Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 260. (Read 1356147 times)

sorry Michael I meant to address the fee question before

coinsis has not published a fee structure.

there is no "verification" (I'm aware of) for opening an account that would include a VeriCard

transactions are stored on the Block chain, so they are secure.

coinsis says it can used anywhere VISA is accepted. That would mean if a resturant in Tahiti takes VISA you should be able to use a VERICARD. IMO?

I haven't found any information about verification nor the fees they charge.
I mean, it's another company that wants to make money beside Visa.
In Europe we have the MAESTRO Card you can pay with nearly everywhere and it has very low fees. I also have a Master Card but it's more expencive. So what do we need another Credit Card for? Maybe I'm wrong, time will show up.

Thx to the devs for the work they put in this project.

I don't want to be just negative: the technic is working very well. Transactions are fast and stakeing and multipool gives me some nice profit. I hope the price will rise soon.

Regards,
Michael

+100


Buy4crypto is making a valid argument here. There's a distinct lack of clarity surrounding the card. However I'm not 100% sure Doug knows himself fully what's going on with it due to the company supplying these probably hasn't finalised it themselves. Fees, verification?, will it work outside of USD, if so what's the conversion rate. Is it chip and pin like we have here in the UK or is a swipe one like you have in the US. Lots of questions.

However it's not a pressing issue because I can't see the demand for these been all that high. 

It's basically a Debit card that's acceptted anywhere they take VISA

www.coinsis.com      for info or vericoin.info

vericoinnews.com is always a good choice to find out the latest

 

VERI NICE.   veri cc

 

Basically, it is a pre-paid piece of shit. No verification required. Its the same type of cc they give out to people who can't get credit.

I've got some questions:

To use this Card, do you have to go through a verification process?
Is it accepted worldwide?
What about the fees they charge?

Thx for answering and regards,
Michael

How many days, when you guys completing the cards order.
I am really excited to see, and hold 1 card with VRC loaded.

Well, that went well, didn't it. LOL

This card filled with 10k VRC will be my present in jingle bells time to my loved ones.
But it will be some trouble to register it on their name.

Let dev4 work for free

I don't really have a problem. I am seeking clarity as to the extent of the deal, ect. Maybe I should go ask devs from the other coins who apparently have signed similar deals. I don't like that this was billed as a big deal for vericoin, but it was a small deal for the other 2 coins using the same card, and the same technology. Those developers didn't make a large spectacle of the deal like ours did, and its scary to think about how pumped up people have got for things like this in the past.

We have the luxury of time to tell you unequivocally that everything launched was a failure. The peak of Vericoin price was not on a product release, but on a roadmap of future promises that time tells us where complete failures, never forget that. From the Veri-Fiat promise that was a failure, to the devs reassuring everyone many times Wizrig was legit and going to change the world starting with vericoin (they trully believed it, or sold you they did).


This is a right step towards the goals of vericoin, I agree with that. Now the execution will have to be done well to ensure any momentum, and ability to create value from this deal. In the past our developers have failed achieving the vision for any release they have had. Not 1 has overwhelmed and to me this is worrysome. If the developers where trying hard to change, I would be supporting this coin to no end. I cannot get answers to see if people helped them on vericoins behalf, or if they did this on their own and are not going to share with us the details of the transaction vericoin is now a part of. One that may limit future, larger companies, with more resources to want to invest, due to some small hobby from a community member that is being touted as the next biggest thing!

Thats another thing that stikes me is the lack of attention to detail. If you cared about everything down to the smallest detail, you wouldn't continuously rush another product, and put your previous failures further and further behind without being resolved would you? Rushing failures under the rug is the worst way to deal with them. Rather we should confront failure and learn from it. If someone had attention to detail in the group we would not be making many of the same mistakes that we are doing that will doom this coin to failure. I hope everyone has thought this through. I wanted to ask a few questions to put vericoin in a position to succeed. And asking smart questions is necessary to vet out the decision making process of our devs in this deal. This is information everyone should demand, but somehow, I am the only one thinking clearly enough to ask if it will be given to us to view what we are a part of.


For example:


What if Paypal, Mastercard, or any upcoming payment service is/was considering integrating or making a vericoin card. You think now that "Coinsis" is associated with the project, however loosely it is, that they would do that at that point?

This deal could be good, or bad. Nobody knows without having any information on the deal, and what it means to vericoin. What rights, if any has vericoin given up. I would ask this on the communities behalf again as I hope many more of you now understand the importance of what my first post today has been trying to get to. What are the terms of this deal pls? Doug said VeriCoin is covered. Covered incase of what? Who is protected from what, and if people need protection, what are the parts of the deal requiring so. Sounds like something the community should be aware of.

Community members who are behind having this, and other questions relating to this deal answered may want to speak up, or I will just be drowned out as unreasonable, and fudding.

Hi guys,

I am just taking a short break from my break to show that I am still supporting Vericoin.

Soo, a few comments from me:

@effects: great job, Vericoin is positively back in the news and continues on its path towards the main goals
                (ease of use, mainstream adoption).

@buy4crypto: I can feel your struggle   ... I think you are (rightfully to a certain extent) too negative on the
                       development. I also think you became negative because of the recent price drop (which is maybe
                       still not over yet) and not so much because of the developers´ action/inaction.
                      
                       So please don´t follow the dark side and come back ... maybe not now, but in a few weeks.

@altcoinUK: Well bro, I have a feeling, that you are already lost to the dark side of BobPlop and gang. Your point of
                  view regarding importance of blockchain2 is simply wrong. Vericoin does not need
                  blockchain2 on itself. It can use existing platforms like ripple, stellar and what else is going to get
                  realized on this field. I feel like you are just annoyed, that your point does not get the dev´s and
                  community´s attention you had hoped for.
                
Vericoin is a virtual currency first and it is the goal to promote it as such. For example: Ripple is promoted as a transfer platform and not as a currency, the same with Ethereum. Stellar is just a Mcaleb Ripple clone with (allegedly) better distribution of the platform´s internal currency. If someone wants to invest in blockchain2, simply do it. But blockchain2 integration into vericoin is simply a waste of resources.

We should focus on the wallet right now. Security for minting, something like Peerbox would be great and will help to strengthen the network. If you need to clone it, do it and give credits to Peercoin´s Peerchemist.


Uh, ah ... a last word from me on the new developer:

1. I hope it is not one of the blackcoin guys.  
2. If the goal is to bring Vericoin to a higher price level, by hiring a new dev, I am against it. If the goal is to
    actually improve the wallet and to ease the workload of the three devs I would say yes. So because we know
    how drkman announced the man, I am against it.  

EDIT: spelling

You don't understand it and this credit card isn't going to move the coin forward - as you can see that clearly from depressed market reaction. This VISA card will be used by only bag holders and fanboys, maximum 100 users worldwide. The delusional worldwide mass adoption theme will be not progressing with this card.

The worldwide mass adoption theme would benefit more from an agreement with the Massai tribe in Kenya to use vericoin in goat trade - that's how lame this credit card idea is.

No problem and good luck with your research.

There are growing implementations and start-ups for green address type of things. One that support instant BTC transactions is https://greenaddress.it

You asked about instant transaction and that's why I mentioned the green address concept, and pointed out that the instant feature is not good enough unique selling point against BTC.

Yes, you re right, for mass adoption crypto needs to be more easy to use for the average user.

and wait for it... while the fudders are writing their 10 paragraphs of fud lolololol  in 5.... 4.... 3... 2....1....

its nice to see positive words

I have addressed that question on www.vrcradio.com today @ 10 AM EST

tune-in and catch the replay.

here's a recent article you folks might find interesting. Comments?


http://www.infowars.com/whistleblower-fed-highly-alarmed-about-bitcoin-conquering-dollar-system/

I also think we need the automoderated thread.

internet is full of trolls and never grow any currency if we ignore this rabble.

if these people had been at the beginning of btc, most would be crying now.

I'm not very active in the community since I do not have much English level although I am aware of the news and trust that vericoin becomes a currency of "everyday"

veribank the idea I like ... not because it has not been given much hype.

Greetings to all and hope that developers make a strong community because it appears that you have knowledge.

Greetings