But, you know, Patric is more on the fatty side, regardless of my appreciation, Doug repeats "at the end of the day" way too many times in public and dev3 looks the picture perfect of the nerd that never gets laid. You think that is personal attacks or just a personal appreciation of the obvious? Also, from where I am standing, they are three nice kids playing a game of adults, full of youthful arrogance, so far incapable of admitting they have made mistakes -and they have- and making that some people -like you- will believe and put their money behind those beliefs- that they are "professionals" when, in fact, they have a hobby called VRC and they are professionals at nothing (they are students), except for dev3 of course that, until new layoffs come at least, still makes a living off or working at Microsoft, so, even more than for the other two, VRC is just a side hobby, nothing else. And that is a reality way beyond whatever you make your mind believe, through and through.
I'm just glad you aren't attracted to me as you are with Socal.
The level of idiocy that purported humans are capable of, in some cases, never ceases to amaze me. And when you put it together with blind greed so prevalent here, we are talking stratospheric idiocy.
And, of course, no answer to the very relevant question. What the hell does it matter when all you care about is the price rebounding... or pretending you are here for the long run no matter what.
And if you are a guy from Valencia somehow astonishingly convinced he is somewhat intelligent, the shit reaches proportions intergalactic, really.
Hey, to each his own. If you don't care that 15 million coins are really staking while credit is given to 28 million instead, the only thing I can do is demand answers, THE REAL KIND. Either way, no one can achieve that total idiots will somehow develop a brain.
There are not only 15 M coins staking, likely closer to 20-22 M. And I did answer your question. Several times. It's not my fault you didn't go to a top 24 university and can't understand simple explanations.
It would appear that it is you who is attracted to socal, since you are sooo close that you keep him on the loop -albeit on a necessary short leash- being as he is toxic for the coin. Hey, I don't have anything against anyone's attractions, to each his own.
What is it then, can you or can you not know how many coins, real ones, are staking at any given time? Why 15 million is categorically not possible but 20-22 is "likely closer"? And under what measurement, even if those figures of 20-22 million prove to in fact be "more likely" is that "not too much bigger"? as Doug put it.
The answers, dear Patrick, much as your private "explanation" of the reasons behind the 200k transfer, are far from shedding real light on the issue at hand. No, I did not attend a top 24 university but I am extraordinarily good at looking things up on google. And I "get" things quite above whatever average, including those who are studying -with a lot to go- on top 23 universities, like you.
You can look in the blockchain and see which addresses are generating new coins. That is the only way you can see how many coins are staking currently. Of the top 5 wallets, #1 -3.3 M are in Mintpal (
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?92241.htm), #2 - 3.0 M are in an unknown account with staking enabled (
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?94081.htm), #3 - 1.0 M is in an unknown wallet without staking enabled (
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?92873.htm), #4 - 811k is in an unknown account with staking enabled (
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?22282.htm), #5 - 600k is in an unknown account without staking enabled (
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?93966.htm).
That leaves 3.3M + 1.0M + 0.6M = 4.9M without staking enabled. These accounts are likely cold storage accounts for exchanges (#1 is confirmed to be MP as it is where the reversed-pre-hack-coins went). Most of the rest of the coins appear to be staking. This is why I believe around 20M coins are staking right now. Go look at various wallets and if you see frequent transactions for ~1 VRC or less, that address is staking.
I'm not sure what the "issue at hand" is, but frankly, I don't really care what you consider to be the issue or not. I'm getting back to work to help turn VeriCoin into the best coin there is and not wasting time battling you on here because you're not willing and/or able to understand what I've said numerous times by now.
I am quite willing and quite able. And I thank you for taking the time to give, for the first time, a decent explanation about how many coins are, potentially, REALLY staking. And the figure, as we all agree on, is quite impressive indeed. BUT that doesn't dissolve magically the FACTS of the
"issue at hand": The difference between approximately 20 million coins staking and 28+ million in the weighted/coinage system is STAGGERING, as I have already pointed out many, many times and not, in any way shape or form anything that can be dismissed, like Doug tried to, as some figure m"not too much bigger... 40% is, again, STAGGERINGLY bigger. Besides confusing and not meaning anything really for the meaningful number is, of course, the 20 million REAL coins that are not being offered for trade and are, indeed supporting both the network and the coin.
I hope you get now what the issue at hand was... before you, with your arrogance, created others completely unnecessarily... I guess your ego requires that just like it does require not accepting that you made a HUGE mistake transferring your 200k coins and setting well walls at the time of the roll back. It would be promising if you would start to respect everyone, more or less, that posts here and not immediately assume that your level, on anything really, is superior to anyone. First because it isn't even remotely close to true and second because, precisely the indication that it would be occasionally true would be demonstrated by the fact that you don't assume it to be so. Go on a digest that for a while, it may take a second or two to get the full meaning of it.
Finally, I'm sure everyone would appreciate your efforts and those of the other devs to try to make VRC
the best coin there is. If this were enthusiasm for the project, it would be great; as it happens, we all know it is, again, a showing of unwarranted youthful arrogance for there's absolutely no indication whatsoever that VRC is going on that direction any time fast. I, on the other hand, am more of a results driven individual who doesn't care much for the efforts... if you literally kill yourself trying to be the greatest basketball player in history, your effort may be huge indeed... as huge as the result disappointing. I'm sure you catch my metaphor (after all that 23rd university might have provided some understanding of such, although perhaps it is still premature to assume so... as you can see, irony and sarcasms are easily accessible to anyone), so just doing the best you can would be more than enough for me.
For now. And not for too much longer. As many others have noted here, this project is dramatically short in results and extremely long in cheerleaders. Not a good, or even sustainable, combination.