Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 123. (Read 1356140 times)

Still, if you see yourself as a leader one would expect you learn from that shambles about Moolah and CoinSis, but you obviously don't. If you would, then you wouldn't label any suggestions, criticism as FUD, you would be more open minded to suggestions and you certainly wouldn't tell investors that gtfo. You must know, we did the due diligence about Moolah in here in the UK, I shared that info with the VRC devs and community. The reaction from the average 24 years old fanboy base, dev team and idiots like your buddy that ereborltc boy was that the info is FUD, the cooperation with Moolah will change the world and no one should question what the devs do. The arrogant Nosker even kicked me out from IRC because I said a few uncomplimentary comments about Moolah. Now the CEO of Moolah is wanted by the Interpol. The Moolah cooperation business plan was drafted in a PhD student lab by ignoring reality, and when your great business partner is hunted by the Interpol, then the market see how amateur the VRC team is and the 8k price reflects that amateurism.

Still, you are repeating the same mistake terms of ignorance with other users here. You have the luxury to get well thought, logical and constructive opinion from very intelligent users like Barabbas, Monsieur Lupin, Kleineapp, etc, for free, but you not only ignore them (which is a very stupid act from a leader), but you tell them that gtfo and don't FUD here. Barabbas' suggestion about the transparent theme was a great idea, his pamphlet draft was genius because it pushed a simple and very powerful message, about the corrupt Banks vs. honest digital currencies. What do you do with that idea? Of course nothing, except letting your brigade harassing him because there are a few typos in the pamphlet draft.

In the meantime, you roll out ideas like decentralized storage without proper market analysis, revenue projection, market share projection, analysis of your competitors and target audience. Do you have a business plan? Of course you don't have - your cloud storage idea is based on pure speculation. No wonder users question your idea as you have not provided the community with any sensible analysis to justify your idea. I know, you and the devs don't have to justify anything - so lets repeat the Moolah mistake on a bigger stage by enabling the store of child pornography on the block chain without generating any revenue. What a great idea to get into serious trouble without generating any revenues.


As I thought you have no experience in business apart from organizing some web site venture, thanks for confirming that. No wonder, you have no leadership skills. If you would have you would start with the basics and being worried about the image of VRC and you would control your desperate fanboy brigade, users like that idiot ereborltc who is being uncivil and harassing users here. I bet, you even thanked him on your forum for stepping up to defend you. You should understand, the image of Vericoin is not depending on Barabbas and altcoinUK, but on the VRC devs and your brigade.  The devs (most of the time ) are very professional, but you have lots of work to do to control your brigade instead of worrying what "FUDers" write here.


That's just ridiculous and pure delusion. Marketing your digital currency as more useful than Bitcoin is not only factually incorrect (see my posts about green address, and other options already enabled by the BTC blockchain), but it isn't a viable proposition, it is like selling ice to Eskimos, because in such business venture you face two issues
a) your freely available ice is same as the existing freely available ice
b) the Eskimos need to walk a bit longer to get the very same ice

AltcoinUK, I appreciate your balanced approach to giving criticism here.  Thanks.  I do appreciate constructive criticism, it's what all people need to grow and change, it's just hard to hear when it's unbalanced and overly critical.  Ultimately I am a scientist, I want as close to objectivity as possible.  What do you think is our best move at this point?  I wonder what it is you think would be a great addition to the technology.  
Also although I have over 5 years of full time C++ coding experience, I had never done an opensource github project before so I didn't understand all the github conventions when we started this coin.  So ultimately it looked like a scam coin github, lol, because I didn't fork it properly and so on.  I have since improved the github and have started adding updates to the protocol and have started a new phase of coding novel protocol updates. https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin

Yes, there is a reason. The market is disinterested and apathetic about VeriCoin. Apart from failures and disappointments the devs being delivering nothing for the market, consequently the price is low. When the VRC devs announce such irrational shambles like the decentralized cloud storage then the investors just say, oh dear, here we are again, another pathetic vericoin idea, and the investors put the money into more sensible ideas.

Don't get me wrong, the VRC devs are very nice, talented and intelligent young men, but unfortunately their inexperience in business and the arrogance of youth prevent them to understand their target audience, business in general, incorporate good ideas and valuable suggestions from intelligent and experienced users like Barabbas, Monsieur Lupin, Kleineapp, etc. As most of their professional and life experience is from a PhD student lab, they just don't have the skills to perform this business (yet) and can't deliver a thing that worth any investments. That's the reality. That's why the price is 8k. What cheerleaders, fanboys says about how great Vericoin is irrelevant, the price speaks for itself.

However, as the market disapproves basically everything that VRC delivers, the devs will be getting desperate soon (just like they were desperate not long time ago when James offered his deal and the devs being under pressure, mainly from us, and took that offer). Then, the devs will admit that the cloud storage, VeriBit, VeriSMS, VISA card and other delusional nonsenses is not valued by the market nor crypto currency users, and then they will start thinking about to deliver something that matters. I think in long term VRC will be fine, because the devs are intelligent enough to learn from their own mistake, but this unnecessary long chain of irrational ideas like the decentralized cloud storage could be certainly avoided by being more open minded and less arrogant.

 

Werd   if anyone has REAL questions regarding tech or plans go directly to the source. That specific coins forum, in this case it would be..https://www.vericoinforums.com. Some peple concentrate on the price....some of us are amazed at the work being done... I watch developers working there ass off daily, but come over to the real forums and make some friends. We are all in crypto together, ignore the FUD as I stated several times FUD has purpose, buy cheap why else would you waste your time writing pages of FUD lol think about it then come to a better place https://www.vericoinforums.com

OH man barabbas your already wreaking havoc in the BRO thread LOLOLOL i thought that coin was the next big thing! Wow u get sadder and sadder every day ... you must be so lonely ;(

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Everyone knows barabbas is a joke lol most coin communities know also just a little research will show it all just look at his previous posts in the pinkcoin thread loll same BS offering them a special deal BUT he needs........wait for it.......DONATIONS!! LOLOLOL then the community laughed at him and he quickly "removed his offer off the table" hmmm sound familiar lol now he just trolls them like he trolls vericoin lol full time job!

To me he's like vericoins pet spider monkey, he just can't stop throwing shitting everywhere... got to dodge all the shit in here to actually read any informative posts, but he sure does keep it entertaining

well that fud was just pooped on...

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Yes barb you are the most Identifiable, and I love nude pics of my chik lol stop being such a dumbass close minded prick you always are. If the coins fail then let them fail no one needs anyone to point that out lol, But you should appreciate the people trying to bring you the technology.

Cough Cough, "Anon is vapor" That is the most vague dumbest thing I ever heard you say. I thought at least you had some bits of technical knowledge but anyway, You also make no sense. try again buddy maybe one day you will say something a little more then anon is vapor, everyone is identifiable lol. Really Stupid Man. But once again people FUD has a purpose here this is why every coin has their own forums because Barabus is blacklisted on most of them. Purpose it to scare you into selling... them buying and profiting on the FUD they create. Just research Barabus and you will find the scams he has been up to and the communities he has used the same FUD tactics on to accomplish the same goals.

And now we have just entered full nutcase territory...

Oh well people, as usual, real common-sensical people, knows way better than nutcases that store nude pics of their chicks -just how extended is that particular practice?- and hence why, again, VRC is goin straght down to the point of no return...
You people, the nutcases, have not seen what has happened and continue happening to ALL anon coins, including Dark? This will BEVER work. Ever. Anon is vapor. Everyone is identifiable at point of entry (into the net).

VRC: currency, not business... most particularly not a business destined to fail.

End of story.

It is true you have no idea, happy you are honest about that. Can you be a litte more vague ROFL "into a datacenter ?" What kind of datacenter are you speaking of ? Old school AS/400 ? What is in your datacenter Sir, what are you talking about. A data center full of SAN's maybe, vSphere architecture ? This sounds like someone who has no idea what he is speaking of and just spitting out words like datacenter... Go read a book about datacenters then learn about how to implement them in the cloud then maybe you will understand why your statement for needing a datacenter makes no sense.
It does this is why it will be cheaper then you precious centralized google, all your files can be viewed by all google personnel FYI. Do you trust naked pictures of you chik on google or a more decentralized, less targetable solution with more security enable by the block chain in various methods.   
Who are they ? Once again what are you talking about ? Legal Issues mirrored blockchains ? Decentralized information through blockchain tech through cloud raid ? "They" Cannot even regulate bitcoin properly, WELCOME TO THE REVOLUTION.

Renting through third party ISP's ? When you run Kazaa or Bearshare or limewire or soulseek or Bittorrent client, etc.. you must know that running these is running a server which does violate your TOS with your ISP.  Can they prove you are running it ? and if so will they shut down half of all their accounts because of it ? NO, they increased everyone bandwidth and made it easier, no company wants to lose customers for these small issues. Bandwidth is not an issue. I hope I helped a little in your silly technical but not technical at all rant above.

NOBODY SHOULD FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE I CAN THESE DAYS DOWNLOAD MOVIES FASTER THEN I EVER COULD, GET MUSIC, ETC. Have "They" been able to stop it ? no it just gets better and better as they keep trying to stop it because people like the VRC/SuperNET Dev team keep coming up with innovations that trump yesterdays tech that "They" are still looking at as we are always 10 steps ahead. This is a developers world do not try to understand instead ask a good developer like James or Doug to help you understand what you do not. 

.....and I yield back the balance of my time.

All good points except for the one about anon.

I'm a big believer in NOT being anonymous. My association with crypto folks have lead me to amend my views.

Recent goverment  strong arming of large data communication providers brings into question the enroachment on basic freedoms.

Other than that confidential data needs to be secure from prying eyes.

It isn't just badguys who use anon. They may have been the first to capitalise but your personal financial, and Medical records are a prime example of things the every day citizen should be able to keep private,

Now that there is an absolute anon solution it should be avaiable to anyone who desires complete privacy.

All the data you're concerned about accessing  when HD's are off line are ameliorated by them being avaiable in the cloud. The solution being prepared is  "decentralised cloud storage'.

Anyone can help me?? I sent vrc to bittrex. But till now doesn't received.

How to fix this??

very nice website, are you working on mobile platform.

Short answer they cant.
The whole idea has a ton of holes in it.
Im glad because i really wouldnt want to see vrc go down this road.

Hmm this is a good question , how you ensure that the data are available 24/7 ?  Even if its mirrored on 100 disks , there is a possibilty that all are down, when I need my data.

Decentralized cloud storage?
So you want me to pay some fee to John in US, Harry in UK and Jarek in Poland (I assume redundancy) and upload my semi important document on their HDDs.
What will happen and who will reimburse me, if in one month time I will need my file and I found out that Johns HDD went down, Harrys computer is off, as he is on holiday and Jareks one is offline for some reason as well?
And that's only quick thought.

Now i understand the price drop better.

Anon sent was to shady but we can agree on this ? how does that work.
Ive been in vrc for many months and sadly im starting to agree more and more with barabas.
If he wasnt so long winded and such a patronizing douchebag from time to time he would be a great asset as the voice of the people.

There are many coins in SuperNet pick another one for the cloud.

I have no idea how u think you can provide quality of service , unless u plug into a datacenter. (let me guess there will be a million people renting out diskspace at launch)
The competitive pricing comes from people not taking their electric bill and hardware costs into account.
arent there also Legual issues im sure internet providers have huge lists of rules about what u can and cant do , renting out their bandwith to a third party i would assume beeing one of them.
Im sure they wont come after the little guy , but they will know where to find u.

call it fud or whatever u want , but i doubt im the only one that feels this way.

The uses are unlimited. You can make anything accessible from a mobile device. Music, photo's, books, personal publishing. blogs, records, titles/deeds, sales sites, trading. All by using the  features of the SuperNET through VRC and providing complete anonimity/private. Wanting privacy doesn't mean your doing something illicit. My business is " nobody's business"but my own.

Competitive pricing will take away from present provider Google and put reveune in the pockets of the people who will monetise the Disk space surplus. It's a more efficent use of resources all around as well as redistribute the wealth with individuals  able to compete with a few clicks and no need to create an infrastucture to do it.

We've got a new page just for Vericoin - http://cryptscout.com/coins/Vericoin/ - Get the latest prices, tweets, news, forum threads & everything in-between

Can u name me 1 decentralized cloud storage?