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It seems that exchanges will never improve their security and will always be at mercy of hackers.

Yeah thanks for that explaination. i know very well what critisism means and thats how i meant it.

Anyway as long as i understand it you do spreading very bad mood all along this thread,
i would like to see a joyfull and happy barabbas.
A smily a day maybe like this --->

So are you getting paid for this vericoin work? I read a few pages back, you offered your service twice and have been waiting for big money offers come through. Now it seems you are a de-facto leader which would be amazing achievement from your part given that no one really can understand what you say and what's your role, whether you are a FUDster, hater, cynic critics, worker, bag holder, supporter, cyber-visionary, missionary, strategist or VeriLeader candidate - or perhaps all together. What are you Barrabas, are you going to lead the world day initiative?

Nice bro I speak Italian also

First of all I am on the side of people that self respect themselves and don't idiotically diminish themselves like you just did a few posts above prompted by the rant of a drunk. I am on the side of people that will push themselves to excel at whatever tasks they set for themselves and that never, ever, will define themselves as "shit", "failure" or whatever  used to portray yourself as the lowest possible form of a community representative, ok? Pull yourself together, take a long shower -with soap and shampoo- get the cleanest clothes you can muster and represent Vericoin with dignity and enthusiasm, ok?

Only AFTER you have done that and re-evaluate what you have in you, I am on the side of creating a worldwide event in which you will play a part promoting VERICON. It is a historical event, World Vericon Day. And contrary to what some may think, while it will take one day only, it will "live" forever" through the graphic evidences posted everywhere and, most importantly, through the subsequent work, on a day to day basis, that you and many other worthy VRC leaders will carry out across the world.

Finally, study the word "critic", so you will have an appreciation of what it means. I know, much like "work" it is a word whose meaning seem lost in the young generation. Being critic is not negative, but the opposite. Especially when the criticisms come with ideas, suggestions and alternatives. There's no such a thing -although people in your generation use and abuse the adjective- as "positive" criticism. All criticisms are positive so it is like calling water wet. But the arrogant cannot see it that way, of course, therefore it is termed, usually, "negative", which is like calling water "dry". Or, the "delicate" that instead of "positive" substite the adjective by "objective", another impossibility in terms.  I am critical of the many aspects of Vericoin where we have come short -and indeed still come short... read above about the multipool-. And I am a critic of all the things done wrong or, worse yet, not done at all. And no matter how supportive of the project I may be, I will continue to push the foot to the pedal to get things done, to get the PROPER things done.

I am also very critical of dispersing resources trying to be everything to everybody while being nothing specific instead and drifting into oblivion, like we were 24 hours or so ago, while everyone seemed to be on vacation or, ultimately, hanging hopes on "secret weapons" announcements bound to disappoint. And I am critical towards arrogance, mine included. In all cases, even when "justified" by knowledge/experience. But I am especially critic of the arrogance that impedes flexibility and progression.

I'm afraid I won't have clarified much to you, but perhaps you should think a little bit more, collect your thoughts and ideas and then decide what your perception is going to be.

I'm counting of your... the best version of you you can offer, that is.

that is a lot of words to read but the time taken by you to explain these is apperciated

About the hack at Next...

First of all, I believe NXT had, by leaps and bounds, the best platform in crypto. But the project has a very serious problem: Distribution. Some 71-72 people actually own the thing (90% of it anyway) and those same people are collecting 99% of all the "forging" (staking). That is the only reason I haven't supported and invested in NXT other than a few quick trades in the past.

Second of all, major as it is, the hack cannot be compared to the one VRC suffered since this ones has come up with 5% of NXT while "ours" took 30% and control of the coin without roll back. Not the same thing at all. Same TYPE of thing.

Thirdly, it appears that they have decided to roll back. Like when it happened here, I believe not cave in and rewarding the thief is the proper course of action. Always. No exceptions.

If anything, we can learn one lesson I have been trying to hammer here for a while now: The idea of so called "decentralized exchanges" do not work and will not work and the only thing they do is take time and resources away. Once again, VRC should focus efforts in becoming the clean brand in crypto and that the wallets are the best that they can be. Anything else, everyone is already working on it -wasting their time and resources- and everyone will be able to simply copy/paste the best, more proven of them, in the near future, from so called "anon" to "decentralized exchanges" to that thing we are trying to copy from PINK in which a password or sorts will be linked to the wallet address. First, we will save time and resources needed in other areas and, more importantly, we should give the credit where it is due. Oh, and by the way, our "multipool" (Dave, Dave, Dave) is atrocious (when it works, which is not often). Obviously we have some quite basic work to do...

Now, I won't make any more comments here about that because they have their own thread and I would suggest those so inclined to post their opinions or comments over there. We are rather busy here trying to keep the interest in OUR coin that only hours ago was being "hacked", so to speak, by total indifference and despair.

As I have anticipated, be prepared to be disappointed by the "secret weapons" announcements coming up. But don't despair because it appears the dev team is behind the latest branding ideas and, if fully confirmed, and enthusiastically, we will have a huge promotional event taking place worldwide very soon and, with it, the interest and the new investors we know we absolutely need for, like the last crisis proved thoroughly, the community, as it stands now, being by far the strongest in crypto, is not nearly enough to keep VRC alive, let alone thrive.

And thrive it will if we supports smart actions to bring it to the people outside of crypto instead of catering to the retrogrades (or self called purists) that support the dark side of crypto, the fraudsters, scammers and hackers that have held and still hold crypto currencies up for ransom and stigmatized them in the view of general public AND corporate investors. We will seek to promote the clean, honest, transparent and secure brand. And I am quite sure people and investors both will respond positively.

Now devs, I would advise you remove the otherwise ugly and amateurish graphics that seem to indicate cloak and dagger, the zorro-like one and the other. As a matter of fact, anything black at all... including the tendency -that's not in the graphics, unfortunately, for they have the BEST logo in thbe world, not just in crypto- to follow on Blackcoin, from "roadmaps" with bars to actual content. That coin is doomed by their own corrupted devs and VRC should strive to stay away from any kind of associations of that nature.

Now, copying from PINK, a clean coin, is ok... as long as credit is due. I profoundly dislike Boxxa, he's an asshole, but he is also the creator of that password thingy that allows you to type something simple instead of the bunch of characters that are the address of the wallet. Copy it, if you must, but give credit where credit is due. We are the good guys, the ones setting new standards, remember? We should be able to give credit to whoever deserves it, even if he, as the case in point is, is an asshole.

Yeah I shouldn't act like an idiot asshole, sorry for that foolish post. Galix, Buy4Crypto, Reavon, Barrabas are all nice, enthusiastic guys willing to work for vericoin and you are right such idiotic critical post doesn't add anything to the process. Go vericoin! 

Actually rollback is about consensus and not dev decision. If miners/wallets wont update to a rollbacked fork, there is no rollback.

With vrc the devs decided with exchanges to fork. After that you cant send non-forked coins to exchange and therefore making them worthless. At least NXT is having a conversation about pros and cons, and not a handful of guys deciding.

In PoW this would be more difficult as the miners who have been rewarded coins for mining would probably not agree as easily to lose their mined coins. So this rollback thingie is more a problem with PoS as there is nothing at stake in rolling back. And after VRC, the pandoras box is opened.

Actually not.
Bitcoin was rollbacked in a stadium where everyone who has dealed with bitcoin stayed tuned everyday on new wallet releases. Therefore it was possible to do so back than.

Now they couldnt never ever rollback for mtGox because , bitcoin is to big to fail right now , i hope everyone knows that. The only thing could kill bitcoin is a EMP world wide that kills every asicminer but one which has the most power than. Or a quantumcomputer...O.o(maybe i dont know)

Since every dev of every coin, can make a rollback, the 100% free decentralized currency is a myth.

Btc have a rollback too.

Barabbas i am veri confused about you buddy on whichs side are you exactly?
Pro vericoin? Critic on vericoin? I am to lazy to read you essays

Being critical is one think, appreciated -when coming from knowledge and experience- by some, me included.

Posting idiotic rants while under teh obvious influence of alcohol or whatever, is something else altogether... and not deserving of a second more.

wow..just another day in crypto…smells

bter - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bter-hacked-and-lost-50m-nxt-740147

this is not normal guys , some team of super hackers tries to fuck with cryptoscene... Maybe a headhunt ordert by goverment?

We need to take all our coins from exchanges and investigate whats goin on !!!
An alliance of Crypto is need who strikes back , when every there is an attack on a coin through stealing it on a exchange
and we need dezentralised and easy to use exchanges fast!

thats good.. upon reading your suggestion yesterday i added the vericoin.info to my page (twitter, fb)..

They decided to save an exchange and to tarnish the image of coin as a free and decentralized currency..
Faith in Vrc dropped like a stone , price went after.

Nxt in the next trying to do the same stunt.

Yes indeed! It's was a hard decision here and an even harder one there. Until exchanges get the message and start taking security seriously, we haven't seen the last of these incidents. Did you read the part about Lin from Bter using the same password throughout the exchange and accounts? It's things like this that keep the doors open for theft. Our industry needs to grow up and bite the bullet on security and 2FA should be required everywhere money or value is stored, held or manipulated.

The decisions we make, or ignore, now will shape the industry...

Holy crap- same as giving in to terrorists (not that the hacker isn't one). In a case like this- i would absolutely side with a decision to do a rollback. If ransoms start getting paid, well, we all know what will start to happen.