Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 409. (Read 1356147 times)

Sorry-- probably got lost in the many channels we have. Please email me at [email protected] and let's talk!

         As can be seen in the graphics market: Crypts and Bittrex, the volumes Vericon exchanged are much lower. We're talking about fluctuations correspond to 5 to 10 k units (recently in the last hours well below 0.5 and 0.2 k). which does not impose the final value. What actually is happening is somewhat speculative. Only those who suffer from anxiety are willing to sacrifice investment capital, because they conceived the idea of ​​loss of profit, they are the ones who are experiencing the loss.

    The worst  tragedy is that most of them end up losing in the famous pumps are arranged.


1 -) Be patient.
2 -) Try to encourage investment.
3 -) Promote safe  house exchanges.
4 -) The most important add value to vericoin, How? "Promote it's advantages in forums, shopping centers and other entities.

Today 1 Vericon = 20 cents, Tomorrow who knows?


Graph:

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/209

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-VRC

I actually would like to volunteer! I have contacted you by e-mail, in IRC channels and now on bitcointalk.org =p

And I honestly don't think there is a better coin out there! Which is again why I put all my money behind this coin, reached out to you to help and have been on this chat forum and IRC channels almost 24/7 for the last 5 weeks.

pnosker.  I know you don't see it as a priority.  But knock out the best decentralized anon solution that works and Vericoin will become the most demanded coin.  People already see Vericoin as making inroads into easier public adoption, but the current market truly rewards those developers who are serious about user privacy and are committed to developing features that provide true decentralized anonymity.  Especially with New York's incorrect move to create the bit license, user privacy is even more important to implement the best and correctly.

TLDR:  Make a fully decentralized anonymous coin infrastructure that allows for adding a decentralized exchange/classifieds/craigslist type service on top of it and THIS COIN WILL DESTROY ALL COMERS.

The coin has got as far it can get with 3 devs working. Time to expand the core group and the regional initiative is a way to engage real people for real meaningful work.

Problem is you can't convince anyone to buy a VeriCoin right now, and with good reason. Look at how organized we are. Did you know we have a community manager? I didn't. That is one of the most important keys to success, is a well organized community. We need the community to grow the coin, thousands of people working together, using peoples strengths can be such a powerful tool. Yet the only thing people care about in VeriCoin chat is posting moon pictures and saying "its just a a dip!" tomorrow 500k!

I agree we need to build things, and work harder. But with money just pouring out of the coin, a lack of organization, and to boot some of the worst luck in crypto with the mintpal hack... We are doomed without a proper plan of action. I thought it was a chance for us to seperate and bring in all sorts of people. All the mintpal hack did was lose us the core crypto nerds, and gain us no outsiders. We could have made the mintpal hack the best or worst thing to happen to a coin. We are letting ourselves be the victim. Seperation in crypto is big, and we had a chance to do it. And we are failing. Now we are just another crypto in peoples eyes with massive baggage. I for one will fight for this coin, but if its not worth fighting for, then I will move on and wish you all luck.

Build it (the infrastructure) and they will come (customers, investors)

1. We need to get off this forum...its tooooo Toxic. We can easily close this forum and have a link to vericointalk forum

2. We need a dedicated News Site, with updates and developments once a week

3. We need to separate ourselves from the rest of pack of shit/scam coins

If there was no rollback when it was so easily do-able it'd be a gigantic blow to all cryptocurrency in general even bitcoin, in regards to fueling the critics in the media.

So here is my question, and it means everything to people's current investment.

Is their any plans to improve PR and or marketing? Not a "it's coming soon" But a real plan? If this is as good as it gets. I think 23k is a great price to get out and save a couple bucks.

You cannot go mainstream without a plan. Simply saying you to want to be mainstream, and making products with no demand, and very little attempt to create it looks.. well bad. I would be more than happy to do anything I can, but the lack of organization for such efforts is crazy.

And that reference is absurd Patrick for EVEN if the community were willing to pony up $32,000, YOU should not allow the hiring of a PR Agency because, precisely, you have witnessed the idiocy -among other things- that hiring one was for BC. YOU, the leader of VRC, should say precisely that VRC will NOT hire a PR company because you have the example by which it does not work and it is a waste of money. And you should defend your (roll back) decision, not defend those who very harshly criticized it stating the "they have a reason to be critical". If they do, you should have not made the decision to roll back. You can please some of the people all the time but you cannot please all the people all the time.

And focusing your comments on what cannot be done -let alone shouldn't be done- is not proactive nor serves any practical purpose. Marching forward, proactively, does. And by that I mean doing what can be done. You are bright enough to see that, you just don't want to face the music that goes with it and arrogantly defend positions that perhaps are just irrelevant now. That will not be marching forward. Ever.

I'm not sure if you two realize this, but I used the example of BC because they are the only altcoin with a PR Agency representing them... Not because we're trying to compare to them. altcoinUK stated that we "couldn't even manage to hire a PR firm." I'm saying, "show us the money" and we'll hire one. An approximate cost is $32,000. So, if someone wants to send us $32,000 we can hire one. Not saying anything about BC besides the fact that they have a PR firm and it's almost useless for them.

I bought vericoin as a long term investment, why you here is your just in for quick profits?.

Again the mention of BC, a dying coin with a history of fraud and corrupt to the core. Why Patrick?

The hiring of the Borgess Agency is one of the most laughed off decisions ever happening in crypto. Everyone knows by now that moriture13/doghnip, an employee of the Borgess Agency and visible lead of The Black Hand, was behind and subsidizing it in part. Why even mention that here?

The need, even though you probably won't recognize it, is there as I have stated before. But hiring a PR agency is NOT the answer. Associating with Joel Bosch, a tainted individual, also Black Hand, was not wise even if it was somehow inevitable. Distancing from him IS indeed wise. as is distancing from Will, no matter how much of a good friend he might be. And finding someone who, first, cares for the image of VRC and, more importantly, KNOWS how to preserve that image. It may cost. Or he may be freely available. Have you tried to find him? Or you just believe you are perfectly capable of doing it? Because you aren't, sorry.

See what happens when you guys support a rollback. You're down over 33% and drowning slowly.

Let's get the regional leaders group, which is a great idea, set up and good to go.

A great place to start branding ourselves, would be to STOP comparing it to freeking blackcoin all the time. I am sick of hearing how we are like ANY other coin in ANY regard. If we want to innovate a new frontier, PLEASE, for the love of god stop talking about BLACKCOIN!

And you hit several nails straight on the head. What did you expect though? these are two full time students (of totally unrelated to business and marketing matters, mind you) and a young programmer working for Microsoft full time. You expected them to be marketing geniuses? Professional business men?

You are right regarding Socal and Wiz/ Joel Bosch. The former, handsome as he is, is probably the less suitable individual on planet Earth to be doing anything publicly for VRC... no matter how restrained he must have become of late. We all know what's underneath. And it is not good for VRC. As for Bosch, he's tainted by his crypto history and his affiliation with The Black Hand. And, generally, with bullshit. Not a good association at all. But, in truth, nothing that the devs could do anything about.

As for Patrick Nokster, he is not suitable for PR either. Not at all. He has the logical arrogance of youth and his inexperience and will to be nice to everyone but their own, everyone that he considers of importance for him, is simply impossible to balance with running, de facto, a $6 million enterprise. He says many inappropriate things. Many. But, like I said, it is understandable given the circumstances (him being the frontman and having to do interviews for which he has not been adequately prepared previously).

So those holes I mentioned above, are, among other things, a press/pr liason and general social media coordinator who would be the one making official statements on behalf of VRC. A financial advisor who would set the route, financially, that VRC must follow, along with the technical roadmap. And projects with project leaders (maybe the Regional leaders initiative?) that the community will finance and support. You expect all of that, in 2 months, from two full time students full of youth and arrogance and a Microsoft full-time employee? Well, then you are going to be disappointed, sorry.

But, first things first: VRC is pretending, so far, to be all solutions to all things. Which cannot be. It has to DEFINITE what it is, first and, way more importantly, set the CLEAR path to follow. We cannot pretend the rollback did not happen. If we pretend to remain a purist crypto coin that will allow thieves to get away with robbery and fraud, like every other crypto seems to be, it will be not credible and confusing; if we, on the other hand, state, clearly that yes, we welcome regulation, yes we will do anything possible when circumstances warrant to avoid the investors getting hurt and the thieves left to dry, then we are talking to an audience. And gaining their trust and support. Maybe it isn't the core crypto purists, but it will be, I bet, a much bigger one, much closer to the mainstream. What we cannot pretend is to play in the two teams at once. It doesn't work that way. And that's the game Patrick Nokster has been playing since the rollback happened. Is that one of the reasons for this price debacle? No one knows. What everyone DOES know though is that you are either in one team or the other and, for now at least, VRC is in some unsustainable zone right in the middle not knowing what way to go and, actually, not wanting to go either but longing to go back, rather that MARCHING forward.

Let's remember VRC has been through alot and has alot of FUD around it, Vericoin is the only coin that is accepted anywhere BTC is accepted. Saying that to someone while handing them a VRC wallet is enough to make them believe they have something valuable in their possession.

Everyone new I talk to seems to have heard something about BTC but knows nothing about the huge alt coin community underneath it.

I believe in VRC and want to help, I am interested in the idea of not just paper wallets but "promo wallets". Making wallets that give people an incentive to use them, ads promotions to products and such.

That's the problem. VeriCoin is NOT an equity. VeriCoin is a currency. As long as people expect VeriCoin and it's developers to treat it as an equity, they will be disappointed. As an equity, all crypto is doomed to failure. As currency, however, the story is different.

The goal, from the very beginning, was to create a widely accepted currency that is superior to what is currently available (fiat, bitcoin, etc...). The VeriCoin developers have been true to that goal and the coin is progressing well.

I know that some people have lost money because they bought high and are seeing the price decline. I sympathize with that. I too know what it is like to lose money in crypto, but it's foolish to buy crypto when you really want an equity. If you want to invest in equities, open an account with Ameritrade, but if you want to invest in what many (including myself) believe is the future, You're at the right place.