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Topic: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper - page 34. (Read 58444 times)

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Although the concept of the coin and the measures the dev has taken in order to keep things as fair as possible deserve a big kudos, there are a few issues that need to be addressed asap:

1. There is no open source standalone miner.
2. There seems to be no official plan for a public pool.
3. It is not possible to manage the wallet from the command line under GNU/Linux, unless you have enough free RAM to run the internal miner thread.
4. On Windows and Linux the wallet does not seem to sync if 'ramhogthreads=0'.
5. The provided config file should have more sane default values, at least ramhogthreads should be zero.


1+2 There have been several requests for a standalone miner and public pool.  For miner and pool source must be released for people to trust nothing nefarious is in the binaries.  I also request the source for both standalone miner and pool be released here, and I also will point my hashing power to the mining pool.
4 I am currently working on a way to verify hashes without running ramhog to validate the blocks and requiring 15 GB RAM.  The way it would work would be the checkpoint node would verify sign the list of hashes so that the client itself would have the option of verifying itself or using the validated hash list signed by the checkpoint node.  As the block height increases it will take longer and longer to download and validate the full chain, one of the drawbacks of ramhog.  I hope to include this optional feature to the client within a week.
newbie
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Is there an exchange or thread to tradding?
hero member
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Although the concept of the coin and the measures the dev has taken in order to keep things as fair as possible deserve a big kudos, there are a few issues that need to be addressed asap:

3. It is not possible to manage the wallet from the command line under GNU/Linux, unless you have enough free RAM to run the internal miner thread.
4. On Windows and Linux the wallet does not seem to sync if 'ramhogthreads=0'.
5. The provided config file should have more sane default values, at least ramhogthreads should be zero.


I have covered these questions already, but let's reiterate; the answer to these is simple: how does a wallet know which blocks are valid and can be accepted? The only way is to hash the block header with ramhog and check if the hash is below target, which requires 15 GB memory at minimum.
There is no way this can be changed without a hard fork that changes the hashing algo.
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Hashpower for the pool, please...  http://106.3.225.46/
works fine now.


Has this pool processed any payments so far?

@7000years... yes... the default settings for the wallet is sic.
mine means kill  Tongue

Expecting from people to run the wallet in order to send/receive coins on a 32GB box is simply insane. I mean, it's like expecting someone to have 3 gfx cards on the box that checks his emails! Smiley


All the blocks mined so far by the pool (3) are orphaned, I'm looking into it as I speak.. I would suggest mining solo for now.

pool seems down now.

Pool is back up!! The miner binaries have been updated to fix block submission.
Re-downloading these is required.

Linux standalone miner: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbfxvmoryekyq5i/shinyminer
Windows 64-bit standalone miner: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0l4hjypmrg48x6t/shinyminer.zip
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Hashpower for the pool, please...  http://106.3.225.46/
works fine now.


Has this pool processed any payments so far?

@7000years... yes... the default settings for the wallet is sic.
mine means kill  Tongue

Expecting from people to run the wallet in order to send/receive coins on a 32GB box is simply insane. I mean, it's like expecting someone to have 3 gfx cards on the box that checks his emails! Smiley


All the blocks mined so far by the pool (3) are orphaned, I'm looking into it as I speak.. I would suggest mining solo for now.

pool seems down now.
legendary
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WTS 15,000 Shinys for 12BTC

keep dreaming, nobody will buy at that price.

Shiny is the new Monero, what i am offering is a bargain.

why would anyone buy this coin ? what can I do with it ?
i need to go to the RAM store just to run a wallet Smiley
and it was closed at friday and saturday

I will pay 0.5 BTC for your 15000 shiny PM me

WTS 30,000 for 15BTC
newbie
Activity: 42
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WTS 15,000 Shinys for 12BTC

keep dreaming, nobody will buy at that price.

Shiny is the new Monero, what i am offering is a bargain.

why would anyone buy this coin ? what can I do with it ?
i need to go to the RAM store just to run a wallet Smiley
and it was closed at friday and saturday

I will pay 0.5 BTC for your 15000 shiny PM me
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Hashpower for the pool, please...  http://106.3.225.46/
works fine now.


Has this pool processed any payments so far?

@7000years... yes... the default settings for the wallet is sic.
mine means kill  Tongue

Expecting from people to run the wallet in order to send/receive coins on a 32GB box is simply insane. I mean, it's like expecting someone to have 3 gfx cards on the box that checks his emails! Smiley


All the blocks mined so far by the pool (3) are orphaned, I'm looking into it as I speak.. I would suggest mining solo for now.
sr. member
Activity: 330
Merit: 252
Hashpower for the pool, please...  http://106.3.225.46/
works fine now.


@7000years... yes... the default settings for the wallet is sic.
mine means kill  Tongue
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Pool is fixed : http://106.3.225.46/, no more connection time out.
If we find a block I can publish the miner source code.

...are you working on the pool - or do I kill you slightly with my pc's? Wink
after switching more than 2 or 3 machines on (43hash per machine) connection timeouts occure again.

I'm occasionally restarting the pool after making some changes, so that will cause time out errors.

my shares start from zero - are you stable to leave some machines on over night, or do I hash into the dustbin?

A example for solo mining for the other guys would be kind, you know.
you will get you hash as first pool.

The shares you see stats page doesn't reflect your total shares, they are not reset anyway.
sr. member
Activity: 330
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Pool is fixed : http://106.3.225.46/, no more connection time out.
If we find a block I can publish the miner source code.

...are you working on the pool - or do I kill you slightly with my pc's? Wink
after switching more than 2 or 3 machines on (43hash per machine) connection timeouts occure again.

I'm occasionally restarting the pool after making some changes, so that will cause time out errors.

my shares start from zero - are you stable to leave some machines on over night, or do I hash into the dustbin?

A example for solo mining for the other guys would be kind, you know.
you will get you hash as first pool.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Miner binaries have been updated, optimizations applied and performance is boosted!
Linux : https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbfxvmoryekyq5i/shinyminer
Win x64 : https://www.dropbox.com/s/0l4hjypmrg48x6t/shinyminer.zip
I am getting ~40 H/m on 8-core Linux machine.

There are the following options:

Code:
--coinbase-addr=ADDR  payout address for solo mining
--coinbase-sig=TEXT  data to insert in the coinbase when possible

Could you provide an example about how to solo mine while paying the mined coins to ADDR?

Thanks for your work.


Source code is better.

I agree. Only open-source is secure enough. I don't get it why the source is not released. If the dev wants donations, he could put an address for donations.


I am forced to release the source by the GPL licence, I will do it as soon as the pool mines its first block.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Pool is fixed : http://106.3.225.46/, no more connection time out.
If we find a block I can publish the miner source code.

...are you working on the pool - or do I kill you slightly with my pc's? Wink
after switching more than 2 or 3 machines on (43hash per machine) connection timeouts occure again.

I'm occasionally restarting the pool after making some changes, so that will cause time out errors.
sr. member
Activity: 330
Merit: 252
Pool is fixed : http://106.3.225.46/, no more connection time out.
If we find a block I can publish the miner source code.

...are you working on the pool - or do I kill you slightly with my pc's? Wink
after switching more than 2 or 3 machines on (43hash per machine) connection timeouts occure again.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000

What proof is that? Cheesy Read my post if you want to be informed, ramhogthreads != cpu threads.

Question was asked if a 8core CPU can be utilized 100% with 1 thread(15GB RAM) - the answer is NO. I am getting MORE hashespermin when using 2 threads (30GB RAM).
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Proof regarding my CPU utilization claim few posts up :

Server i7 4770 (4 cores / 8 threads), 32GB ram

ramhogthreads=1
[root@CentOS-65-64-minimal .shinycoin]# ./shinycoind getmininginfo
{
    "blocks" : 149,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.00000122,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : true,
    "genproclimit" : 1,
   "hashespermin" : 25,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

ramhogthreads=2
[root@CentOS-65-64-minimal .shinycoin]# ./shinycoind getmininginfo
{
    "blocks" : 149,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.00000122,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : true,
    "genproclimit" : 2,
   "hashespermin" : 37,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

What proof is that? Cheesy Read my post if you want to be informed, ramhogthreads != cpu threads.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
WTS 15,000 Shinys for 12BTC

keep dreaming, nobody will buy at that price.

Shiny is the new Monero, what i am offering is a bargain.

why would anyone buy this coin ? what can I do with it ?
i need to go to the RAM store just to run a wallet Smiley
and it was closed at friday and saturday
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
At least 15G of memory! Meaning: Most people can not participate

Where shiny future

Where is your plan

the worst part is that you need 32gb to mine at full potential, basically we need a server lol

16 GB is up to 16 cpu threads, 32 GB is up to 32 cpu threads, etc...
If the # of cpu threads is >16 and isn't a multiple of 16, then you aren't mining at full potential.

32gb for mining , so practically  it is not possible to  mine this on home pc at full potential ?

It's possible to mine if you have 15 GB of free memory.

As requested; static binary for linux : https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbfxvmoryekyq5i/shinyminer
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
At least 15G of memory! Meaning: Most people can not participate

Where shiny future

Where is your plan

the worst part is that you need 32gb to mine at full potential, basically we need a server lol

16 GB is up to 16 cpu threads, 32 GB is up to 32 cpu threads, etc...
If the # of cpu threads is >16 and isn't a multiple of 16, then you aren't mining at full potential.

32gb for mining , so practically  it is not possible to  mine this on home pc at full potential ?
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