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thrasher.
For a guy who claimed to be paid $75/hour, he doesn't sound too professional about it.  Sounds more like whining for attention.  So I wouldn't pay no mind to his claims.


-tb-

I actually get paid more than 75 an hour when I do security consulting, and why do I have to act professional with someone who is not paying me, lying to me, building closed source projects off open source roots to make money and has a community of greedy idiots who try to deflect any claims that there are issues.
sr. member
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thrasher.
Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).

Talking to you like you're stupid? When did that happen? What I see are developers trying to engage with you directly. Didn't pnosker thank you, and give you a bug bounty already? What more do you want? An ego massage?

As in directly lying to me when it is easy to disprove his claims. He seems to think if he lies to me that I will just believe it and not try to confirm myself, which I did and realized what he was claiming was untrue. This is not about ego this is about having a straightforward discussion without deception.

I really don't think anyone is intentionally trying to deceive you. And it appears to be about ego when you say dipshit things like "You really shouldn't talk to me like I'm stupid" - when that was evidently not the case. Perhaps VericoinDev3 misunderstood and a different IP was banned? Who fucking knows? But before you go on any more of these fucking tirades at least give the man a chance to respond.

You are ignoring the several other claims that are clearly untrue, he is treating me like I'm stupid because he assumes I can't easily check the claims and find out they are false. He talked about features in the software that simply do not exist to downplay the damage that could have been caused by a script like the one I shared.



What are you talking about? We saw a flood of over 2000 requests starting from 2 min after your first exploit post. Your IP was banned by the software from processing any trades. So no, I didn't lie about anything. Did you try to trade at all?

And reducing the exploit time window is not just a patch. It is effective because it is unnecessary due to the way the wallet sends the transaction quickly. We could probably use better flood detection but you're simply DoSing at that point. Anyway, I'll say it again: if you were truly concerned, you would talk privately about this like any legitimate security researcher rather than publicly disclaiming the code and suspecting it of failing. VeriBit has not lost any loaned money and has not kept any sent money without paying out.

Thanks again for the criticism. We take it seriously but it is unfounded.

I offered to talk about it privately but you never private messaged me.

Also, I'm used of discussing issues publicly because the Bitcoin community is traditionally an open source community where we have open discussion about issues. We are all about transparency in the open source world.

 I have not tried to steal from veribit, I could have drained the fund by now and done this all in silence and you would have never noticed.

I'm taking time out of my other projects to come here and let you know about your security issues and you continue to downplay them and make up claims about your service. Should it be that easy to DoS your service with a 3 line script? There are definitely engineering solutions for that.
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freecrypto.top
For a guy who claimed to be paid $75/hour, he doesn't sound too professional about it.  Sounds more like whining for attention.  So I wouldn't pay no mind to his claims.


-tb-

A lot of people want to "help" the community, especially VeriCoin lately, by openly making slanderous claims, that they cannot even substantiate. Things must be going well. You only get attacked when your on top.
legendary
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Point. Click. Blockchain
For a guy who claimed to be paid $75/hour, he doesn't sound too professional about it.  Sounds more like whining for attention.  So I wouldn't pay no mind to his claims.


-tb-
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Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).

Talking to you like you're stupid? When did that happen? What I see are developers trying to engage with you directly. Didn't pnosker thank you, and give you a bug bounty already? What more do you want? An ego massage?

As in directly lying to me when it is easy to disprove his claims. He seems to think if he lies to me that I will just believe it and not try to confirm myself, which I did and realized what he was claiming was untrue. This is not about ego this is about having a straightforward discussion without deception.

I really don't think anyone is intentionally trying to deceive you. And it appears to be about ego when you say dipshit things like "You really shouldn't talk to me like I'm stupid" - when that was evidently not the case. Perhaps VericoinDev3 misunderstood and a different IP was banned? Who fucking knows? But before you go on any more of these fucking tirades at least give the man a chance to respond.

You are ignoring the several other claims that are clearly untrue, he is treating me like I'm stupid because he assumes I can't easily check the claims and find out they are false. He talked about features in the software that simply do not exist to downplay the damage that could have been caused by a script like the one I shared.



What are you talking about? We saw a flood of over 2000 requests starting from 2 min after your first exploit post. Your IP was banned by the software from processing any trades. So no, I didn't lie about anything. Did you try to trade at all?

And reducing the exploit time window is not just a patch. It is effective because it is unnecessary due to the way the wallet sends the transaction quickly. We could probably use better flood detection but you're simply DoSing at that point. Anyway, I'll say it again: if you were truly concerned, you would talk privately about this like any legitimate security researcher rather than publicly disclaiming the code and suspecting it of failing. VeriBit has not lost any loaned money and has not kept any sent money without paying out.

Thanks again for the criticism. We take it seriously but it is unfounded.
sr. member
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thrasher.
Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).

Talking to you like you're stupid? When did that happen? What I see are developers trying to engage with you directly. Didn't pnosker thank you, and give you a bug bounty already? What more do you want? An ego massage?

As in directly lying to me when it is easy to disprove his claims. He seems to think if he lies to me that I will just believe it and not try to confirm myself, which I did and realized what he was claiming was untrue. This is not about ego this is about having a straightforward discussion without deception.

I really don't think anyone is intentionally trying to deceive you. And it appears to be about ego when you say dipshit things like "You really shouldn't talk to me like I'm stupid" - when that was evidently not the case. Perhaps VericoinDev3 misunderstood and a different IP was banned? Who fucking knows? But before you go on any more of these fucking tirades at least give the man a chance to respond.

You are ignoring the several other claims that are clearly untrue, he is treating me like I'm stupid because he assumes I can't easily check the claims and find out they are false. He talked about features in the software that simply do not exist to downplay the damage that could have been caused by a script like the one I shared.

sr. member
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Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).

Talking to you like you're stupid? When did that happen? What I see are developers trying to engage with you directly. Didn't pnosker thank you, and give you a bug bounty already? What more do you want? An ego massage?

As in directly lying to me when it is easy to disprove his claims. He seems to think if he lies to me that I will just believe it and not try to confirm myself, which I did and realized what he was claiming was untrue. This is not about ego this is about having a straightforward discussion without deception.

I really don't think anyone is intentionally trying to deceive you. And it appears to be about ego when you say dipshit things like "You really shouldn't talk to me like I'm stupid" - when that was evidently not the case. Perhaps VericoinDev3 misunderstood and a different IP was banned? Who fucking knows? But before you go on any more of these fucking tirades at least give the man a chance to respond.
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freecrypto.top
Another beautiful morning. Beta testing going on today for FIAT is exciting.

It will open up investing in crypto / bitcoin to a whole new group of people. The gateway to get VeriCoin / BitCoin can now be a credit card. Like.. Are people missing this?

This is the holy grail of crypto investing. You find a coin that is going to make a difference. Here today you find a coin, VeriCoin. Like bitcoin of years ago, but better, more accessible, with less inflation and a a lot more features.

Now, can someone tell me, other than jelously or loyalty to a coin.... Now that we have VeriCoin and all it offers, WHY do you need ANY other alt?

I can't think of a reason.


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thrasher.
Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).

Talking to you like you're stupid? When did that happen? What I see are developers trying to engage with you directly. Didn't pnosker thank you, and give you a bug bounty already? What more do you want? An ego massage?

As in directly lying to me when it is easy to disprove his claims. He seems to think if he lies to me that I will just believe it and not try to confirm myself, which I did and realized what he was claiming was untrue. This is not about ego this is about having a straightforward discussion without deception.
sr. member
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Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).

Talking to you like you're stupid? When did that happen? What I see are developers trying to engage with you directly. Didn't pnosker thank you, and give you a bug bounty already? What more do you want? An ego massage?
sr. member
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thrasher.
Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being silicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.

Lol, took 1 second to find the new URL on github: http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc

There goes the idea you closed down webservices. http://verisend.vericoin.info/apisendbtc?sendto=1NsqLEmk7bckyxocJToBYmgkte2j5KMGZp&amount=1

You really shouldn't keep talking to me like I'm stupid, your system clearly doesn't automatically ban IP addresses, you didn't ban mine. There is also no automatic price adjustment as you claimed before (which would have been clever if it were real, but also easy to exploit as well).
sr. member
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thrasher.
Pretty sure I was able to crash veribit with a few lines of code. I'll stop once I prove it works.

No your IP just got auto banned for flooding. That and we deactivated the web service.

You may have done this afterwards, but I was seeing a wall of errors before that was done. Continuing to downplay what I'm finding and pretending it is not real is less healthy for your service than admitting it and working with me to fix these issues, right now you are just putting band-aids on them. I'm not being malicious, I'm giving you essentially free pen-testing (because I work for more than 75 an hour normally too).

Pretty sure I could bypass your IP flood and deconstruct the API from your wallet code.
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I do not belong to any group, thats the last time i will say it. The people in question still have me twitter username there because they forgot to remove it. I even have the blkhandgroup blocked on my twitter account, end of story. This is the last time  i am posting on this subject.

On a positive note, i have been looking for ways to help promote Vericoin (thats what i do dibdab, i do not waste my time looking for fud to spread)

Do people know about fiverr.com ?   I am sure you all do, where entrepreneurial people go to sell services for just $5 !

And guess what, fiverr accepts bitcoins ! Which mean you can use your Vericoins to pay for any services on fiverr to help promote the coin!

http://blog.fiverr.com/fiverr-now-accepting-bitcoins

If you are a investor and supporter of this fantastic coin, then take a look at fiverr and see what you can do to help Vericoin today  Smiley


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One Token to Move Anything Anywhere

Apologies if my links and research came out as FUD. Anyway imho it is important to get the info on these groups out to the general public

Yes but in the very first Google Hangout I watched Joel addressed the accusations very openly and directly.

People invest to make money. Joel is now putting in a lot of effort to launch the coin with several marketing campaigns, which is totally normal.
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aka. dibdab
Smart investors make money and do not listen to fud.

Fudders are dead beat losers who still hang onto dead coins.



Apologies if my links and research came out as FUD. Anyway imho it is important to get the info on these groups out to the general public before they will get burned.

These groups are in it for profits, and who are they scraping their profits from? Well anyone can do that math.

So I say, rather burn a small group of manipulators than the whole community
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it has been a pattern i noticed.. much dumping starts around this time.. 1AM til 4AM (GMT-7)


This is normal market movement.

By the end of the day 0.0005 will naturally become the new bottom.
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Smart investors make money and do not listen to fud.

Fudders are dead beat losers who still hang onto dead coins.

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it has been a pattern i noticed.. much dumping starts around this time.. 1AM til 4AM (GMT-7)
hero member
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I am thinking about steppin on the train, but I have some doubt:

- is this thread moderated? FUDsters can be killing, but transparancy is the key.
- exactly how many dev's are working on this, and what is there reserved time for this project?  Some people say: "Full time", but that's something I simply can hardly believe.  Please be honest and transparant, like NEM for instance.  Smiley
- I have noticed that the Vericoin.info website is down, what is the reason of this?
- Is there a maximum coincap? Or is this ammount "dynamicly" increasing with the POS.

thanks,
boestin

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3 devs working on the core with others working on linked projects
check the site for info on the dynamic interest
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