take the time to take some, this is a coin project through the bull bear, the team is very low - tuning, is in the middle of the development, after the exchange on the exchange
I find that the number of confirmed airdrops is only a few hundred, which means that many people don't seem to know this activity yet.
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April 18, 2018, 02:03:30 AM
I get a little Semux pick up from airdrop and I hope soon there will be an exchange to buy more. I highly appreciate the Semux development team.
This time you want to buy more Semuxs, you can go to the OTC thread. People are selling so much there, you can buy cheap without waiting for the exchange site.
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April 18, 2018, 12:05:16 AM
I get a little Semux pick up from airdrop and I hope soon there will be an exchange to buy more. I highly appreciate the Semux development team.
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April 17, 2018, 11:26:43 PM
 The airdrop website has been updated to allow repeat entries. If you made a mistake before, you may submit again (we only count the first valid entry though).
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April 17, 2018, 07:56:55 PM
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Is Melvin your pool?

No, it is not mine.  I do have votes in it though.


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what way do you figure out the best pool.

your votes / pool votes * sem_per_day - pool_fee = profit
remember, if you haven't voted yet, so to figure out what you would make (assuming no votes are made or unvoted from the pool during that time)...
your votes / (pool votes+yourvotes) * sem_per_day - pool_fee = profit

sem_per_day is an average number.  This is 86.4SEM  ----   2880 blocks per day / 100 validators = 28.8 blocks * reward (3 sem) = 86.4



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do you a list of pools but pay betters?

I suggest you setup a spreadsheet in order to calculate returns on votes based on pools fees and the number of votes they have.  I know someone working a live version.
Consider also that public pools don't (by default) count your votes for the first 200 blocks (100 minutes) in order to prevent pool hoppers.

The pools I know of right now are:

Sofia 8% (not officially public, so rate could change, but it is paying.)
Richkid 10% (not officially public, so rate could change, but it is paying.)
Kolten 10% (public)
Melvin 15% (public)
Wilson 15% (not officially public, yada)

Also, you can find others that are setup as public pools that are not listed by voting for random pools to see if you get paid.  (Warning... you could miss out on profits during this time AND pools might be paying pools, but if you quit within the 24 hours, you're likely to miss paying pools which are setup to not pay out to quitters.)






You should try to mddong pool, that a decent one. I waiting on the weekend to calculate my profit. Voted ~ 500 coin and received ~ 1 per day.

I don't see how you get that....
500/64750*86.4-15% = 0.5671042471042471 SEM (Mdd) Per day based on your voting.
500/53650*86.4-15% = 0.6844361602982293 SEM (mdd2)
The mddong pools are 15%

They have 64750 and 53650 votes respectively.
So, based on the same example I layed out in my prior two posts (having 10,000 votes).....

10000/74750 = 0.1337792642140468 * 86.4 = 11.55852842809364 - 15% = 9.824749163879594 sem mddsemuxpool
10000/63650 = 0.1571091908876669 * 86.4 = 13.57423409269442 - 15% = 11.53809897879026 sem mddsemuxpool2
10000/53000 = 0.1886792452830189 * 86.4 = 16.30188679245283 - 15% = 13.85660377358491 sem melvin

Based on the above, the pool Melvin still pays more.
This is only based on the numbers at this moment.

That said....
10000/53500 = 0.1869158878504673 * 86.4 = 16.14953271028037 - 8% = 14.85757009345794 sem sofia

So, sofia pays the most that I know of, but isn't advertised as being a public pool even though it is.

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April 17, 2018, 07:21:14 PM
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Is Melvin your pool?

No, it is not mine.  I do have votes in it though.


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what way do you figure out the best pool.

your votes / pool votes * sem_per_day - pool_fee = profit
remember, if you haven't voted yet, so to figure out what you would make (assuming no votes are made or unvoted from the pool during that time)...
your votes / (pool votes+yourvotes) * sem_per_day - pool_fee = profit

sem_per_day is an average number.  This is 86.4SEM  ----   2880 blocks per day / 100 validators = 28.8 blocks * reward (3 sem) = 86.4



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do you a list of pools but pay betters?

I suggest you setup a spreadsheet in order to calculate returns on votes based on pools fees and the number of votes they have.  I know someone working a live version.
Consider also that public pools don't (by default) count your votes for the first 200 blocks (100 minutes) in order to prevent pool hoppers.

The pools I know of right now are:

Sofia 8% (not officially public, so rate could change, but it is paying.)
Richkid 10% (not officially public, so rate could change, but it is paying.)
Kolten 10% (public)
Melvin 15% (public)
Wilson 15% (not officially public, yada)

Also, you can find others that are setup as public pools that are not listed by voting for random pools to see if you get paid.  (Warning... you could miss out on profits during this time AND pools might be paying pools, but if you quit within the 24 hours, you're likely to miss paying pools which are setup to not pay out to quitters.)






You should try to mddong pool, that a decent one. I waiting on the weekend to calculate my profit. Voted ~ 500 coin and received ~ 1 per day.
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April 17, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
Semux v1.1.0 is released https://github.com/semuxproject/semux/releases. This release addresses the validator reward distribution issue; everyone is encouraged to upgrade.

Update (2018/04/16)
v1.0.0 and v1.0.1 validator nodes can no longer forge blocks as UNIFORM_DISTRIBUTION fork has been activated at block 233514.
There are still 15 outdated validators at this moment.

Update (2018/04/18)
semux666 (0xbfc7031d2ebacc8b76a6fc33b29b071dddeb2e52) is now the only validator who hasn't upgraded to v1.1
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April 17, 2018, 01:31:16 PM
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Is Melvin your pool?

No, it is not mine.  I do have votes in it though.


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what way do you figure out the best pool.

your votes / pool votes * sem_per_day - pool_fee = profit
remember, if you haven't voted yet, so to figure out what you would make (assuming no votes are made or unvoted from the pool during that time)...
your votes / (pool votes+yourvotes) * sem_per_day - pool_fee = profit

sem_per_day is an average number.  This is 86.4SEM  ----   2880 blocks per day / 100 validators = 28.8 blocks * reward (3 sem) = 86.4



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do you a list of pools but pay betters?

I suggest you setup a spreadsheet in order to calculate returns on votes based on pools fees and the number of votes they have.  I know someone working a live version.
Consider also that public pools don't (by default) count your votes for the first 200 blocks (100 minutes) in order to prevent pool hoppers.

The pools I know of right now are:

Sofia 8% (not officially public, so rate could change, but it is paying.)
Richkid 10% (not officially public, so rate could change, but it is paying.)
Kolten 10% (public)
Melvin 15% (public)
Wilson 15% (not officially public, yada)

Also, you can find others that are setup as public pools that are not listed by voting for random pools to see if you get paid.  (Warning... you could miss out on profits during this time AND pools might be paying pools, but if you quit within the 24 hours, you're likely to miss paying pools which are setup to not pay out to quitters.)




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April 17, 2018, 12:01:51 PM
New public pool.

Vote for "leoirssi" delegate with only 10% fee, minimum payout 0.25 and daily payout at 1:00PM CET.
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April 17, 2018, 10:54:02 AM
An update on my situation:

I actually did manage to sign a message using MyEtherWallet offline.  Even though the link at the bottom of index.html tries to take me online, there is another HTML file called signmsg.html which works fine!  It was just a matter of opening the HTML file directly.
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April 17, 2018, 10:40:10 AM

Thank you for your info.
but this is my history in 100_tokenpar_com ( 1 week i got only ~2,53 semux with 543 vote) and ( 3days with another pool i got ~2 semux. i'll wait until end of this week to summary again)

100_tokenpar_com charges 0%, but has 105,000 votes
Semuxpool_com2 charges 15%, but has 51,000 votes

Let's say you have 10,000 votes and each pool earns about 86.4 sem per day (average)

10000/115000 = 0.0869565217391304 * 86.4 = 7.513043478260867
10000/61000 = 0.1639344262295082 * 86.4  = 14.16393442622951 - 15% = 12.03934426229508

So, you earn almost twice as much as the pool that doesn't charge a fee.

People are so afraid of the 15% fee, they don't realize they could make a lot more SEM if they run the numbers.

To take this example further....

Melvin also charges 15%, but has 43,000 votes.
So, with your same 10,000 to keep in line with the above example...
10000/53000 = 0.1886792452830189 * 86.4  = 16.30188679245283 - 15% = 13.85660377358491

So, although Semuxpool_com2 and Melvin have the same fee, you earn more (over 1.8 SEM) with Melvin.



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Cryptopony
April 17, 2018, 07:14:55 AM
On the OP I didn't find the instructions for getting the different forms of airdrops listed there: bitcoin holders, bitcoin talk profiles etc.

Now only airdrop for ETH holders active, others drops finished.
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April 17, 2018, 07:08:11 AM
On the OP I didn't find the instructions for getting the different forms of airdrops listed there: bitcoin holders, bitcoin talk profiles etc.
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April 17, 2018, 06:35:20 AM
Someone gets a warning "you walet.data is not secured plaese set its permission level to 600" after an update semux 1.1.0?
What does it mean?

It means the permission level of your wallet.data is not properly configured such that other users in your system can see its content.
Running this command can fix the issue:
Code:
chmod 600 wallet.data

Yes, thanks helped, now does not crash.



Today I went into my wallet and synchronized, and saw that the semux came for the airdrop. Even with an incorrectly filled application.
Thank you)
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April 17, 2018, 05:20:24 AM
Thank you for your info.
but this is my history in 100_tokenpar_com ( 1 week i got only ~2,53 semux with 543 vote) and ( 3days with another pool i got ~2 semux. i'll wait until end of this week to summary again)

Also in your place, I would try to vote for someone from the delegates who are at the bottom of the list to have the full picture.
It is possible that you will get a little more than in from previous delegates)
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Cryptopony
April 17, 2018, 05:04:20 AM
Hello, what is the last day I can join ETH holders airdrop? When it will end?


If You want to participate, here's no reason to wait. Only 2000000 SEM recerved to drop, when they distributed, drop ends.
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April 17, 2018, 04:59:04 AM
Hello, what is the last day I can join ETH holders airdrop? When it will end?
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April 17, 2018, 01:07:59 AM
100_tokenpar_com
votes 100000

Semuxpool_com2
votes    50000

It explains itself.
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