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Quote from: Sterlingcoin on September 27, 2014, 06:55:11 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 06:42:43 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 06:10:27 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:50:07 PM

Ok first part is clear to me, but to honest I dont understand

closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage the 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

My coins in wallet are "mining" and make new coins for me. But why staked blocks will be divided by 2 is unclear to me Huh

the reason for it is to keep the network running smooth

when POW is over the network needs to replace the new POW block created every 2 minutes with new stake blocks created every 2 minutes but there wont be enough users with open wallets to do this so the network will collapse

the way around that is for the wallet to divide each staked block by 2 which will create twice as many blocks then when everyone stakes again we get 4x then 8x then 16 times and then there is enough people staking many blocks to allow transactions to take place every 2 minutes and every block counts as a confirmation in a transaction

I think we don't have coin control yet (I may be wrong I cant be bothered looking) but when the dev sees the coin can support itself in pure POS mode then they will give us coin control so we can regroup our small blocks back into big ones

#

it seems the devs have given us coin control but just look at it for now don't use it until you know you have figured out how to use it. its easy to group coins that could have been staked and loose the interest

you can enable it in settings

Sterlingcoin is YOUR currency. Why shouldn't you be able to earn interest on YOUR currency the second its in YOUR possession?

Also Coin Control (amazing name) is exactly that, you in control of your Sterlingcoin.

But. Be careful, this is intended for advanced users only.

agree, its too easy to loose stakeable coins enable with caution

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We do also advise to reduce risk if you guys want to start moving folders and files in the hidden data directory (/Sterlingcoin) to a new wallet to detach databases at shutdown.

This can be found within the options of the Sterlingcoin-QT wallet.

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Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 06:42:43 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 06:10:27 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:50:07 PM

Ok first part is clear to me, but to honest I dont understand

closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage the 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

My coins in wallet are "mining" and make new coins for me. But why staked blocks will be divided by 2 is unclear to me Huh

the reason for it is to keep the network running smooth

when POW is over the network needs to replace the new POW block created every 2 minutes with new stake blocks created every 2 minutes but there wont be enough users with open wallets to do this so the network will collapse

the way around that is for the wallet to divide each staked block by 2 which will create twice as many blocks then when everyone stakes again we get 4x then 8x then 16 times and then there is enough people staking many blocks to allow transactions to take place every 2 minutes and every block counts as a confirmation in a transaction

I think we don't have coin control yet (I may be wrong I cant be bothered looking) but when the dev sees the coin can support itself in pure POS mode then they will give us coin control so we can regroup our small blocks back into big ones

#

it seems the devs have given us coin control but just look at it for now don't use it until you know you have figured out how to use it. its easy to group coins that could have been staked and loose the interest

you can enable it in settings

Sterlingcoin is YOUR currency. Why shouldn't you be able to earn interest on YOUR currency the second its in YOUR possession?

Also Coin Control (amazing name) is exactly that, you in control of your Sterlingcoin.

But. Be careful, this is intended for advanced users only.

frant100

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Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 06:10:27 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:50:07 PM

Ok first part is clear to me, but to honest I dont understand

closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage the 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

My coins in wallet are "mining" and make new coins for me. But why staked blocks will be divided by 2 is unclear to me Huh

the reason for it is to keep the network running smooth

when POW is over the network needs to replace the new POW block created every 2 minutes with new stake blocks created every 2 minutes but there wont be enough users with open wallets to do this so the network will collapse

the way around that is for the wallet to divide each staked block by 2 which will create twice as many blocks then when everyone stakes again we get 4x then 8x then 16 times and then there is enough people staking many blocks to allow transactions to take place every 2 minutes and every block counts as a confirmation in a transaction

I think we don't have coin control yet (I may be wrong I cant be bothered looking) but when the dev sees the coin can support itself in pure POS mode then they will give us coin control so we can regroup our small blocks back into big ones

#

it seems the devs have given us coin control but just look at it for now don't use it until you know you have figured out how to use it. its easy to group coins that could have been staked and loose the interest

you can enable it in settings

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Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 06:28:52 PM

Whole process is now clear!
Thanks dev!

No problem. It seemed from the help of the community and final word from us, all has been made clear. Well done all Wink

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Whole process is now clear!
Thanks dev!

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Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 06:20:07 PM

frant100 - what else to say then thanks - saying whole process with simple words

DEV- thanks for detailed explain !
So If i send some coins to market I will need to repeat process so staking start again?

as I read yes if you send out coins it will interrupt the staking process so you will need to unlock the wallet for staking again via the settings menu

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Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 06:20:07 PM

frant100 - what else to say then thanks - saying whole process with simple words

DEV- thanks for detailed explain !
So If i send some coins to market I will need to repeat process so staking start again?

Correct.

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frant100 - what else to say then thanks - saying whole process with simple words

DEV- thanks for detailed explain !
So If i send some coins to market I will need to repeat process so staking start again?

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Quote from: Sterlingcoin on September 27, 2014, 06:12:04 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:52:52 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:43:48 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:23:26 PM

So in case of SLG

PoW Period: 6 Months
PoW Ends: Block 131,400
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

If I understand -until POW period is over ( in this case 6 month) it is not relevant is my wallet open or not until I have coins on it. If I now close my wallet and open it after 30 days, I got something for stake.
But after POW period is over, if my wallet is open then it give some "power" to network.

yes that is correct

pow or pos dosent matter about open close

even when pure pos it dosent matter about open close but in pure pos it will affect the network stability and security
closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage then 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

not sure if it applies to this coin but a lot of POS coins require you to encrypt your wallet then unlock it for minting or it wont stake (but coin age will still be applied)

need dev to clarify on this one please if you don't mind (of course you don't mind I noticed nothing is too much trouble for you guys) pitty these devs didn't create this coin sooner. we got ourselves a good bunch of devs here

Correct as stated in one of our first posts concerning PoS. Encrypt wallet first, this will lock, then go to settings, unlock wallet, ensure unlock for staking is ticked and unlock with password.

Staking is now enabled.

The second you transfer Sterlingcoin OUT of the wallet stake stops. You then have to unlock once more.

If you RECEIVE Sterlingcoin staking will not stop.

thanks for a prompt response devs

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Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:52:52 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:43:48 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:23:26 PM

So in case of SLG

PoW Period: 6 Months
PoW Ends: Block 131,400
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

If I understand -until POW period is over ( in this case 6 month) it is not relevant is my wallet open or not until I have coins on it. If I now close my wallet and open it after 30 days, I got something for stake.
But after POW period is over, if my wallet is open then it give some "power" to network.

yes that is correct

pow or pos dosent matter about open close

even when pure pos it dosent matter about open close but in pure pos it will affect the network stability and security
closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage then 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

not sure if it applies to this coin but a lot of POS coins require you to encrypt your wallet then unlock it for minting or it wont stake (but coin age will still be applied)

need dev to clarify on this one please if you don't mind (of course you don't mind I noticed nothing is too much trouble for you guys) pitty these devs didn't create this coin sooner. we got ourselves a good bunch of devs here

Correct as stated in one of our first posts concerning PoS. Encrypt wallet first, this will lock, then go to settings, unlock wallet, ensure unlock for staking is ticked and unlock with password.

Staking is now enabled.

The second you transfer Sterlingcoin OUT of the wallet stake stops. You then have to unlock once more.

If you RECEIVE Sterlingcoin staking will not stop.

frant100

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Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:50:07 PM

Ok first part is clear to me, but to honest I dont understand

closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage the 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

My coins in wallet are "mining" and make new coins for me. But why staked blocks will be divided by 2 is unclear to me Huh

the reason for it is to keep the network running smooth

when POW is over the network needs to replace the new POW block created every 2 minutes with new stake blocks created every 2 minutes but there wont be enough users with open wallets to do this so the network will collapse

the way around that is for the wallet to divide each staked block by 2 which will create twice as many blocks then when everyone stakes again we get 4x then 8x then 16 times and then there is enough people staking many blocks to allow transactions to take place every 2 minutes and every block counts as a confirmation in a transaction

I think we don't have coin control yet (I may be wrong I cant be bothered looking) but when the dev sees the coin can support itself in pure POS mode then they will give us coin control so we can regroup our small blocks back into big ones

frant100

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Activity: 349

Merit: 250

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:43:48 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:23:26 PM

So in case of SLG

PoW Period: 6 Months
PoW Ends: Block 131,400
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

If I understand -until POW period is over ( in this case 6 month) it is not relevant is my wallet open or not until I have coins on it. If I now close my wallet and open it after 30 days, I got something for stake.
But after POW period is over, if my wallet is open then it give some "power" to network.

yes that is correct

pow or pos dosent matter about open close

even when pure pos it dosent matter about open close but in pure pos it will affect the network stability and security
closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage then 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

not sure if it applies to this coin but a lot of POS coins require you to encrypt your wallet then unlock it for minting or it wont stake (but coin age will still be applied)

need dev to clarify on this one please if you don't mind (of course you don't mind I noticed nothing is too much trouble for you guys) pitty these devs didn't create this coin sooner. we got ourselves a good bunch of devs here

pepi

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Activity: 414

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Ok first part is clear to me, but to honest I dont understand

closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage the 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

My coins in wallet are "mining" and make new coins for me. But why staked blocks will be divided by 2 is unclear to me Huh

frant100

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Activity: 349

Merit: 250

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:23:26 PM

So in case of SLG

PoW Period: 6 Months
PoW Ends: Block 131,400
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

If I understand -until POW period is over ( in this case 6 month) it is not relevant is my wallet open or not until I have coins on it. If I now close my wallet and open it after 30 days, I got something for stake.
But after POW period is over, if my wallet is open then it give some "power" to network.

yes that is correct

pow or pos dosent matter about open close

even when pure pos it dosent matter about open close but in pure pos it will affect the network stability and security
closed wallet wont affect stake profit over time but will affect network and that's why staking devides your staked block by 2 to make 2 blocks required for the next stage the 4 then 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 etc

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Quote from: Brito on September 27, 2014, 05:14:09 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:05:59 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 04:49:33 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: Sterlingcoin on September 27, 2014, 04:32:17 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 04:22:29 PM

And about open wallet and closed wallet?
Must be open all time or not?

In order to earn stake your Sterlingcoin wallet must be open and unlocked for staking only.

so ...

...closing it wont do any harm. the stake age will build up but i.... IS NOT TRUE.
Thanks once more!
Staking continued

it is true m8 I suggest you do some googleing on POS if its closed the stake age does build up as it says in OP
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

you need to read up on how pos works m8 it will explain a lot clearer

if you have 100 coins mature in your wallet and your wallet is open for 365 days you will get 5.5SLG interest
if you have 100 coins mature in your wallet and your wallet is closed for 364 days then you open it on the 365th day and it stakes that day you will receive 5.5SLG interest

so yes it builds up

problem with this is if everybody closes their wallet in pure POS stage there is no new blocks being created so the coin collapses because the creation of blocks is non existant so no one can send coins

were in POW/POS stage at the moment so staking is not important to the network as long as we have miners
but when POW stage ends we will be relying on people leaving their wallets open to secure and support the network

hope this helps you understand

Good explanation. So how much POS will be earned after POW ends at 6.3 million coins. Only 346500 coins in one year, unless there is compound interest on stake you already earn?

that is an unanserable question
the coins have to be in a users wallet to gain coin age
most exchanges modify the wallet in which they store our coins so that they don't stake (so they claim) so if your coins are on an exchange they don't count as staking coins

this makes predicting how many coins to be staked by end of POW impossible to work out

I don't think carol vorderman could even tackle that question but I would enjoy looking down her top as she tries

oh I just had a thought of more info

100 coins stakes 5.5 coins annually and when the block matures it is added together and seen as a block of 105.5 /2 so your next stake will be 2 blocks of 52.75 which will stake seperatly and when they do they will be divided by 2 again and again and again until they are so small they rarely mint. this is where coin control comes in (not sure if our SLG wallet has coin control yet but it will have if not already )
when the transaction amounts get too low in value we can regroup these coins into bigger blocks by selecting the coins that have recently minted and sending them back to our own wallet to create a larger block which will mint a lot faster

hope this helps

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Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 05:23:26 PM

So in case of SLG

PoW Period: 6 Months
PoW Ends: Block 131,400
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

If I understand -until POW period is over ( in this case 6 month) it is not relevant is my wallet open or not until I have coins on it. If I now close my wallet and open it after 30 days, I got something for stake.
But after POW period is over, if my wallet is open then it give some "power" to network.

I believe so.

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So in case of SLG

PoW Period: 6 Months
PoW Ends: Block 131,400
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

If I understand -until POW period is over ( in this case 6 month) it is not relevant is my wallet open or not until I have coins on it. If I now close my wallet and open it after 30 days, I got something for stake.
But after POW period is over, if my wallet is open then it give some "power" to network.

Brito

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Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 05:05:59 PM

Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 04:49:33 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: Sterlingcoin on September 27, 2014, 04:32:17 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 04:22:29 PM

And about open wallet and closed wallet?
Must be open all time or not?

In order to earn stake your Sterlingcoin wallet must be open and unlocked for staking only.

so ...

...closing it wont do any harm. the stake age will build up but i.... IS NOT TRUE.
Thanks once more!
Staking continued

it is true m8 I suggest you do some googleing on POS if its closed the stake age does build up as it says in OP
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

you need to read up on how pos works m8 it will explain a lot clearer

if you have 100 coins mature in your wallet and your wallet is open for 365 days you will get 5.5SLG interest
if you have 100 coins mature in your wallet and your wallet is closed for 364 days then you open it on the 365th day and it stakes that day you will receive 5.5SLG interest

so yes it builds up

problem with this is if everybody closes their wallet in pure POS stage there is no new blocks being created so the coin collapses because the creation of blocks is non existant so no one can send coins

were in POW/POS stage at the moment so staking is not important to the network as long as we have miners
but when POW stage ends we will be relying on people leaving their wallets open to secure and support the network

hope this helps you understand

Good explanation. So how much POS will be earned after POW ends at 6.3 million coins. Only 346500 coins in one year, unless there is compound interest on stake you already earn?

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Quote from: frant100 on September 27, 2014, 04:49:33 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: Sterlingcoin on September 27, 2014, 04:32:17 PM

Quote from: pepi on September 27, 2014, 04:22:29 PM

And about open wallet and closed wallet?
Must be open all time or not?

In order to earn stake your Sterlingcoin wallet must be open and unlocked for staking only.

so ...

...closing it wont do any harm. the stake age will build up but i.... IS NOT TRUE.
Thanks once more!
Staking continued

it is true m8 I suggest you do some googleing on POS if its closed the stake age does build up as it says in OP
PoS Min: After Maturity
PoS Max: Unlimited
PoS Interest: 5.5% Annually

you need to read up on how pos works m8 it will explain a lot clearer

if you have 100 coins mature in your wallet and your wallet is open for 365 days you will get 5.5SLG interest
if you have 100 coins mature in your wallet and your wallet is closed for 364 days then you open it on the 365th day and it stakes that day you will receive 5.5SLG interest

so yes it builds up

problem with this is if everybody closes their wallet in pure POS stage there is no new blocks being created so the coin collapses because the creation of blocks is non existant so no one can send coins

were in POW/POS stage at the moment so staking is not important to the network as long as we have miners
but when POW stage ends we will be relying on people leaving their wallets open to secure and support the network

hope this helps you understand

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