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Topic: [ANN][UFR][ICO] Upfiring | Incentivized P2P File-Sharing - page 20. (Read 38766 times)

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One question I have, is there any way that files that aren't often seeded will have a higher reward for seeding? Nothing more frustrating than trying to download something obscure on utorrent and finding there are no seeds.

The rewards will be based on file size. We may implement something like this down the line, however.

When it comes to storage, will your architecture function similarly to that of Storj?

Not exactly. Storj splits up files and stores them on a bunch of different hosts, allowing hosts to earn coins for renting out their storage space. With Upfiring, the files will be stored on the seeders devices, so your files aren't being distributed to the a bunch of different peers in the network - only downloaders.

But if the files are stored on the seeders devices, what happens if the seeders devices crash? Are the files still accessible? Storj is strong because it has a high tolerance of node failures as files a stored in a decentralized way with some overlap. With your system, are files stored only on a single seeder's device?

Have you used P2P before? It's on as many devices as people who have downloaded it. So an unhealthy torrent doesn't have many seeders, and it is possible to lose stuff.

But if it's in high enough demand, it will quickly gain seeders.

Especially on this system, which literally pays you money to seed high demand torrents.

Good point. It kinda takes advantage of the whole free market capitalism system.
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I'm having trouble transferring tokens too.
sr. member
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When will smart contract be unlocked?

I'm also wondering.
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Tokens still not transferable ?

gas being wasted here
Yeah Devs, I've the same question. now that the Ico is over isn't the token open to transfer? I tried and it failed.
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Tokens still not transferable ?

gas being wasted here
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Limewire was a bad example I admit.
https://i.imgur.com/RpQtYnl.png
It honestly wasn't. In terms of how they presented their technology in the whitepaper, it's a perfectly valid comparison.
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Will the Upfiring protocol be available in "standalone form" or solely as an implementation in a proprietary software client?

As far as I can tell, Upfiring is far more comparable to Gnutella than it is BitTorrent. Is there any more detailed information about the technology than what is offered in the whitepaper? I'm highly wishful in regards to the future of incentivized P2P file-sharing but I have my doubts about what would essentially be an incentivized Limewire.

My feelings exactly. It has my full attention, but I'm also hesitant.

It's not going to be an incentivized Limewire. You won't be able to directly search every single person's computer on the network for files in the same way, as this is just asking for trouble.

You'll be able to share directly with people you know and within communities, in a similar manner to the way that torrents are currently shared. 

Limewire was a bad example I admit.
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t.me/CryptoPortfel > JOIN
can i transfer my tokens??
Yur
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When will smart contract be unlocked?
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One question I have, is there any way that files that aren't often seeded will have a higher reward for seeding? Nothing more frustrating than trying to download something obscure on utorrent and finding there are no seeds.

The rewards will be based on file size. We may implement something like this down the line, however.

When it comes to storage, will your architecture function similarly to that of Storj?

Not exactly. Storj splits up files and stores them on a bunch of different hosts, allowing hosts to earn coins for renting out their storage space. With Upfiring, the files will be stored on the seeders devices, so your files aren't being distributed to the a bunch of different peers in the network - only downloaders.

But if the files are stored on the seeders devices, what happens if the seeders devices crash? Are the files still accessible? Storj is strong because it has a high tolerance of node failures as files a stored in a decentralized way with some overlap. With your system, are files stored only on a single seeder's device?

Have you used P2P before? It's on as many devices as people who have downloaded it. So an unhealthy torrent doesn't have many seeders, and it is possible to lose stuff.

But if it's in high enough demand, it will quickly gain seeders.

Especially on this system, which literally pays you money to seed high demand torrents.
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 100
One question I have, is there any way that files that aren't often seeded will have a higher reward for seeding? Nothing more frustrating than trying to download something obscure on utorrent and finding there are no seeds.

The rewards will be based on file size. We may implement something like this down the line, however.

When it comes to storage, will your architecture function similarly to that of Storj?

Not exactly. Storj splits up files and stores them on a bunch of different hosts, allowing hosts to earn coins for renting out their storage space. With Upfiring, the files will be stored on the seeders devices, so your files aren't being distributed to the a bunch of different peers in the network - only downloaders.

But if the files are stored on the seeders devices, what happens if the seeders devices crash? Are the files still accessible? Storj is strong because it has a high tolerance of node failures as files a stored in a decentralized way with some overlap. With your system, are files stored only on a single seeder's device?

Have you used P2P before? It's on as many devices as people who have downloaded it. So an unhealthy torrent doesn't have many seeders, and it is possible to lose stuff.

But if it's in high enough demand, it will quickly gain seeders.
full member
Activity: 486
Merit: 101
One question I have, is there any way that files that aren't often seeded will have a higher reward for seeding? Nothing more frustrating than trying to download something obscure on utorrent and finding there are no seeds.

The rewards will be based on file size. We may implement something like this down the line, however.

When it comes to storage, will your architecture function similarly to that of Storj?

Not exactly. Storj splits up files and stores them on a bunch of different hosts, allowing hosts to earn coins for renting out their storage space. With Upfiring, the files will be stored on the seeders devices, so your files aren't being distributed to the a bunch of different peers in the network - only downloaders.

But if the files are stored on the seeders devices, what happens if the seeders devices crash? Are the files still accessible? Storj is strong because it has a high tolerance of node failures as files a stored in a decentralized way with some overlap. With your system, are files stored only on a single seeder's device?

Have you used P2P before? It's on as many devices as people who have downloaded it. So an unhealthy torrent doesn't have many seeders, and it is possible to lose stuff.
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One question I have, is there any way that files that aren't often seeded will have a higher reward for seeding? Nothing more frustrating than trying to download something obscure on utorrent and finding there are no seeds.

The rewards will be based on file size. We may implement something like this down the line, however.

When it comes to storage, will your architecture function similarly to that of Storj?

Not exactly. Storj splits up files and stores them on a bunch of different hosts, allowing hosts to earn coins for renting out their storage space. With Upfiring, the files will be stored on the seeders devices, so your files aren't being distributed to the a bunch of different peers in the network - only downloaders.

But if the files are stored on the seeders devices, what happens if the seeders devices crash? Are the files still accessible? Storj is strong because it has a high tolerance of node failures as files a stored in a decentralized way with some overlap. With your system, are files stored only on a single seeder's device?
sr. member
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Are there any features you plan on offering that haven't been talked about here yet?

 Huh
newbie
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Was about to join the ico, but did some research and wanted to confirm this.

Team holds 400 mil tokens, right?
You have sold about 10 mil tokens, right?

With these numbers, why should I still join the ico?

This has already been answered on the subreddit:
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I've seen some concern expressed here on the fact that ~11 million tokens have been minted during the ICO, and the team members/developers would hold 190,000,000 UFR (19% of the max cap). This number was derived assuming the total supply would be 1 billion tokens (had we hit the hard cap). Considering that is not the case, the total supply of UFR actively held by the developers/team members is going to be scaled down so that team members do not collectively hold greater than 19% of the max supply.
newbie
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Was about to join the ico, but did some research and wanted to confirm this.

Team holds 400 mil tokens, right?
You have sold about 10 mil tokens, right?

With these numbers, why should I still join the ico?
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
It's not going to be an incentivized Limewire. You won't be able to directly search every single person's computer on the network for files in the same way, as this is just asking for trouble.

You'll be able to share directly with people you know and within communities, in a similar manner to the way that torrents are currently shared.  

Will all the communities you mentioned be indexed within the Upfiring client? All I'm really trying to figure out is whether Upfiring is a tool or a platform, because it's not entirely clear. I've already contributed to the ICO and I really do look forward to seeing how everything pans out. Meanwhile, I'm just trying to get a few questions answered.

EDIT: I found answers to most of my questions on the subreddit. Cheers
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Upfiring Team Member
Will the Upfiring protocol be available in "standalone form" or solely as an implementation in a proprietary software client?

As far as I can tell, Upfiring is far more comparable to Gnutella than it is BitTorrent. Is there any more detailed information about the technology than what is offered in the whitepaper? I'm highly wishful in regards to the future of incentivized P2P file-sharing but I have my doubts about what would essentially be an incentivized Limewire.

My feelings exactly. It has my full attention, but I'm also hesitant.

It's not going to be an incentivized Limewire. You won't be able to directly search every single person's computer on the network for files in the same way, as this is just asking for trouble.

You'll be able to share directly with people you know and within communities, in a similar manner to the way that torrents are currently shared. 
sr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 250
Are there any features you plan on offering that haven't been talked about here yet?
full member
Activity: 486
Merit: 101
What is the exact date of unlocking the tokens?

I believe it will be November 7th assuming all goes as planned. We have to distribute the bounty campaign tokens and then finalize the crowdsale contract.

Hopefully you can stay on track, and if not hopefully you can keep us updated. Cheesy
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