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Quote from: jwinterm on August 11, 2014, 03:00:51 PM

3% may not be that much in your eyes, but it's quite significant in mine and more than enough to be on the first ANN post

If you don't want the open source developers earn a tiny amount of the total coin reward then vote 0, this is not fixed.

But note than 0 reward, it's also 0 development, 0 effort and no team behind to continue work...

Talkcoin was made so to be a long term project.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, that's why other coins are abandoned by the devs.

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Quote from: dav1199 on August 11, 2014, 02:27:43 PM

It is very understandable all around if you take the time to read and think about how it works. And i don't read this all the time either.

3% isn't that much ... heck pool operators get 1 or 2% themselves and noone care ( yeah i know it is not on all the blocks but you get the idea ) .. And i don't think pool ops deserve a share more than the devs. I am all for supporting the devs and i rather thay have a % of the blocks than a massive IPO or premine.

Again it can be voted to be reduced down to 0% , i don't disagree it could be made clearer or easier to access to as far as the voting goes for this.
The first post should talk about it yes. That can and will be changed i am sure. Or maybe it will be changed / adapted more clearly at the same time as the block reward voting system change as well.

Either way i don't see why all the drama about this it is not like they are hiding it or trying to.

The devs haven't been ''scammy'' for as long as i have been following this coin. But fud is to be expected.

Yeah might not been clear enough about everything. I know myself, I have troubles explaining stuff clearly for people lol.

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3% may not be that much in your eyes, but it's quite significant in mine and more than enough to be on the first ANN post, and if it's not there than it is being hidden to some extent.

30% is scammy.

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It is very understandable all around if you take the time to read and think about how it works. And i don't read this all the time either.

3% isn't that much ... heck pool operators get 1 or 2% themselves and noone care ( yeah i know it is not on all the blocks but you get the idea ) .. And i don't think pool ops deserve a share more than the devs. I am all for supporting the devs and i rather thay have a % of the blocks than a massive IPO or premine.

Again it can be voted to be reduced down to 0% , i don't disagree it could be made clearer or easier to access to as far as the voting goes for this.
The first post should talk about it yes. That can and will be changed i am sure. Or maybe it will be changed / adapted more clearly at the same time as the block reward voting system change as well.

Either way i don't see why all the drama about this it is not like they are hiding it or trying to.

The devs haven't been ''scammy'' for as long as i have been following this coin. But fud is to be expected.

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Quote from: dav1199 on August 11, 2014, 01:46:45 PM

My god ...

Any of you guys read at all ?

The devs aren't getting 30% of the blocks, it was back when the voting system for this reward allowed for it to happen. Now it can't be more than 3%.
And of course the devs have the security keys to the voting system and other crap .. how do you think they could change it otherway Roll Eyes

Same with the guys spamming every hour to remove the voting system , it have been said like ..50 times it would be changed, i read the thread once in a while and i still know this..

While the first post could be changed the devs have also always been straightforward when asked about details like those.

I don't read it obsessively, but I check the thread when it pops up on my watchlist, and I didn't realize that. I'm not hugely involved, but it's clearly not made clear, and so if they were getting 30% or greater, that is scammy, and even 3% they should be very up front about, i.e. put it on the first post of the thread in big letters or something. I don't like the boolberry guy taking 1% off the top (edit: actually it's an optional 1% donation of each block that is optional, but on by default), but at least he's upfront about it. Maybe you need to be able to read chinese to get the message or something.

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My god ...

Any of you guys read at all ?

The devs aren't getting 30% of the blocks, it was back when the voting system for this reward allowed for it to happen. Now it can't be more than 3%.
And of course the devs have the security keys to the voting system and other crap .. how do you think they could change it otherway Roll Eyes

Same with the guys spamming every hour to remove the voting system , it have been said like ..50 times it would be changed, i read the thread once in a while and i still know this..

While the first post could be changed the devs have also always been straightforward when asked about details like those.

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Quote from: Hodor_keeper_of_the_light on August 11, 2014, 11:17:25 AM

Quote from: zxbball on August 11, 2014, 11:07:52 AM

voting system is indeed a bullshit! it will be cancel! dev cheat us two mouth! Cry

retarded kiddo

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with zxbball. There is nothing on the ANN page about the devs getting all of the fees that go towards voting. In fact, if you read through it, it kind of implies that the fees from voting will be destroyed, because slightly above the section on voting it talks about how fees from chatting get destroyed by sending to genesis block, and there is nothing specific said about voting fees, so one would assume that they are destroyed as well. It's certainly misleading, and if they're receiving 30% of the block rewards, then it seems pretty fucking scammy.

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dev plays god
dev gets greedy
truth is scary

wooo, how to save the day !

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Remove voting system, make block reward 5 TAC per block and never change back, this inflation killing the coin already stated here, 1.5-3M new coins every month is too much atm, current buy support cant buy all of it so the price keeps falling fast.We have got already 8M coins its more than enough.

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Quote from: zxbball on August 11, 2014, 11:07:52 AM

voting system is indeed a bullshit! it will be cancel! dev cheat us two mouth! Cry

retarded kiddo

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voting system is indeed a bullshit! it will be cancel! dev cheat us two mouth! Cry

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Quote from: catchcoin on August 11, 2014, 10:21:47 AM

@TalkCoin,will you plz remove the voting system?

Yes, it's planned, there will be a better alternative.

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@TalkCoin,will you plz remove the voting system?

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Quote from: nicemycoin on August 11, 2014, 09:59:44 AM

dev ,you should remove the voting system ASAP if you want a good future of TAC.
The Voting system will kill the Coin indeed.
you can get the 3- 5% of the Block rewards.but you should never get 30% or more of it.
it's so crazy. Roll Eyes

I agree, that's why this was changed, I didn't want it becomes a new devcoin where miners only get 10%...

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Quote from: duboisi on August 11, 2014, 09:36:00 AM

I miss that when I started mining TAC

because

"Please use the new thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anntac-talkcoin-619210"

U expect new TAC supporters to continue reading after the above sentence?

The community that read both sides of arguments will tell you what they think through the value of TAC.

If you read messages in the old thread, nobody cares about this or maybe they avoid reading detailed description but it's not my fault. Andy (Talkteam) made this thread to help with communication, it's not my thread, that's why I asked him to incdlude a link to my original thread.

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dev ,you should remove the voting system ASAP if you want a good future of TAC.
The Voting system will kill the Coin indeed.
you can get the 3- 5% of the Block rewards.but you should never get 30% or more of it.
it's so crazy. Roll Eyes

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I propose to integrate another vote button in the wallet, that way everything will be clear, and add this info to the OP. And move on...

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Veni. Vidi. Vici.

Hence why I am proposing this information be included in the current OP. But yes, I understand your position.

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I miss that when I started mining TAC

because

"Please use the new thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anntac-talkcoin-619210"

U expect new TAC supporters to continue reading after the above sentence?

The community that read both sides of arguments will tell you what they think through the value of TAC.

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Veni. Vidi. Vici.

Just wanted to chime in here. On a personal level, I had thought this was common knowledge and figured everybody had understood how the system worked. I think it is well designed via the implemented checks and balances.

HOWEVER, I can sympathize slightly with those who are confused as the current OP does not directly include that information. It is contained within the original dev thread and the whitepaper. This still does not warrant a barrage of unjustified claims backed by nothing but pure speculation and rage fueled by misunderstanding.

Regardless, now that things have been cleared up, I believe the discussed information should be placed within the OP so as to avoid any future complications.

EDIT: Here is the original DEV thread for those wondering: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anntac-talkcoin-official-thread-573998

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Namely, users can vote the amount of coins to be given to developers in each block that they found. This policy allows better communication between community and project development team. If you want to give 1%, 2% or 3% you choose! The default value is 1%. Note: you also can reduce donation to zero!

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