Topic: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) - page 122. (Read 466822 times)

There's a rewards program if you refer individuals or even large solar farms for claims, you get a percentage based on their claim.

any bounty available to get some solarcoin?

Someday they may be the Satoshis of the Bitcoin world - unknown holders of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of solarcoins

I find it interesting too that those top 3 wallets remain the same - the people behind them are not buying or selling, they are just enjoying the ride, but that doesn't explain why they keep that huge amount of their coins on the exchange - it is very risky. Anyway I see that SOMEONE AGAIN PUT 80k SELL WALL at 0.00018 and I hope he will regret it soon

One thing I do notice is that there doesn't seem to be any bid support. As soon as any BTC is put on the bid it gets taken out. I guess the group who is pumping is trying to get back some of their investment.

One thing I really don't understand is why the top 3 wallets have all that coinage on the exchange. You would think they would transfer to a wallet and start staking. It'starts been there for over 3 years now.

I understand a lot better than you think. At the moment it looks like you have been paying? not so lucky trading? not my problem. im doing fine. If you really understood the market you would never even say what you are saying. How can you say of course its going to go up? you dont know that! Let me make it very clear for you so you understand:  The only reason why Solarcoin is up is because someone is constantly buying their own coins and trading to themselves. If you knew where to look you would have noticed, its been going on for ages. Either way Noone is buying my shares because i'm not selling any. But don't worry I'll let you know when we are at the top again so you can buy my coins when I decide to sell some more.

And Come on at least read what you are writing. If everyone sold into the buys and then bought back from the sells then everybode would effectively be pumping the coin at their own cost.
Why Would I have written such a long post in the first place if I wasn't here for the long run. Everybody here knows this. I am super passionate about Solarcoin but that doesnt mean that im never going to sell a few. (especially if I think i will get the opportunity to buy back cheaper)

What exacly do you mean by ther will always be poeple like me? Think about what you are saying: If noone sold how would you have gotten your Solarcoins?
So what exaclty is your plan for the perfect solarcoin? As soon as you have some shares noone is allowed to sell? sounds great where do i sign up?  

Just FYI. The hardfork appears to have been effective.  http://solarcoin.org/en/update-wallet-to-2-1-1-hard-fork-on-saturday-may-14-2016/

Next stop is likely mobile wallets in the coming weeks.  A beta is intended to start either next week or the following week. To participate join the SolarCoin or ElectriCChain slack.

this is interesting. Do you want to mention it in the solarcoin slack?  http://solarcoin.org/en/solarcoin-forum/ and the www.electricchain.org

I understand completely, which is why I stated that in this model the Networking ideal doesn't equate usage even though adoption is included in that statement. It is one thing to adopt and be successful but the usage and liquidity requirements will not be able to sustain the network. This is a paradox with all crypto though not just SLR. The competition for liquidity by merchants (well not an issue right now) and the selling of SLR by Claimers will surely overwhelm the market and drop the price. This will happen more when the coin is at a higher price too so even in the best case scenarios even if the Network Exponent could hold or does hold up, suddenly people buy Solar Panels to claim and sell SLR with no buyers since people spend their Fiat or BitCoin on Solar Panels instead of buying SLR. I hope you get this aspect since it is crucial to the success of the supposed glory of the Networking principle.

Do you see the Catch22 or Paradoxical portion of what I am talking about? I will keep trying to explain if you don't see it. Maybe I am wording it wrong?

CryptoNick, try to understand the logic of the creators. however dialectically your point of view is useful

I am not sure you understand what a grant is. Just because you put a unit of measure on something valuable and then give it away doesn't mean it wasn't freely given. SolarCoin has to give SLR for free otherwise it is a Security Act Violation. You are confused about the truth and I will set you straight so that you don't end up lying to people. There is no FUD here bud. Every suggestion I make is to better the coin.

You still haven't come up with a counter argument for what I stated about the leaky ceiling. I am pretty sure you have nothing to refute this argument with. That is why you deem it FUD since you are afraid, uncertain and doubtful. But there is always an opportunity to make it certain and fearless without a doubt. It just takes effort instead of lying to people and they even +1 your post to prove you are doing more harm than good.

We all know about how the granting works and how much work goes into that process. I can't allow you to make it seem like I belittle this process, so your perception is your own on that one, since I fully respect the time and efforts of everyone involved. I wouldn't take the time to point things out if I didn't want the coin to succeed, and further respect and value that time and effort by building on the concepts.

SinceSurly,
CryptoNick

Ghost is a wanabe whale   

Yea I was looking at it yesterday. Looks like somone added more to the ask to block the upward trend. Looks like we have a ghost 2.0. Every time there is upward movement somone put a big bid on the Ask.

You might be better posting that on the Slack channel, everyone here seems to be too busy with another topic.  If you arent a memeber let me know and Ill post it on your behalf.

Here is a task for you - a valuable effort needed as an integral part of this project - go ahead and automate the process of granting SLR to solar panel owners, then go ahead and make sure all solar panel owners in a country of your choice start receiving their SLR "for free". After having achieved that, come back here and tell us that "we are giving away free things" - and ONLY THEN I might tell you that you definitely have a mental issue. Got it?

The investments into the solar panels - of course they are not part of the SLR cost, but they are real costs which create the value of the solar panels (together with the energy produced) to the solar panel owners. The investors do know the value of 1MWh! And what we say is that we want to incentivize more of these investments - by creating a network/ecosystem of current/future participants (SLR claimants) and all other interested parties (panel manufacturers, services, solar energy consumers/traders/excahnges, scientific data users, etc.) - which has costs to achieve (not free!), plus increasing value in spreading/using it.

That's what I was saying.

Since you asked - here is my case: this is the second time I point you to non-truths used as a base of the logic of your statements laid out here. My experience with my own thought processes has taught me that whenever I end up with fear, uncertainty and doubt, the route cause has always been a wrong assumption, or any other non-truth. To clear the FUD, I make the effort to find the non-truth in my logic, and replace it with a truth. So here is my suggestion - find the non-truths in your logic, get rid of them, then let your valuable, I mean priceless (being unique!) imagination do the rest, and you share the results with us.

Cheers 

Nope. I havn't placed any trades for over a week. But its nice to see some action

The 1 MWH Panels claimers power their homes with isn't free and costs money to buy is your best attempt at making my statement untrue, wow nice try. No kidding panels cost money... So in your opinion you equate the power they pay off their investment with was spent on SLR coin somehow magically? You are putting your time and efforts in to facilitate claimers selling of SLR to BitCoin to then leave the network never to return... And you say I have a mental issue?! I think that is misguided but noble of you, but don't equate that effort to being a cost within the claimers coin making it NOT FREE. The PoW coin actually cost money and hash power initially so even that has more worth than a Claimer coin being completely free other than the time it took to claim, and then multiply that by 98 Billion.

Nice try though. I am not sure why you don't see where I stated it would be a great incentive to buy panels if the price could sustain. I was trying to make arguments for Claiming in the paragraphs above but again the market can't sustain it. If you think it can then address that and tell me how. Other than the price keeps going up more claimers make it go up and the same dribble. Make a case for it since I made mine.

Wow I seem to miss all the action being on UK time.

Was that you Solarcoiner?

Stop it. Right there. That's NOT true - we don't give away free things. So anything you say is based on this non-truth, thus has no true value (except as your opinion, of course).

The truth is, the production of solar electricity is NOT free, so 1 MWh is NOT free, since it requires a lot of investment (in fiat and/or in crypto - BTC, SLR, etc.) to cover all costs. The SLR blockchain is NOT free - it requires our efforts to create/maintain it and increase the network, it requires computer resources to secure it, plus it requires our efforts to come up with ideas increasing the value of the SLR blockchain itself - like electricchain.org - and implement them. It's a lot of work. If you consider this work and resources free - then you either don't do any of it, or you don't value your own efforts/resources, which sounds like a mental issue.