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legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
June 28, 2014, 08:41:45 PM
TAC Chat is still 1 TAC?

You guys finally understand that block reward is not related with price in short term, ok ?


You're not too bright huh? Why would you want millions of TAC coins created a week with a high reward? You actually think people will keep holding the millions of coins created weekly or would they dump some lowering the price?

or would you rather have low rewards with a few TAC's being created to atleast stop some selling?

For disclaimer, I bet 1k TAC that I hold more TAC than you, ok?
Personally I of course prefer higher TAC price but we are not at this stage now. For distribution phase we need cheap TAC for a lot of people to mine and trade TAC than everyone holding TAC right now.

Ok I give up explaining my logic. Maybe it sounds wrong for you. But the price of TAC always reflects my prediction.

I know this is you... I can feel it... ThMP1xcfDGcp4upL4CGXZL7uS2MPcdoLHg

So it is you then, my friend? Wink
http://talk.cryptocoinunion.com/address.asp?address=TijQRLxXQWMXrdoRNo8bCaBE5XfcNmnWoo

Btw it is not my address  Grin and our explorer at cryptocoinunion stops working so I don't know who is the biggest whale now.
It's pretty easy to manipulate TAC price now. e.g. you put a big buy order at around 5k sat and wait for some impatient miners / holders to dump to your wall. Then set a few small sell orders at 6k range and some buyers will buy it. Instantly 20% profit and it's been happened for weeks already. If everyone holds and whales play with the market, the price can't rise, whatever the block reward is.

I wish the dev were more active so we can discuss which plan is the best for the future of TAC.


Yeah it's me... You said once "I might sell my DarkCoins and be the biggest TAC holder"... A day or so later that wallet appeared... So I thought you were throwing down the gauntlet...

I'm never one to shy away from a challenge, I consolidated my TAC wallets and pulled my coins off the exchanges  Grin

I put 100-150k worth of TAC on both Polo and Bittrex, at regular intervals, all the way up to 125k sat, to stop whales from pumping the coin too cheaply... But the pumps never came and I thought you were challenging me to a wallet duel :-)

Between the two of us I'm sure we've got enough TAC and BTC to combat any market manipulation that will be damaging for the coin.  PM me if you wanna play with the whales...

The problem is playing that game is doing nothing but discouraging miners. You guys already have yours, so your fine seeing less than .015 BTC/100mhs....sure its great thinking "long term" but people at least need to make enough and a little more just to cover costs of running...right now that is not even close. It cost me 300 a month extra to run the GPUs, at the current prices I would be mining at a loss, which I am able to eat for short term. Most can not wait months on end for something that "might" happen.

I understand all the wanting of lower block rewards too... on the other hand, the price has done nothing to reflect the lower rewards.

Yes, I am going across the current here, but if you step back and take a look back in, you could see how and why a new miner would pass this coin up. Right now its only the bag holders that are sitting pretty... we need more than just a lower block reward with "promises" of great things later or this coin will die a very slow death.
I agree 100%, lowering the reward doesn't make the coin more valuable, it just make the coin unprofitable, and it is bit taking traders for more stupid than they are. They know the vote can be changed, why would they  buy higher just because some people change the vote (knowing that there is even in the bag holders lots of weak hand... and impatient holders, lowering the reward is even a sign of impatience, it means "I want to sell now (but I will try some funny manipulation of the market before  Grin... except everybody saw you  Grin)".

The coin needs to be widely used and have a higher demand before the voting can have an action on market price.
Trying to go too fast, will just hurt yourself (if it is unprofitable for me, it is certainly unprofitable for you... or worst you are just sitting on your big pile of tac mining other coins (basically you are not helping securing the network, and worst you are making a vote which discourage other from doing so... ) so technically low reward vote at the moment, is a vote against the coin itself.

It is pitty that some don't understand that.
I mean you can make up at home your own pile of money with your printer, but unless others use it, it has no value. so if you don't want to distribute it and just sell it as real money... it won't work for obvious reason  Grin and it won't acquire magically any value  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
June 28, 2014, 07:53:28 PM

The problem is playing that game is doing nothing but discouraging miners. You guys already have yours, so your fine seeing less than .015 BTC/100mhs....sure its great thinking "long term" but people at least need to make enough and a little more just to cover costs of running...right now that is not even close. It cost me 300 a month extra to run the GPUs, at the current prices I would be mining at a loss, which I am able to eat for short term. Most can not wait months on end for something that "might" happen.

I understand all the wanting of lower block rewards too... on the other hand, the price has done nothing to reflect the lower rewards.

Yes, I am going across the current here, but if you step back and take a look back in, you could see how and why a new miner would pass this coin up. Right now its only the bag holders that are sitting pretty... we need more than just a lower block reward with "promises" of great things later or this coin will die a very slow death.


I understand holding onto a coin for 6-12 months is not a luxury everyone can afford.  I hoped by taking a good chunk of the coins out of circulation would help keep the price healthy as well as putting resistance up on the sell side may discourage the whales from pumping and dumping.

I'm open to any further suggestions...

I've only had 6-9 months of experience as a miner, most coins that have been profitable to instamine haven't shown any solid long term growth prospects...

member
Activity: 216
Merit: 13
June 28, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
Sending 360Mhash to mine this coin, seems it has some long-term appeal and future.
I wonder though why no other NIST5 coins are coming out... First X15 came out and already there are several clones with X17 on the way... With NIST5 it seems others didn't pick it up yet
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
June 28, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
TAC Chat is still 1 TAC?

You guys finally understand that block reward is not related with price in short term, ok ?


You're not too bright huh? Why would you want millions of TAC coins created a week with a high reward? You actually think people will keep holding the millions of coins created weekly or would they dump some lowering the price?

or would you rather have low rewards with a few TAC's being created to atleast stop some selling?

For disclaimer, I bet 1k TAC that I hold more TAC than you, ok?
Personally I of course prefer higher TAC price but we are not at this stage now. For distribution phase we need cheap TAC for a lot of people to mine and trade TAC than everyone holding TAC right now.

Ok I give up explaining my logic. Maybe it sounds wrong for you. But the price of TAC always reflects my prediction.

I know this is you... I can feel it... ThMP1xcfDGcp4upL4CGXZL7uS2MPcdoLHg

So it is you then, my friend? Wink
http://talk.cryptocoinunion.com/address.asp?address=TijQRLxXQWMXrdoRNo8bCaBE5XfcNmnWoo

Btw it is not my address  Grin and our explorer at cryptocoinunion stops working so I don't know who is the biggest whale now.
It's pretty easy to manipulate TAC price now. e.g. you put a big buy order at around 5k sat and wait for some impatient miners / holders to dump to your wall. Then set a few small sell orders at 6k range and some buyers will buy it. Instantly 20% profit and it's been happened for weeks already. If everyone holds and whales play with the market, the price can't rise, whatever the block reward is.

I wish the dev were more active so we can discuss which plan is the best for the future of TAC.


Yeah it's me... You said once "I might sell my DarkCoins and be the biggest TAC holder"... A day or so later that wallet appeared... So I thought you were throwing down the gauntlet...

I'm never one to shy away from a challenge, I consolidated my TAC wallets and pulled my coins off the exchanges  Grin

I put 100-150k worth of TAC on both Polo and Bittrex, at regular intervals, all the way up to 125k sat, to stop whales from pumping the coin too cheaply... But the pumps never came and I thought you were challenging me to a wallet duel :-)

Between the two of us I'm sure we've got enough TAC and BTC to combat any market manipulation that will be damaging for the coin.  PM me if you wanna play with the whales...

The problem is playing that game is doing nothing but discouraging miners. You guys already have yours, so your fine seeing less than .015 BTC/100mhs....sure its great thinking "long term" but people at least need to make enough and a little more just to cover costs of running...right now that is not even close. It cost me 300 a month extra to run the GPUs, at the current prices I would be mining at a loss, which I am able to eat for short term. Most can not wait months on end for something that "might" happen.

I understand all the wanting of lower block rewards too... on the other hand, the price has done nothing to reflect the lower rewards.

Yes, I am going across the current here, but if you step back and take a look back in, you could see how and why a new miner would pass this coin up. Right now its only the bag holders that are sitting pretty... we need more than just a lower block reward with "promises" of great things later or this coin will die a very slow death.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
June 28, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
TAC Chat is still 1 TAC?

You guys finally understand that block reward is not related with price in short term, ok ?


You're not too bright huh? Why would you want millions of TAC coins created a week with a high reward? You actually think people will keep holding the millions of coins created weekly or would they dump some lowering the price?

or would you rather have low rewards with a few TAC's being created to atleast stop some selling?

For disclaimer, I bet 1k TAC that I hold more TAC than you, ok?
Personally I of course prefer higher TAC price but we are not at this stage now. For distribution phase we need cheap TAC for a lot of people to mine and trade TAC than everyone holding TAC right now.

Ok I give up explaining my logic. Maybe it sounds wrong for you. But the price of TAC always reflects my prediction.

I know this is you... I can feel it... ThMP1xcfDGcp4upL4CGXZL7uS2MPcdoLHg

So it is you then, my friend? Wink
http://talk.cryptocoinunion.com/address.asp?address=TijQRLxXQWMXrdoRNo8bCaBE5XfcNmnWoo

Btw it is not my address  Grin and our explorer at cryptocoinunion stops working so I don't know who is the biggest whale now.
It's pretty easy to manipulate TAC price now. e.g. you put a big buy order at around 5k sat and wait for some impatient miners / holders to dump to your wall. Then set a few small sell orders at 6k range and some buyers will buy it. Instantly 20% profit and it's been happened for weeks already. If everyone holds and whales play with the market, the price can't rise, whatever the block reward is.

I wish the dev were more active so we can discuss which plan is the best for the future of TAC.


Yeah it's me... You said once "I might sell my DarkCoins and be the biggest TAC holder"... A day or so later that wallet appeared... So I thought you were throwing down the gauntlet...

I'm never one to shy away from a challenge, I consolidated my TAC wallets and pulled my coins off the exchanges  Grin

I put 100-150k worth of TAC on both Polo and Bittrex, at regular intervals, all the way up to 125k sat, to stop whales from pumping the coin too cheaply... But the pumps never came and I thought you were challenging me to a wallet duel :-)

Between the two of us I'm sure we've got enough TAC and BTC to combat any market manipulation that will be damaging for the coin.  PM me if you wanna play with the whales...
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
June 28, 2014, 02:32:55 PM
To be honest this community shocks me. All the noobs panic around like little girls because the price isn't moving atm? This coin is probably the one of the safest bets atm. Sit back, breath and clam down. This coin will be doing great!
On the other hand, keep freaking out and cover my buy orders.


well said

now time to buy more and more and peoples how have sold it wil cry now Smiley
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
June 28, 2014, 12:14:44 PM
To be honest this community shocks me. All the noobs panic around like little girls because the price isn't moving atm? This coin is probably the one of the safest bets atm. Sit back, breath and clam down. This coin will be doing great!
On the other hand, keep freaking out and cover my buy orders.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
The Dev team needs to also see what the market desire. The community to build this coin is the altcoin community quite frank. At least for it to start... There needs to be marketing to explain and 'show the way' and a good reason to use TAC. I think its naaive to say that it'll just stick.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Ok TAC.supernova.cc down?


But on a serious level we need this on apple and android devices. mobile platforms.
member
Activity: 114
Merit: 10
Talkcoin Dev
June 28, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
And why the price doesn't grow? The award after all is lowered. Chinese dump trucks left. In what reason? Probably the reason in that, that isn't present real development. Investors don't decide to buy. Look at these enormous volumes on bittrex. About what it speaks? The coin is necessary to nobody even at such price. It doesn't disturb you? It seems to me it is necessary to be engaged in search of the reason of such state of affairs. Can lower still an award and the price will grow up for 0.1%? It is running on the spot.

All other alts, even with innovation as a core value, have the same problem, their prices are falling rapidly, it's not specific to Talkcoin.
The most imporrtant is not the price on exchanges but rather if people use it to talk because it's the goal. It must last and have meaning not to be pumped and dumped.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
June 28, 2014, 10:25:51 AM



TAC.HASHLINK.EU
Spread some hash. Help us find blocks! Wink

Wallet Updated to 1.3 !

- 1% Fee on all pools
- PROP Payout system
- Dedicated Servers
- Multicoin Pool
- High performance NODE.js backend
- User friendly MPOS interface
- STRATUM
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- Skilled admins
- Forum and IRC Support
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
The logo has to express power and aspiration to progress, clearness, severity and moderate use of color scale is required.

a purple vacuum cleaner would be a nice logo...  Grin

By the way the old logo in my opinion was more responsible. The new logo tells nothing. Purple letter T. What is it? What does it mean? What behind it stands? The essence isn't read. Only the narrow circle of the devoted understands it. Here associative communications don't work. The detached onlooker can think anything. It is necessary that the logo told about essence which stands behind it. Through a logo Talkcoin structure has to be read. What mems (association) it is necessary to see in a logo: 1) cryptocurrency, 2) messenger, 3) private communication, 4) decentralization, 5) independence, etc.
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 08:14:26 AM
TAC Chat is still 1 TAC?

You guys finally understand that block reward is not related with price in short term, ok ?


You're not too bright huh? Why would you want millions of TAC coins created a week with a high reward? You actually think people will keep holding the millions of coins created weekly or would they dump some lowering the price?

or would you rather have low rewards with a few TAC's being created to atleast stop some selling?

For disclaimer, I bet 1k TAC that I hold more TAC than you, ok?
Personally I of course prefer higher TAC price but we are not at this stage now. For distribution phase we need cheap TAC for a lot of people to mine and trade TAC than everyone holding TAC right now.

Ok I give up explaining my logic. Maybe it sounds wrong for you. But the price of TAC always reflects my prediction.

I know this is you... I can feel it... ThMP1xcfDGcp4upL4CGXZL7uS2MPcdoLHg

So it is you then, my friend? Wink
http://talk.cryptocoinunion.com/address.asp?address=TijQRLxXQWMXrdoRNo8bCaBE5XfcNmnWoo

Btw it is not my address  Grin and our explorer at cryptocoinunion stops working so I don't know who is the biggest whale now.
It's pretty easy to manipulate TAC price now. e.g. you put a big buy order at around 5k sat and wait for some impatient miners / holders to dump to your wall. Then set a few small sell orders at 6k range and some buyers will buy it. Instantly 20% profit and it's been happened for weeks already. If everyone holds and whales play with the market, the price can't rise, whatever the block reward is.

I wish the dev were more active so we can discuss which plan is the best for the future of TAC.


You are right. Now it is a high time to talk about it. It is necessary to wake up and get rid of sweet illusions.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
June 28, 2014, 08:03:32 AM
The logo has to express power and aspiration to progress, clearness, severity and moderate use of color scale is required.

a purple vacuum cleaner would be a nice logo...  Grin
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
June 28, 2014, 07:57:37 AM
TAC Chat is still 1 TAC?

You guys finally understand that block reward is not related with price in short term, ok ?


You're not too bright huh? Why would you want millions of TAC coins created a week with a high reward? You actually think people will keep holding the millions of coins created weekly or would they dump some lowering the price?

or would you rather have low rewards with a few TAC's being created to atleast stop some selling?

For disclaimer, I bet 1k TAC that I hold more TAC than you, ok?
Personally I of course prefer higher TAC price but we are not at this stage now. For distribution phase we need cheap TAC for a lot of people to mine and trade TAC than everyone holding TAC right now.

Ok I give up explaining my logic. Maybe it sounds wrong for you. But the price of TAC always reflects my prediction.

I know this is you... I can feel it... ThMP1xcfDGcp4upL4CGXZL7uS2MPcdoLHg

So it is you then, my friend? Wink
http://talk.cryptocoinunion.com/address.asp?address=TijQRLxXQWMXrdoRNo8bCaBE5XfcNmnWoo

Btw it is not my address  Grin and our explorer at cryptocoinunion stops working so I don't know who is the biggest whale now.
It's pretty easy to manipulate TAC price now. e.g. you put a big buy order at around 5k sat and wait for some impatient miners / holders to dump to your wall. Then set a few small sell orders at 6k range and some buyers will buy it. Instantly 20% profit and it's been happened for weeks already. If everyone holds and whales play with the market, the price can't rise, whatever the block reward is.

I wish the dev were more active so we can discuss which plan is the best for the future of TAC.
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 07:55:06 AM
You know that it isn't pleasant to me in this an infinite series of coins? All of them have a dead site. It concerns also Talkcoin. The site has to live! Publish data. Provide more information on a coin. Tell about its uniqueness. Stratify submission of information. Draw a tasty logo. In this logo there is a lot of slobbery glamour. The logo has to express power and aspiration to progress, clearness, severity and moderate use of color scale is required.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
June 28, 2014, 07:30:12 AM
And why the price doesn't grow? The award after all is lowered. Chinese dump trucks left. In what reason? Probably the reason in that, that isn't present real development. Investors don't decide to buy. Look at these enormous volumes on bittrex. About what it speaks? The coin is necessary to nobody even at such price. It doesn't disturb you? It seems to me it is necessary to be engaged in search of the reason of such state of affairs. Can lower still an award and the price will grow up for 0.1%? It is running on the spot.

WTF lol

This is one of the reasons I love TAC.  The noobs are angry because they heard TAC had innovation but the price didn't rise so they dump it immediately.  But the miners are pushing TAC hard and strong hands buying around 5-6k in 20k TAC chunks.   I say no more...



I am interested in Talkcoin since May and didn't sell any coin. I see stagnation and I speak about it as I am interested in growth. To me bothered to be silent.

Nevertheless it doesn't add confidence as a whole.

Look at the buys vs sells on Bittrex:



The volume is just weak hands panic selling over the top of the order books at any price, which has been the story the last week.  But the other story is that experienced people are either holding or buying cheap and mining hard whatever the rewards as they expect the price to rise later.  So those are the 2 sides to this, because its typical a coin like TAC doesn't get recognised until its fully developed then people get the innovation, same as DRK.

Don't worry about the short term price, lower price is better for long term investors right now, if you don't see the fundamentals in play here then don't take the risk.

Nevertheless it doesn't add confidence as a whole.

Clever miners always mine what they think will be profitable in 6-12 months... Instamining is great when BTC price is $1000 and you could mine your grandmothers slippers to make money...

If you're a long term holder you always invest in the developers/project management of the coin... Forget technical buzzwords, they are for all the Anon coin scammers...
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 07:29:06 AM
I don't like policy Bittrex and many other exchanges to limit tool history. Maybe it is necessary to introduce the schedule in a wallet or to publish on a site Talkcoin? The full history with volumes would be very opportunely for the interested coin progress.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
June 28, 2014, 07:26:25 AM
TAC Chat is still 1 TAC?

You guys finally understand that block reward is not related with price in short term, ok ?


You're not too bright huh? Why would you want millions of TAC coins created a week with a high reward? You actually think people will keep holding the millions of coins created weekly or would they dump some lowering the price?

or would you rather have low rewards with a few TAC's being created to atleast stop some selling?

For disclaimer, I bet 1k TAC that I hold more TAC than you, ok?
Personally I of course prefer higher TAC price but we are not at this stage now. For distribution phase we need cheap TAC for a lot of people to mine and trade TAC than everyone holding TAC right now.

Ok I give up explaining my logic. Maybe it sounds wrong for you. But the price of TAC always reflects my prediction.

I know this is you... I can feel it... ThMP1xcfDGcp4upL4CGXZL7uS2MPcdoLHg
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
June 28, 2014, 07:25:59 AM
And why the price doesn't grow? The award after all is lowered. Chinese dump trucks left. In what reason? Probably the reason in that, that isn't present real development. Investors don't decide to buy. Look at these enormous volumes on bittrex. About what it speaks? The coin is necessary to nobody even at such price. It doesn't disturb you? It seems to me it is necessary to be engaged in search of the reason of such state of affairs. Can lower still an award and the price will grow up for 0.1%? It is running on the spot.

WTF lol

This is one of the reasons I love TAC.  The noobs are angry because they heard TAC had innovation but the price didn't rise so they dump it immediately.  But the miners are pushing TAC hard and strong hands buying around 5-6k in 20k TAC chunks.   I say no more...



I am interested in Talkcoin since May and didn't sell any coin. I see stagnation and I speak about it as I am interested in growth. To me bothered to be silent.

Nevertheless it doesn't add confidence as a whole.

Look at the buys vs sells on Bittrex:



The volume is just weak hands panic selling over the top of the order books at any price, which has been the story the last week.  But the other story is that experienced people are either holding or buying cheap and mining hard whatever the rewards as they expect the price to rise later.  So those are the 2 sides to this, because its typical a coin like TAC doesn't get recognised until its fully developed then people get the innovation, same as DRK.

Don't worry about the short term price, lower price is better for long term investors right now, if you don't see the fundamentals in play here then don't take the risk.

Nevertheless it doesn't add confidence as a whole.
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