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Topic: [ANN][SILKCOIN][DARKSILK PREANN][TESTING STORMNODES/DarkSIlk MARKET/I2P] - page 205. (Read 289509 times)

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psychocoin, current IRC room is #grandbazaar on frenode
Uh - there is one person idling there, while there are 28 in #silkcoin. I think it makes more sense to get ownership of #silkcoin and #silk cause that's what people would naturally join when looking for our room and like I said - we don't need to contact the owners of those rooms, just prove to a freenode admin that we represent Silkcoin project on github - and ownership will be given to us.
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psychocoin, current IRC room is #grandbazaar on frenode
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Why a self moderated topic?
There is no rational reason. Of the 20 largest altcoin threads, only UTC, XC and ZEIT are self-moderated. Come on, with most people still bitter from the losses after the demise of the first team, Silk needs every bit of credibility it can get and I don't think this is helping the coin at all.
Lol  Sorry to explain that... are you new to the Silk threads?
Nope not new, I'll just quote what was said on the first page again and then try to explain my point better.

I'm not too sure about the main ANN being self-moderated. I have no serious suspicions myself but It's a red flag for many people as it restricts free speech, among other possible things, so it's not actually beneficial to have in my opinion, even if it makes sense from the viewpoint of an honest Dev team. But everyone is more cautious and trust people less than ever now, so they have little reason to blindly trust this specific case when a red flag is apparent, so many people will turn away without so much as reading the first post and never look back, so that has to be considered if we want the coin to succeed.

The main threads are supposed to be "anything goes". Whatever criticism, chaos, trolling and FUD may take place - all coins have to deal with it, and a strong coin will endure it and come out stronger every time the FUD gets debunked and every time the Dev team delivers their promise. You know what they say - no such thing as bad publicity, even in the cryptocoin world.

It's still early and nothing would be lost if the main ANN was relaunched as unmoderated.
And I suggest a new "Serious discussion" thread be made too, and that should be the self-moderated one. A link to that one should be easily visible on the first post.

Please consider this, I do want SC to succeed.

Understand where you're coming from but to be honest, I didn't grow up playing in punk and metal bands to be the foul swoop of oppression of freedom.  If the mod in this forum turns into oppression, I invite you to draw and quarter me. Now I don't want to be drawn and quartered.  So we should be safe here for a fair and open thread.
  The only aim is to not have a garbage heap of a a thread, to stay on topic and stop people from killing each other.
There will be very light moderation - no worries there.
 Grin
Just wanna say - it doesn't bother me personally, but your answer did not provide any arguments for why self-moderating is more beneficial to the project than the default setting where if someone seriously disturbs the thread the a forum moderator would take care of it - why is anything more than that needed at the cost of losing many people's trust?

Take a look at this thread to see that people do consider Self-moderating as a sign of a scam. Plain and simple. To many of them it looks like this:

"Self-moderating? Dev can and probably will delete all criticism even if it's valid, which is NOT something a strong coin would need to resort to. Or the Dev is preparing for the day they abandon ship and run with coins, while silencing all those who voice suspicions."

This was a paraphrased quote of what I read on IRC after telling people about the new Silk. So yeah, guess what people think about a coin that needs to feel the safety of a censor button? That it's WEAK and can't let people criticize it! It doesn't mean that is true, but that is what people logically assume because they have been burned by trusting someone before already and they have no reason to trust you! If we want to change that - start a new normal ANN thread for the interest of the general public where all concerns are free to be voiced. Then, change the title and the first post of this one so it becomes the self-moderated "Serious" community thread which won't have any of the garbage you think would befall the ANN thread.

We have a responsive community now and people being around to prove critics or fudders wrong will improve the coin's credibility! I repeat, I only want what's best for the coin as a stakeholder myself, which is why I want people not to run away with doubts because of a small matter such as this. It's good to stand up for our coin, but the way people do it on this forum is by using proof and arguments, not just deleting whatever they don't like!

Few more things - do we have an IRC presence? We should! We could take over both #silkcoin and #silk if someone with the access to github goes to #help on irc.freenode.net and PM's one the voiced (+ in front of name) people there and tell that you represent SilkCoin - the brand with its name in #silkcoin and #silk chat rooms that you would like to get ownership of, as the rightful representative of the project) and , then prove it with github and you will be passed ownership of those channels. Alternatively - /message Wavey (the owner of #Silk) or silkcoin (owner of #silkcoin) but they both appear offline so just ask the admins at #help Wink #silkcoin is being spammed by a shitty bot owned by the previous operator of the room, I think, so as new owner you should also ban that. I think with help of admins it could also be possible to seize "silkcoin" nickname, as that is our brand too.

As many people as possible from the dev and management team should be hanging in the room - it increases user confidence A LOT if a dev is sometimes there to chat, answer to questions, tell some ETAs... And then a lot more people would join the chatroom because it would be a source of possible exclusive info. Smiley

Also - I think it would be nice to see much more details in the first post, I would personally like to see a list with all forum names of people involved in Silk and their main roles if any. The public doesn't see what happens on Trello so they have no idea how many people have actually volunteered to work hard as a team and deliver the true potential of the coin.

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I vote for Silk for name and SLK for ticker.

There is no voting and it won't be changed.

LOL, well I guess that's been decided then, guys, might as well pack up and go home -- SirChiko will take over from here.
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Website http://silkcoin.moniq.sk/ belongs to bitcointalk user moniq https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/moniq-352179.
She created the design and will communicate here as soon as the user account is online long enough to create comments. The donation SC address for design is still valid.
She may decide to publish new donation address for future work Smiley
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Website http://silkcoin.moniq.sk/ belongs to bitcointalk user moniq https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/moniq-352179.
She created the design and will communicate here as soon as the user account is online long enough to create comments. The donation SC address for design is still valid.
She may decide to publish new donation address for future work Smiley
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I vote for Silk for name and SLK for ticker.

There is no voting and it won't be changed.
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Please add a poll.

I would prefer Silk with the SLK ticker

EDIT: Wallet still not syncing. (10.9.3)

tried almost everything...

Joker, did you download the blockchain zip? If so, try doing a clean install of the wallet WITHOUT it, and just leave your machine on for a few hours to sync from scratch. That worked perfectly for me. Also, if you're on Windows, make sure you're not running a 3rd-party firewall that might be blocking the sync.

Ben

Tried both. with a clean blockchain and with the zip blockchain.

If i download the wallet and delete everything in the folder except wallet.dat it syncs till 60000, from that amount it's going very slowly. it went from 60000 to 60147 in 12 hours. (Enough nodes and 120mbit/s)
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Please add a poll.

I would prefer Silk with the SLK ticker

EDIT: Wallet still not syncing. (10.9.3)

tried almost everything...

Joker, did you download the blockchain zip? If so, try doing a clean install of the wallet WITHOUT it, and just leave your machine on for a few hours to sync from scratch. That worked perfectly for me. Also, if you're on Windows, make sure you're not running a 3rd-party firewall that might be blocking the sync.

Ben
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Everywhere is SC, why do you change it? It's the only good thing from past.

Name change would have the opposite effect, it would be suspicious. "Hey Silk are those of SilkCoin, they only change name"

Don't be afraid about past. Wink

Proud to be NEW SilkCoin! o/

Btw in case:





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I too would like a new ticker - SILK or SLK Smiley

And call the currency Silk instead of SilkCoin! We need a distinction as clear as possible!
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Please add a poll.

I would prefer Silk with the SLK ticker

EDIT: Wallet still not syncing. (10.9.3)

tried almost everything...
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Why a self moderated topic?
There is no rational reason. Of the 20 largest altcoin threads, only UTC, XC and ZEIT are self-moderated. Come on, with most people still bitter from the losses after the demise of the first team, Silk needs every bit of credibility it can get and I don't think this is helping the coin at all.
Lol  Sorry to explain that... are you new to the Silk threads?
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Nice! Got my 19K coins back! Thanks DEV's Cool
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I would not have "coin" in the name..

Silk or Silk camel if you want to keep the SC ticker

If it gets coin in the name I also go with Silkcoin
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Team, we immediately need to decide once and for all exactly what the name of our coin is.

Silkcoin
SilkCoin
Silk Coin
Silk


Brand new websites, merchant graphics, social media pages and articles are going live... consistency is critical to successful branding.

Arteleis, if a vote is necessary, let's get one up at the top of this thread ASAP.
Personally, I think Silkcoin is the most elegant.

Ben
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CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
Wallet for it looks so nice ! I will start mining it and maybe even buy some.
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now i won't be a bagholder
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Ben's Bounties v.2

UPDATE 2.1: Jul. 5/14: Bounties modified to reflect current tech goals

5,000 - for securing www.silkcoin.co and transferring control to the webmaster our community nominates. Invoice and whois confirm required for payout.
PAYOUT PENDING TO pandionrain AWAITING CONFIRM

10,000 - for 10 positive news and promo Tweets from a crypto-related account with more than 1000 followers.

10,000 - for arranging a "Silkcoin Takeover" Coindesk article. Probably best to secure after the next stable update is released. Correspondence with author required for payout.

30,000 - for designing and publishing a new website at www.silkcoin.co ... our new public face!
PAYOUT PENDING TO moniq AWAITING CONFIRM (first 5K sent Jul. 5)

50,000 -I'm going to let the community vote on this one... Android wallet? Building the marketplace framework? Coding an in-wallet chat engine?
(Re: the previous version of this bounty - the consensus is we're going to build and optimize using the current code base; BTC 0.9.2.1+ migration once it's a proven success)


You can now find the funds here:
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I will pay them out as each task is completed. PM me on here if you're entitled to one.


Here's who's pledged to match my bounties so far.
*** These are all voluntary and self-directed, so it will be claimants' responsibility to follow up with the respective pledgers
*** The community bounties being held in escrow by BadAss.Sx are completely separate

Mr. Joker - 20% MATCH - Thread message #836
Arteleis - 100% MATCH - Thread message #842
ifxist - 100% MATCH - Thread message #866

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sc-silkcoin-takeover-and-rebuilding-discussionproposal-664918

Cheers to everybody's hard work!

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