Just registered here as just being a lurker is no fun and frustrating as hell reading so much crap. I really think Vericoin has potential but we need to get our shit together and start having intelligent discussions around the future of the coin. The Devs can only do so much!
Monkeys your idea of the referral could be game changing. If a percentage of coins made through staking were used as part of a referral scheme we would see much faster growth. This feature could be hard coded in!! People are lazy but if they have an incentive then their attitude changes. Referral schemes have shown to be a successful marketing strategy for thousands of companies, we need to do this. The Verifund in theory is a great idea but in practice is useless. It relies on peoples generosity to fund new projects. Your probably thinking then why shouldn't we send a percentage of the coins to the verifund. To answer this I would say that at this stage it is more important to get an influx of new users and with it growth. The incentive for people to start developing projects is the fact the user base is growing, the coin price is increasing.
Remember all this venture capital money going into Bitcoin is investing in Crypto, NOT Bitcoin. If we aim for massive user growth and achieve this then these companies will start turning their heads. In my humble opinion the referral scheme goes some way in doing this.
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July 25, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
July 25, 2014, 06:37:41 AM
Here is a referral program crypto. I doubt you can gain anything from it, as it is horribly run, but others are doing this idea with referrals.
The coin is called Latium if anyone is trying to see how other cryptos do referral.
The coin is called Latium if anyone is trying to see how other cryptos do referral.
THat refferal programme not working greatly, I saw some complaint about them.
July 25, 2014, 06:36:35 AM
Here is a referral program crypto. I doubt you can gain anything from it, as it is horribly run, but others are doing this idea with referrals.
The coin is called Latium if anyone is trying to see how other cryptos do referral.
The coin is called Latium if anyone is trying to see how other cryptos do referral.
July 25, 2014, 06:20:53 AM
I'd like to also reiterate that I believe that if the referral program was built in the the actual coin itself, and that by referring new users who become VeriFied you are minted a small amount of VRC as a reward. The coin would grow literally exponentially with one or two years.
The extra inflation this would cause would be insignificant next to the growth of the market cap as a result.
Thoughts?
The extra inflation this would cause would be insignificant next to the growth of the market cap as a result.
Thoughts?
July 25, 2014, 06:17:14 AM
Anon is popular, because bitcoin people are loony hoarders and financial meltdown freaks.
Uhm, no, anon is popular because crypto will never be used legally in any reasonable way. The big governments of the world are cracking down on it. Some will ban it outright (Russia, China), others will regulate it more and more until it's not viable as a currency anymore (New York). This is reality as we see it today.
Look at bitcoin transaction volume, a coffee shop in seattle wash has more transaction volume than the whole bitcoin currency.
That's because the hoarders feel that it will go up in value. And if that's the case with Vericoin (which we all hope), then it will be hoarded aswell.
July 25, 2014, 06:15:06 AM
to all of you just joining the convo Monkeys had a very good VERIfication idea and effects has even stated that they (the Devs) are working on addressing BOTH ends of the spectrum in other words an optional Verification method and an optional Anon method, I thinks Monkeys Idea needs a bit of possible refinement and we also need to figure a way to viably and quickly implement the referral idea as well
Cheers Socal =)
I firmly believe that if the Verification and some sort of a referral program were to be implemented right now, a Vericoin would EXPLODE, firstly within the crypto world, and then not too long after in to the mainstream.
I have no doubt about this.
You could literally build an entire coin based on these two ideas alone. No other coin has anything like this, and combined they would be a game changer
Even if the devs were to come in here and discuss or even say that they plan to EVENTUALLY implement these two ideas, well...
July 25, 2014, 05:41:35 AM
to all of you just joining the convo Monkeys had a very good VERIfication idea and effects has even stated that they (the Devs) are working on addressing BOTH ends of the spectrum in other words an optional Verification method and an optional Anon method, I thinks Monkeys Idea needs a bit of possible refinement and we also need to figure a way to viably and quickly implement the referral idea as well
July 25, 2014, 05:38:40 AM
Guys, just remember that the NewYork regulations might apply to more states with their copy/pasting. So if Doug wrote that he has an idea for making a better anon solution, then that should be included aswell and not tossed out the window.
I think anon is all the rage right now because the crypto community has this gut feeling that the regulations against crypto will be getting more strict with time, and they might be right.
But I love the VeriFied idea aswell.
Anon is popular, because bitcoin people are loony hoarders and financial meltdown freaks.
Look at bitcoin transaction volume, a coffee shop in seattle wash has more transaction volume than the whole bitcoin currency.
Anon is the worst thing crypto could be focussed on right now. VeriCoin needs to come OUT of the shadows, not play around in them with criminal minded people. I am not saying that all are, but generally those working on anonymous solutions are doing so to bring crypto deeper into the dark ages. Here is a chance to make it mainstream. Not just a saying we will, but a real chance to create separation.
July 25, 2014, 05:37:54 AM
Because we are very lucky our coin is called VeriCoin "verification Coin"
We are really in the position to implement a VerificationSend feature and I mentioned it already a month ago. But ok here are my thought how it should work to make the communication between customers and merchants better secure and fast as possible! And only we can do it.
First: We need to have service platform like coinbase maybe which verifies accounts and identity to a given vericoin address/adresses.
Second: when a customer sends a certain amount of vrc to a merchant this transaction should have implement, a address to send vrc back to customer in case of retour.
Fees really always have to be in cents area. So I can send for example 5 bucks to buy something that costs 4.99 $ no headache.
And a cryptocoin payment for a merchant is more valuable than they even know.
Because when you pay with cryptocoin a merchant can receive the money instantly and can send out the package faster = estimated 20%more customer traffic.
Why 20 percent? Look at the " Sunday problem" we all know the Sunday problem, you don't want to pay PayPal fees or you don't have PayPal and you buy something at a online store. So you want pay with you Giro card¬>transaction on monday¬>online shop brings package on Monday evening ¬>to late for Tuesday delivery the package comes on Wednesday.
So most of just need it at Tuesday, so you better not buy it but go on Monday to the mall and buy it there for cash to have it faster.
With vericoin it looks like this Transaction on Sunday¬>online shop gives the package to delivery on Monday morning. Delivery comes just in time on Tuesday.
The same problem is solved in the" Friday problem" because on Germany the are no transactions on Saturdays from banks....
Faggots...
So go for it Verisend ! Not an anon function but a verifyfunction
And anon should be called VeriGate or VeriLock or VeriHide maybe just invisible with a Eye symbol , VeriShield or VeriSecure should
Be a theft/loss protection feature which for example turn a USB stick into a functional protected wallet.
We are really in the position to implement a VerificationSend feature and I mentioned it already a month ago. But ok here are my thought how it should work to make the communication between customers and merchants better secure and fast as possible! And only we can do it.
First: We need to have service platform like coinbase maybe which verifies accounts and identity to a given vericoin address/adresses.
Second: when a customer sends a certain amount of vrc to a merchant this transaction should have implement, a address to send vrc back to customer in case of retour.
Fees really always have to be in cents area. So I can send for example 5 bucks to buy something that costs 4.99 $ no headache.
And a cryptocoin payment for a merchant is more valuable than they even know.
Because when you pay with cryptocoin a merchant can receive the money instantly and can send out the package faster = estimated 20%more customer traffic.
Why 20 percent? Look at the " Sunday problem" we all know the Sunday problem, you don't want to pay PayPal fees or you don't have PayPal and you buy something at a online store. So you want pay with you Giro card¬>transaction on monday¬>online shop brings package on Monday evening ¬>to late for Tuesday delivery the package comes on Wednesday.
So most of just need it at Tuesday, so you better not buy it but go on Monday to the mall and buy it there for cash to have it faster.
With vericoin it looks like this Transaction on Sunday¬>online shop gives the package to delivery on Monday morning. Delivery comes just in time on Tuesday.
The same problem is solved in the" Friday problem" because on Germany the are no transactions on Saturdays from banks....
Faggots...
So go for it Verisend ! Not an anon function but a verifyfunction
And anon should be called VeriGate or VeriLock or VeriHide maybe just invisible with a Eye symbol , VeriShield or VeriSecure should
Be a theft/loss protection feature which for example turn a USB stick into a functional protected wallet.
This guy gets it.
+1
July 25, 2014, 05:36:50 AM
On another note, how about some nice pics of VeriBit being used to withdraw GBP from a Bitcoin ATM in London?
Flight Tickets purchased via Cheapair with Bitcoin
Hotel room booked and paid via Expedia with Bitcoin
GBP to cover trip expenses, withdrawn via Android Vericoin wallet, through VeriBit.
KaCHing!!!
Thanks Vericoin, you saved someone's bacon when they were left high and dry by a late paying client.
Flight Tickets purchased via Cheapair with Bitcoin
Hotel room booked and paid via Expedia with Bitcoin
GBP to cover trip expenses, withdrawn via Android Vericoin wallet, through VeriBit.
KaCHing!!!
Thanks Vericoin, you saved someone's bacon when they were left high and dry by a late paying client.
have you shared this on twitter if so let me know the link I would love to retweet this..
July 25, 2014, 05:35:45 AM
Guys, just remember that the NewYork regulations might apply to more states with their copy/pasting. So if Doug wrote that he has an idea for making a better anon solution, then that should be included aswell and not tossed out the window.
I think anon is all the rage right now because the crypto community has this gut feeling that the regulations against crypto will be getting more strict with time, and they might be right.
But I love the VeriFied idea aswell.
July 25, 2014, 05:34:48 AM
is this coin will die or go on?
Can't stop, Won't stop
July 25, 2014, 05:31:50 AM
is this coin will die or go on?
July 25, 2014, 05:27:36 AM
I've got another idea to help spread Vericoin to new users. A referral program.
The fact of the matter is that people need incentives to actually actively tell people about Vericoin, and to encourage them to download the wallet, and BUY Vericoin.
What better way to do this than to reward people who actually get new users to start using Vercoin, than to reward them with Vericoin?
Now, for this to work it would go hand in hand with Verification, this would prevent exploitation, as only once a new user has been verified, would rewards be paid to the referrer.
Thoughts?
The fact of the matter is that people need incentives to actually actively tell people about Vericoin, and to encourage them to download the wallet, and BUY Vericoin.
What better way to do this than to reward people who actually get new users to start using Vercoin, than to reward them with Vericoin?
Now, for this to work it would go hand in hand with Verification, this would prevent exploitation, as only once a new user has been verified, would rewards be paid to the referrer.
Thoughts?
1+
wow you a full of great idea... I think that is a great idea and would get more people getting the word out about vrc... I bet we could be add more of a twist on this idea with feedback from other users.. here..
July 25, 2014, 05:21:31 AM
effectsToCause (Doug) has written yesterday about developing a new method of anonymity that can compete with the best of them.
Tbh, i couldn't care less about anonymity.. What's the big deal with anonymity really!!?? Are we all just drug dealers and scammers that all we care about is anonymity?
I propose the opposite of anonymity, VERIFICATION! As an option of course. Surely a coin like VERIcoin could see the value of true verification attached to wallets?
"Vericoin Verified" anyone?
Which would you feel more comfortable with, sending your money to a merchant with a verified identity, or sending money to a merchant with an anonymous and untraceable transaction??
Seriously, anonymity is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of for a currency that is supposed to be going MAINSTREAM? It's completely counter intuitive..
Lets discuss =)
+1
totally agree with you on that one.... verified... would be cool.... only people that have something to hide need anonymity...
I would rather deal with a verified vrc address then with an address that may be a scammer as there can be no forced refunds when using crypto...
July 25, 2014, 05:06:49 AM
Because we are very lucky our coin is called VeriCoin "verification Coin"
We are really in the position to implement a VerificationSend feature and I mentioned it already a month ago. But ok here are my thought how it should work to make the communication between customers and merchants better secure and fast as possible! And only we can do it.
First: We need to have service platform like coinbase maybe which verifies accounts and identity to a given vericoin address/adresses.
Second: when a customer sends a certain amount of vrc to a merchant this transaction should have implement, a address to send vrc back to customer in case of retour.
Fees really always have to be in cents area. So I can send for example 5 bucks to buy something that costs 4.99 $ no headache.
And a cryptocoin payment for a merchant is more valuable than they even know.
Because when you pay with cryptocoin a merchant can receive the money instantly and can send out the package faster = estimated 20%more customer traffic.
Why 20 percent? Look at the " Sunday problem" we all know the Sunday problem, you don't want to pay PayPal fees or you don't have PayPal and you buy something at a online store. So you want pay with you Giro card¬>transaction on monday¬>online shop brings package on Monday evening ¬>to late for Tuesday delivery the package comes on Wednesday.
So most of just need it at Tuesday, so you better not buy it but go on Monday to the mall and buy it there for cash to have it faster.
With vericoin it looks like this Transaction on Sunday¬>online shop gives the package to delivery on Monday morning. Delivery comes just in time on Tuesday.
The same problem is solved in the" Friday problem" because on Germany the are no transactions on Saturdays from banks....
Faggots...
So go for it Verisend ! Not an anon function but a verifyfunction
And anon should be called VeriGate or VeriLock or VeriHide maybe just invisible with a Eye symbol , VeriShield or VeriSecure should
Be a theft/loss protection feature which for example turn a USB stick into a functional protected wallet.
We are really in the position to implement a VerificationSend feature and I mentioned it already a month ago. But ok here are my thought how it should work to make the communication between customers and merchants better secure and fast as possible! And only we can do it.
First: We need to have service platform like coinbase maybe which verifies accounts and identity to a given vericoin address/adresses.
Second: when a customer sends a certain amount of vrc to a merchant this transaction should have implement, a address to send vrc back to customer in case of retour.
Fees really always have to be in cents area. So I can send for example 5 bucks to buy something that costs 4.99 $ no headache.
And a cryptocoin payment for a merchant is more valuable than they even know.
Because when you pay with cryptocoin a merchant can receive the money instantly and can send out the package faster = estimated 20%more customer traffic.
Why 20 percent? Look at the " Sunday problem" we all know the Sunday problem, you don't want to pay PayPal fees or you don't have PayPal and you buy something at a online store. So you want pay with you Giro card¬>transaction on monday¬>online shop brings package on Monday evening ¬>to late for Tuesday delivery the package comes on Wednesday.
So most of just need it at Tuesday, so you better not buy it but go on Monday to the mall and buy it there for cash to have it faster.
With vericoin it looks like this Transaction on Sunday¬>online shop gives the package to delivery on Monday morning. Delivery comes just in time on Tuesday.
The same problem is solved in the" Friday problem" because on Germany the are no transactions on Saturdays from banks....
Faggots...
So go for it Verisend ! Not an anon function but a verifyfunction
And anon should be called VeriGate or VeriLock or VeriHide maybe just invisible with a Eye symbol , VeriShield or VeriSecure should
Be a theft/loss protection feature which for example turn a USB stick into a functional protected wallet.
July 25, 2014, 04:55:21 AM
The main dev has left... who was that... please share... was there not 3 devs... so you are say now there is only 2 devs left... who are you talking about that left.
Read further. I replied to him and corrected his mistake, he thought coblee (the main dev for Litecoin) was a dev for Vericoin, he never was.
And Bobsurplus admitted his mistake. See below.
even the main dev has left this project due to that!
All you do is lie.
Charlie is done and it's all because of the rollback.
He even called the coin a parasite!
I made a mistake. It was until0 who said "parasite"
http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/2apsj7/litecoin_developers_will_never_fork_litecoin_to/
And Charlie was not a dev on VRC. He's on Litecoin. And he's still invested in VRC.
I stand corrected.. But still, you do understand that rolling back to bail out MP was the death blow to this coin, right?
July 25, 2014, 04:54:58 AM
BARRABAS!!
Stop responding to this nonsense, don't quote the posts, don't use childish language, just be more professional..
You talk about Socal and Wiz not representing the community or VRC in a positive way, well you are doing just the same here.
Rule #1 of the internet: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS
C'mon man. We were on a roll! Now we have to bury this with another page of intelligent conversation, and tbh my brain hurts from trying so hard to lift the IQ of this forum.
Stop responding to this nonsense, don't quote the posts, don't use childish language, just be more professional..
You talk about Socal and Wiz not representing the community or VRC in a positive way, well you are doing just the same here.
Rule #1 of the internet: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS
C'mon man. We were on a roll! Now we have to bury this with another page of intelligent conversation, and tbh my brain hurts from trying so hard to lift the IQ of this forum.
Difference is that I DO NOT represent VRC. I have never represented it nor I have been taken as a representative for VRC. I go solo. And I tell it like it is, at least until I gety bored. If I was representing VRC, you would see me maintaining perfect business etiquette, that's why I choose not to represent anything or anyone, because I don't want my freedom limited by my employment, paid or not.
And when someone, anyone, pretend that I have lied, I take that very, very personally, because I never ever do. Ever.
If that is feeding this stupid troll, then guilty as charged. Chances are that I will respond rather direly to anyone accusing me of such.
Whoever chooses to see me as a representation of VRC will be openly kidding themselves. I represent Barabbas, nothing and no one else.
Yeah, so what? Everyone in this community represents VRC. I never knew that Socal was in any way affiliated with VRC until very recently. The point is that if even the most enthusiastic supporters of VRC can't maintain a level of professionalism in this forum, then VRC is doomed..
I've been doing my absolute best here today to try to keep things on a positive and constructive direction. If everyone could do this, then we would be all heading towards a bigger and better future for VRC!
You want to see the price go back up? Stop feeding the trolls.. Every time there is a stupid trolling comment or something in big red letters, repost a positive comment like the ATM one from above.
I don't think anyone here realizes just how IMPORTANT THIS FORUM IS TO VERICOIN. It is the key. If the community can make this a postive and constructive place where the trolls and fuddsters get no attention then we will be on track for a big future!
Now who's with me? Can I get a +1?
July 25, 2014, 04:53:29 AM
Bob, cmon man...?
Do you really need to come in here just to rub salt in everyone's wounds? We get it, you didn't like the rollback. Maybe you predicted the price drop too.
Do you want a medal?
Grow up and be an adult, not a whinging little kid coming here saying "Naa na na naaa naaaaa. I told you! *blows rasberry*" and so on...
Your attitude is the problem (and I bet you get that a lot in life right?). You could be the smartest man in the world and give the best advice possible, but with your attitude you'd still be a jerk..
Do you really need to come in here just to rub salt in everyone's wounds? We get it, you didn't like the rollback. Maybe you predicted the price drop too.
Do you want a medal?
Grow up and be an adult, not a whinging little kid coming here saying "Naa na na naaa naaaaa. I told you! *blows rasberry*" and so on...
Your attitude is the problem (and I bet you get that a lot in life right?). You could be the smartest man in the world and give the best advice possible, but with your attitude you'd still be a jerk..
I am a jerk! Its ok. I know it and would not change it for the world.
This is not about rubbing salt in wounds, its about saving others stress by not allowing them to fall for the trolls who keep telling them that "vrc is cheap now and to load up".
This coin is only going one way. That's down!
$1000 bet in 2 years.... you will eat your words... lol what a sucker... putting shit on a coin... if you don't like it then leave... find another coin that offers the same as vrc... tell me of a coin that it open with devs... posting their info public... I know of one yet BC... but what other coins... oh yer wait payprocoin is good to... come people look at what the fuck... you need to research...what you are going to invest in...
Do not invest what you can not afford to loose.
If this coin was a 2 month quick rich thing then I guess everyone would be here...
Oh yer BOb have you heard of Cloakcoin I heard it is something good to invest in.... maybe you can talk fud in their thread and talk up the coin....
Long live all the Fud-ters...
July 25, 2014, 04:51:44 AM
I think the most important and encouraging in the VeriCoin operation is that the devs are still interested in the project and working on adding new features. The price goes up and down, right now is down, but the hard work and the release of usable features will take care of the price increase. This is a legit dev team, as PNosker said they are real people building a real money. This transparency is a very unique attribute in the scam driven alt coin market.
Right now people are upset, but 50-100% price swing happens all the time even with real business operation. In the place Russia where I have been dealing/trading/funding IT, telecom and software companies I had experienced with a few 3000% price drop in the last 25 years, there were dead bodies all over the offices, so this is a very calm environment compared to that one, here is even the crypto-history maker scummer pumper WizRig is alive, so nothing dramatic happened here. Price drops are part of the business, even bitcoin has gone through several swing. Again, the hard work from the devs will take care of the price and the future of the coin still very bright.
Which is very encouraging to me that it seems the Devs are finally working on what really matters, the decentralized app feature. No one cares about VeriBit (why would anyone want it when we can pay with bitcoin, no wonder there is only 6 VeriBit users worldwide), the FIAT feature could be useful for a few people but nothing is innovative nor exciting in the FIAT feature, but a decentralized market place or exchange could be a game changer. Please focus on that and try to roll out at least a basic app that implements decentralized features. As you know there are incredible capable and smart people working on decentralized apps, Ethereum, Skycoin, even ViaCoin with the Counterparty inegration, etc., so the competition is fierce, that's why would be important that the Devs try to release at least a very basic but working decentralized app as soon as it is possible. As you know better than I do you compete with very smart guys like Dr. Wood from Ethereum http://www.gavwood.com/Paper.pdf , but if you have something that works (even if it is a very basic app) you can be the winner in this race.
There are many people like myself who invested a lot into VeriCoin, we are not overly worry about short term price changes and willing to invest lot more if things are going in the right direction. Please implement the decentralized feature and I guaranty you many more investment will come not from pumpers but from real investors.
Right now people are upset, but 50-100% price swing happens all the time even with real business operation. In the place Russia where I have been dealing/trading/funding IT, telecom and software companies I had experienced with a few 3000% price drop in the last 25 years, there were dead bodies all over the offices, so this is a very calm environment compared to that one, here is even the crypto-history maker scummer pumper WizRig is alive, so nothing dramatic happened here. Price drops are part of the business, even bitcoin has gone through several swing. Again, the hard work from the devs will take care of the price and the future of the coin still very bright.
Which is very encouraging to me that it seems the Devs are finally working on what really matters, the decentralized app feature. No one cares about VeriBit (why would anyone want it when we can pay with bitcoin, no wonder there is only 6 VeriBit users worldwide), the FIAT feature could be useful for a few people but nothing is innovative nor exciting in the FIAT feature, but a decentralized market place or exchange could be a game changer. Please focus on that and try to roll out at least a basic app that implements decentralized features. As you know there are incredible capable and smart people working on decentralized apps, Ethereum, Skycoin, even ViaCoin with the Counterparty inegration, etc., so the competition is fierce, that's why would be important that the Devs try to release at least a very basic but working decentralized app as soon as it is possible. As you know better than I do you compete with very smart guys like Dr. Wood from Ethereum http://www.gavwood.com/Paper.pdf , but if you have something that works (even if it is a very basic app) you can be the winner in this race.
There are many people like myself who invested a lot into VeriCoin, we are not overly worry about short term price changes and willing to invest lot more if things are going in the right direction. Please implement the decentralized feature and I guaranty you many more investment will come not from pumpers but from real investors.
That is a terrible mistake for nothing can lose more than 100%. That's tops.
You would understand that reading your post after that would be a waste of time, wouldn't you?
Agreed, but he made a point and everyone got it, pitty you are being either too dumb or too troll to stop reading past that point, he just made some really interesting points about minimum viable product and customer development in that and some recent posts. I think you are too "smart" to realize how dumb you are/seem sometimes, take it as you will.
If everyone "got it", what does it matter if I did or didn't.
Don't worry, I take your post for what it is: Inane stupidity. Pure and simple. Anything else to discuss?
Or what do you expect after posting what you chose to post, a bunch of flowers?
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