Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 459. (Read 1356146 times)

Since you are so giving, willing to lose all, and as you put it, Please give away all your holding, Not just VRC to a faucet, or let us have your keys..since after all, you don't mind.    let's us see how really dedicated and willing you are. go on now ~  

My Mac Wallet doesn't sync, is there a list of nodes or is this a other know issue?

Cannot find a list on the OP or the website...

They said NO, NEVER. You are missing this point. Its the public perception. Those people who have been on the sidelines, and that will now come into crypto viewing vericoin as a safe investment, one that will protect money. As upposed to the headline of gox that made most people think bitcoin was unsafe.

 Think about the headlines of GOX. Now, think about the headlines of MP, and not from your view, from a random joes view. They dont care about centralization, most have never heard what it is, They see the big picture, THEFT IS PREVENTED. Where as typical protocol before this event, and to some community still is to let thieves go in the name of decentralization? These people hold bitcoin back from practical uses.

So are you saying that VRC will protect me again from theft and rollback the blockchain if needed?

The devs on the hangout couldn't have explained it better.

VRC will come out of this a lot stronger then it was before.

Basically there was one vulnerability in vrc that had nothing to do with vrc and it hit.  Not due to vrc itself but solely to do with a 3rd party and bad habits of crypto users and how they store coins.

Again, going forward, vrc will come out stronger with greater support from people who hadn't previously heard of vrc and never would have.  In a seedy crypto world vrc is probably the one success story for the small investors that have been constantly beaten up over and over.

This hack was probably one of the best things to happen to vrc and at a perfect time. Had this happened when vrc was more mature it would have been a lot more damaging. The few bad habits of the crypto community and exchanges will be a lot better in the future and we already are seeing that with the amount of coins staking!  I also highly doubt mintpal will ever keep a irresponsible amount of coins in any hot wallet again.  Better yet in regards to vrc, with the amount of coins staking in personal wallets, the community is saying we will not give an exchange the chance to.

Why does it say not staking because you don't have mature coins?


when I have spendable coins in my wallet

Your opinion has worked out well for bitcoin so far. 8 billion dolllar market cap in 4 years. With how potent this technology is, it could be in the TRILLIONS by now if civilized people would accept it.

The fact of the matter is theft is uncivilized. Theft is what took bitcoin off most civilized peoples investment radar. In the coming months and years more civilized investors will come to a choice. Do I invest in Bitcoin / every other crypto and (allow theft) Or do I invest in vericoin (protects theft) You tell me what civilized people would say.


This simple differentiating factor will be what brings VeriCoin to the top of the "alt" scene, and then past BITCOIN in my opinion. Because lets face it, those people championing bitcoin, are not the same people who have the ability to bring the technology mainstream.

So I was not allowed to own VRC too? Or have an opinion?

I had only some 3200 VRC on MP so I can understand that the greed would probably blind me too if I had, lets say 500k.

lol

Don't mind him, look at his sig, he's one of those blackcoin aspies.

I had VRC on mintpal, but I would rather have lost my coins  Really

Yes let's lose all our coins. Whatever you are holding now, let's see how you feel when it is your ass that is hanging out in the wind. Give me a break ! A crime was committed you would rather let someone get away with all your earning & hard work. Not just only you by the way, all other investors will be screwed too. Not to mention a Major exchange would tank too.

I don't know what fantasy world you live in, this won't happen. How much are you willing to lose in the name of this belief ? 1 coin, 1000, 10000 ?  

it is so easy to judge someone who acted to protect his property.  Does a man not have the right to protect himself ?  Whomever stole these coins, did not do this for profit. this was sabotage. aka dirty tactic to cripple a promising coin.

I agree with you, Mintpal and all other exchanges need to be more transparent. They have been less coming with info on what they will do to prevent this.

if crypto is to move into mainstream, there will have to be security measures in place. Exchanges need to provide proof that cold storage is in place. Set a % on how many coins they all can hold at any given point.  

The real lesson to learn from this. Do not leave your coins overnight on ANY exchanges.. period.

A detail that few have discussed is the fact that the hackers didn't even try to make money out of the stolen coins. They targeted solely Vericoin @ MP and they were clearly trying to destroy the coin.

Why and when did Vericoin become target of the crypto-criminals?

Why so many crypto-angered-fanatics are coming here to bash the devs who took a stance in favor of the people?

I guess Vericoin's success has angered these people and the more they attack the coin, the stronger it becomes. They had a great shot at MP but, you know what, it was simply not enough.

I agree this is the biggest theft after gox.  This can't be ignored.
The is evolution of crypto ist like the evolution of fiat but on steroids and at this moment we surpassed with vericoin the wildwest where  time of Bankrobber was and will lead the world into the new golden 20s

<@MintPal-Jason> We're working on a few things internally before we look to re-add VRC. No ETA yet

Indeed, and to top it off, its a better way of doing thing, People who pick up a newspaper, or read a financial blog are going to hear how the first time in history crypto technology provided a way to prevent theft and return money.

What I don't understand is where is the anger toward the hacker? Why is nobody as outraged as I am that it seems nobody is going to attempt to find this guy?

It would be a great idea if mintpal hired a team to investigate this with every resource they have. They owe the crypto community to cause trouble for this hacker, and subsequent hacker attempts. If this entity, that tried to steal money goes unpunished, it will encourage future thieves from trying the same thing against other coins, on other exchanges.

Vericoin will be the best  known alt coin after litecoin.  Free publicity is always good

Vericoin investors have become the most paranoid of the bunch. And because of that, no other alt coin is as safely away from these exchanges, and therefore as decentralized in containment.

Because of this incident, Vericoin has become stronger than ever. The typical ironies of the crypto world.

For all those thinking this would kill crypto, and vericoin.

I got news for ya, The wallet count is up 10% + since the hack. (meaning people are preferring personal storage over exchanges.

Also, distribution of coins has now started to improve dramaticly.


before hack we had 120,000 coins roughly outside of the top 1,000 wallets.

todays numbers are 316,000 vericoins held outside of the top 1,000 wallets. And mintpal is still getting people funds that they are transfering to wallets, or in some cases to other exchanges to sell.


VeriCoin will be more secure, and will have seperated itself from the pack.

Going forward everyone has the right where to put there money. You have 2 choices now.



1. Invest in ANY other coin on the market that will not change the "law of satoshi" and continue the way things are going.

2. Invest in Vericoin who is trying to bring harmony to centralized / decentralized world.

I am going to take my chances with the coin that is seperating itself toward real world adoption. Not the current trend in crypto which is anon. Which no doubt drives crypto further underground. I chose to be a part of a project to go more mainstream.


Right now the bitcoin + alt market is lets say 8-9 billion okay. It has been as high as a little over 10 billion. This has taken 4 years of satoshi's mindset to gather a networth of 8 billion. With all the benefits we know bitcoin has, how come only this much money has invested in bitcoin? Think about it. WHY is 10 billion a large market? Its not. Now lets compare that to 1 company making electronics. Bitcoin is still 1/50th the size of a single company. Yet we trust bitcoin has the power to change the world. Why has it not yet? WHY, ask yourself that question. A new paradigm is coming. Vericoin will lead crypto currency into the masses with its sensible appeal to real people.

So..... where did the 1,096 coins go.  Did I lose them