Topic: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer - page 121. (Read 247332 times)

An eventual outcome? How do you explain "Uro: Backed by Millions of Tons of Urea Fertilizer" and "A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer" ??

Here's quoting from earlier


Now let Uro == “Urea delivered in the future” == “Urea Certificates (UC)” (simplified adaptation of Uro paper wallets for farmers/people who don’t want or need to know about futures or Uro as a cryptocurrency).

UCs provide farmers confidence in the sustainability of their operations by hedging away the risk that they may not be able to afford fertilizer next season if the fertilizer prices go up too much – In the longer term – farmers will learn to buy their UCs when the price is low (they cannot do this without Uro because Urea has a short shelf life and the lack of storage space) – this behaviour will force the price higher – hence forming a free market supply/demand stabilisation of Urea prices – which in term reduces the magnitude of fluctuations in the Urea price for the entire economy – even those not adopting Uro.

Wholesalers make their margin by simply selling UCs at a price higher then they paid for Uro. This is no different to before – when they brought the Urea at a lower distributors price and sold it at a higher wholesale price.

In the case where the farmer goes on an exchange and buys Uro themselves directly on the open currency exchanges (unlikely due to various difficulties – learning curve, internet, access to computers, electronic bank account access, etc) – they will have effectively saved the above margin that would have been earned by the wholesaler. But since very few farmers will end up doing this the loss in revenue to wholesalers will be minimal.

Finally wholesalers have access to Urea at lower prices when they sign yearly supply contracts with international trading companies (very common) – and this can still be achieved with Uro just as before. Uro and Urea can be both be supplied in larger quantities below the current market price to wholesalers – and they continue making their margins for providing a valuable service – inventory, accounting and customer support.

Sooooo, i bought 1 URO....where can I trade it in for a metric tonne of fertilizer plz? kthx..me no need to buy lawn fertilizer eveer again kkkkkkkkkk

So when does the truth (or lie) of all this get settled? When is the definitive proof (or lack of proof) scheduled to come out?

Wtf are you rambling about? It's either backed or not.

+100 i think its hundreds thousands dollars of fees and weeks of delay

Guys this is an eventual outcome.  Nobody is saying 1URO will be worth 1 metric tonne of Urea in the real world any time soon.  This is the eventual aim but it will take time.  If it happened overnight it would be a scam.  There's no guarantee it will work but there are no guarantees in crypto.  Did anyone think BTC would ever be worth anything when it was used to buy a pizza for 10,000 BTC - URO is in the same position at the moment.  Anyone expecting to suddenly become rich should use their money to buy lottery tickets instead.  If you want to invest in something for the long term then look at this.

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Well, similar schemes, not with coins however, have been tried before in poorer nations where the cost of subsidised farming isn't the real issue, it's how to get the farmers to use it. There is a high level of bureaucracy involved with getting these types of subsidies, and not all of these farmers have literacy skills. Some schemes haven't been very successful because of this, faced with a mass of paperwork, these farmers wouldn't even bother trying to claim what is rightfully theirs. The last scheme I heard about was where farmers were given a pin number in order to receive their grain subsidy. This was a few years ago.

Also, as I understand it 4 companies have signed a contract binding them to accept URO as payment for urea for the next 10 years, at a rate of 1 URO per metric tonne. Apparently talks were taking place for the first order, so we won't have long to wait to see if it's legitimate or not. If it's not, then I lose a couple of BTC. No worries. If it's real, well... see my previous post. Any crypto is risky, I'm fine with it. No risk, no reward.

Where will the incentive be to produce the Urea itself? If you can create urea from a computer algo the benefit to party A has to be the same as party B.

Are any economics people in the house that realize you are creating a fiat currency in crypto. The thing crypto wanted to avoid? Your centralizing the market to a group of urea investors. Who, in the pump of this all are supposed to take a 99% loss selling it for the "ease" of uro coins, rather than the open market price, which has no problem being accepted. The margins are already in urea pricing, so that business can make profit at the current price points.

Margins on urea are not greater than 99%. So ask yourself. If you are a business selling a product with a large market, where liquidity is NOT an issue. Would you take a 99% loss to use a coin like uro? What are the benefits of URO over say bitcoin? Name? A centralized organization? I really love the idea of a commodity backed crypto. But im sorry, this one doesn't look to be it.




This is a great read about the mentality of investors who do well and others who don't. Everything revolves around your reward mechanism. Seems like a lot of bubble sounding talk goin on. How this coin will go up 100x in value to meet urea price. But simply put.. It doesn't add up.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-brains-of-great-traders-2014-7?utm_source=mobilesrepublic&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=mobilesrepublic

I do wish you all the best. A commodity backed crypto done the right way could be a exciting.

Once things are established - i think 1 uro can go higher than the urea/ usd price as using uro will save in thousands of bank fee (which of course will get you more urea) and will reduce the time delay in clearance of funds internationally and stuff. Time=money

But for all this to happen, there need to be all the infrastructure and uro eco system in place where the actual users of urea have started purchasing urea with their uro certificates for their next season urea supply.

But making this successful initially need 2-sides mass contribution, I mean at least seller have to invest its first portion (some one have to arrange 12500 URO too). If just one successful shipment is completed then price will be BTC:URO 1:1 a simple matter just imagine demand VS supply.

Guys, it's not a complicated concept.....

All it takes is one wealthy investor to buy 12,500 uro coins, use them to purchase 12,500 tons of urea and then sell that urea for a multi-million dollar profit.

What's the next thing that investor would do? Well obviously they would go rush to buy another 12,500 coins so that they could buy more urea and make another killing. But as they rush to buy coins, what happens to the price?

Then more investors become interested, and on and on....

It's not wishful thinking, it's economics 101.

If 1 order of urea is bought for 350 usd 1:1 It should justifiably move the market valuation up how much? I am not trying to be a holder of the coin, bashing people to get cheap shares. I just see a lot of bubble type mentality in this thread. Once the hype comes out, people get hurt.

Is a reason urea is $350 a metric ton and uro is 3.00 a coin. People are not trading 350 worth of value for a 3.00 coin.

I can make a gold coin, say someone gonna back it with gold, each coin would not = 1,300+ USD.

I love the idea. But people saying its undervalued cause urea is x per ton really need to rethink the argument a bit more.

Urea to create takes x amount of energy / effort. If the coin value does not even equal that, How many people will continue to sell real urea for a loss to support the idea? I dunno. The market needs to prove demand first.

Possible, but it won't happen yet, we've yet to see how these commodity backed crypto's are accepted by the markets. In the future there may be a way to peg the coin to the current market price of urea, and have this rate displayed at exchanges.

For now though, this coin is very cheap. In fact it's stupidly cheap. If the minimum order is 12,500 tonnes, and urea is $300 a tonne, then even if you had to pay $200 per URO, this would save you $1,250,000 on the whole shipment.

When people see proof of the first order, URO will be bought off the book so fast it will be a blur of numbers. 

I think the price would rise even faster if there were more coins on sale (for once).  Nobody wants to sell so the exchange prices don't change and the whales are able to do their trick where they sell a tiny amount to themselves at a stupidly low price and make the "official" price lower for longer.  If exchanges would only change their "official" price from the last sale price to a 1 hr average or something this wouldn't happen.

Hi True Asset,


I have been following URO since it was launched.

I am looking at importing UREA, I am in the import business and have spoken to my clearing agent and he is able to provide this service for me. I just need to find out, is there any way of getting a smaller shipment then 12500MT in the early days. If not, can you give me info on the volumetric weight of a 12500MT shipment, I have a connection with big farmers in South Africa and am very keen to prove your service.

Can you contact me so we can discuss this further.

I'm think it will be difficult to accumulate to 12500 URO now because of two reasons which are price (is on the raise) and available coin to buy from sell order less 10,000 URO.

If they are lot of trader going to get FULL 12500 URO, how are they going to get it right away?