So many fake and useless tokens @ the counterparty. It is time to restrict the unchecked assets issuing or to improve the issuing cost.
It's a decentralized protocol, nobody can restrict anyone else from accessing it, issuing assets, etc.
Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 157. (Read 1276789 times)
November 16, 2014, 12:31:03 PM
It's a decentralized protocol, nobody can restrict anyone else from accessing it, issuing assets, etc.
November 16, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Asset names are like stock symbols, you don't need an exact match to the name of your project. There will be entire businesses built around asset and issuer reputation.
November 16, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
So many fake and useless tokens @ the counterparty. It is time to restrict the unchecked assets issuing or to improve the issuing cost.
November 16, 2014, 10:42:25 AM
There are more than 5600 assets on the Counterparty(http://blockscan.com/asset). With the application and the value of Counterparty increasing(especially the Medici project carried out by Overstock and Counterparty team), I am confident about that those tokens issued on Counterparty will have blooming prospect.
Here is the purposes of this topic:
1) Create and active the assets tokens market for Counterparty, like the Domain Name trading for Internet;
2) Provide buying/selling info of the assets tokens;
3) Expose those fake assets tokens.
Here is the purposes of this topic:
1) Create and active the assets tokens market for Counterparty, like the Domain Name trading for Internet;
2) Provide buying/selling info of the assets tokens;
3) Expose those fake assets tokens.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--85916
a friend had accidentally sent some xcp to a fake maidsafe asset, I found it was issued by this user, https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hill-166456
careful not to buy that
November 16, 2014, 06:17:46 AM
I would like to announce a 15 XCP Bounty for completing the German translation of Counterwallet, and another 15 XCP for the Finnish translation!
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/counterwallet/
I know it's not much, but I hope it can provide at least some motivation to contribute to open-source.
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/counterwallet/
I know it's not much, but I hope it can provide at least some motivation to contribute to open-source.
November 16, 2014, 05:48:32 AM
There are more than 5600 assets on the Counterparty(http://blockscan.com/asset). With the application and the value of Counterparty increasing(especially the Medici project carried out by Overstock and Counterparty team), I am confident about that those tokens issued on Counterparty will have blooming prospect.
Here is the purposes of this topic:
1) Create and active the assets tokens market for Counterparty, like the Domain Name trading for Internet;
2) Provide buying/selling info of the assets tokens;
3) Expose those fake assets tokens.
Here is the purposes of this topic:
1) Create and active the assets tokens market for Counterparty, like the Domain Name trading for Internet;
2) Provide buying/selling info of the assets tokens;
3) Expose those fake assets tokens.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trade-for-assets-tokens-issued-on-counterparty-859163
November 15, 2014, 06:26:20 PM
how's the gui wallet development coming along? Something that is somewhat of a plugin for the standard bitcoin wallet would be super! similar to how namecoin and others took the bitcoin wallet and modified it to their needs.
how many dictionary words does the webwallet choose your password from?
Please provide links/references if possible,
thanks!
how many dictionary words does the webwallet choose your password from?
Please provide links/references if possible,
thanks!
A Counterparty plugin for Armory would be a dream come true.
November 15, 2014, 05:20:58 PM
how many dictionary words does the webwallet choose your password from?
1626
https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwebdeps/blob/master/js/external/mnemonic.js#L81
November 15, 2014, 04:06:47 PM
how's the gui wallet development coming along? Something that is somewhat of a plugin for the standard bitcoin wallet would be super! similar to how namecoin and others took the bitcoin wallet and modified it to their needs.
how many dictionary words does the webwallet choose your password from?
Please provide links/references if possible,
thanks!
how many dictionary words does the webwallet choose your password from?
Please provide links/references if possible,
thanks!
November 15, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
In talking about potential competition coming in, stealing ideas or code or coming out with similar products or even other competitors who may or may not have products with faster block times (like clearinghouse) I have only this to say:
A lot of my professional experience has been in business and marketing (business to business and corporate), in that world you come to learn some important facts very fast, namely it doesn't matter if your competitors have slightly better products or even slightly better deals. It comes down at the end of the day to how like-able you are. Assuming 5 people show up trying to sell a product, and all products are similar (even if 1 or 2 are slightly better or worse), the real determining factor in success will simply be if those who are pitching their product come off as better prepared, more understanding of peripheral technologies and companies within their sector and are people who the buyers of the product will get along with more and can imagine doing future business with rather than which product is "technically" a bit better.
I use that example to bring up something Patrick Byrne said about his choice on choosing Counterparty devs for Medici over the other projects which brought similar products (which may have been potentially slightly better or worse technically). His specific reason was that of all those in the 2.0 space offering cryptographic asset platforms, Counterparty devs had similar philosophy as Patrick, similar drive, and he felt he could get along with them more and thus instantly saw a future of doing business with them.
This level of preparedness in the Bitcoin space as well as their ability to make sound and quick judgement calls that get shit done the right way the "FIRST" time is not something you can find easily even if you were to look at other platforms with similar technology...Also keep in mind that there are plenty of genius people who can spend years innovating, but you can't just look at the crypto-coin space from a computer science perspective, you also have to look at it from a business perspective, WHO will be the first to bring real and usable products to market?
This is why I have full faith that Counterparty will reign supreme in this 2.0 space, they have all the tools not just technically but also mentally and spiritually that will be needed to be the global leader in providing cryptographic asset creation and now smart contracts as well
A lot of my professional experience has been in business and marketing (business to business and corporate), in that world you come to learn some important facts very fast, namely it doesn't matter if your competitors have slightly better products or even slightly better deals. It comes down at the end of the day to how like-able you are. Assuming 5 people show up trying to sell a product, and all products are similar (even if 1 or 2 are slightly better or worse), the real determining factor in success will simply be if those who are pitching their product come off as better prepared, more understanding of peripheral technologies and companies within their sector and are people who the buyers of the product will get along with more and can imagine doing future business with rather than which product is "technically" a bit better.
I use that example to bring up something Patrick Byrne said about his choice on choosing Counterparty devs for Medici over the other projects which brought similar products (which may have been potentially slightly better or worse technically). His specific reason was that of all those in the 2.0 space offering cryptographic asset platforms, Counterparty devs had similar philosophy as Patrick, similar drive, and he felt he could get along with them more and thus instantly saw a future of doing business with them.
This level of preparedness in the Bitcoin space as well as their ability to make sound and quick judgement calls that get shit done the right way the "FIRST" time is not something you can find easily even if you were to look at other platforms with similar technology...Also keep in mind that there are plenty of genius people who can spend years innovating, but you can't just look at the crypto-coin space from a computer science perspective, you also have to look at it from a business perspective, WHO will be the first to bring real and usable products to market?
This is why I have full faith that Counterparty will reign supreme in this 2.0 space, they have all the tools not just technically but also mentally and spiritually that will be needed to be the global leader in providing cryptographic asset creation and now smart contracts as well
+100
I agree. The straightforward and non-megalomaniac approach the Counterparty Devs used in their whitepaper is what initially won me over. They seem like a group that knows how to play well with themselves and others vs. the socially impaired ego maniacs we all too often see in this space.
November 15, 2014, 02:12:10 PM
There are teams working on solutions to the block speed issue. I saw presentations nearly 10 months ago and heard of some other proposals. eventually this will be solved.
November 15, 2014, 12:37:44 PM
Bitcoin is what gives us the speed issues via its ten minute block time. It is vastly outside of the scope of the Counterparty project to try and change Bitcoin's block time.
November 15, 2014, 12:28:18 PM
Clearing House is it a good bet?
I heard that it's 30x faster than XCP
I heard that it's 30x faster than XCP
I think you can earn with XCP more in long term than buying with same BTC/$ amount Clearing House. That is only faster blocks, development slower and more bugs in wallet etc. Also no any real deals yet promised like Counterparty have Overstock.com.
Ok and is it any chance for XCP to improve his speed? I think it´s the major problem
November 15, 2014, 12:14:19 PM
In talking about potential competition coming in, stealing ideas or code or coming out with similar products or even other competitors who may or may not have products with faster block times (like clearinghouse) I have only this to say:
A lot of my professional experience has been in business and marketing (business to business and corporate), in that world you come to learn some important facts very fast, namely it doesn't matter if your competitors have slightly better products or even slightly better deals. It comes down at the end of the day to how like-able you are. Assuming 5 people show up trying to sell a product, and all products are similar (even if 1 or 2 are slightly better or worse), the real determining factor in success will simply be if those who are pitching their product come off as better prepared, more understanding of peripheral technologies and companies within their sector and are people who the buyers of the product will get along with more and can imagine doing future business with rather than which product is "technically" a bit better.
I use that example to bring up something Patrick Byrne said about his choice on choosing Counterparty devs for Medici over the other projects which brought similar products (which may have been potentially slightly better or worse technically). His specific reason was that of all those in the 2.0 space offering cryptographic asset platforms, Counterparty devs had similar philosophy as Patrick, similar drive, and he felt he could get along with them more and thus instantly saw a future of doing business with them.
This level of preparedness in the Bitcoin space as well as their ability to make sound and quick judgement calls that get shit done the right way the "FIRST" time is not something you can find easily even if you were to look at other platforms with similar technology...Also keep in mind that there are plenty of genius people who can spend years innovating, but you can't just look at the crypto-coin space from a computer science perspective, you also have to look at it from a business perspective, WHO will be the first to bring real and usable products to market?
This is why I have full faith that Counterparty will reign supreme in this 2.0 space, they have all the tools not just technically but also mentally and spiritually that will be needed to be the global leader in providing cryptographic asset creation and now smart contracts as well
A lot of my professional experience has been in business and marketing (business to business and corporate), in that world you come to learn some important facts very fast, namely it doesn't matter if your competitors have slightly better products or even slightly better deals. It comes down at the end of the day to how like-able you are. Assuming 5 people show up trying to sell a product, and all products are similar (even if 1 or 2 are slightly better or worse), the real determining factor in success will simply be if those who are pitching their product come off as better prepared, more understanding of peripheral technologies and companies within their sector and are people who the buyers of the product will get along with more and can imagine doing future business with rather than which product is "technically" a bit better.
I use that example to bring up something Patrick Byrne said about his choice on choosing Counterparty devs for Medici over the other projects which brought similar products (which may have been potentially slightly better or worse technically). His specific reason was that of all those in the 2.0 space offering cryptographic asset platforms, Counterparty devs had similar philosophy as Patrick, similar drive, and he felt he could get along with them more and thus instantly saw a future of doing business with them.
This level of preparedness in the Bitcoin space as well as their ability to make sound and quick judgement calls that get shit done the right way the "FIRST" time is not something you can find easily even if you were to look at other platforms with similar technology...Also keep in mind that there are plenty of genius people who can spend years innovating, but you can't just look at the crypto-coin space from a computer science perspective, you also have to look at it from a business perspective, WHO will be the first to bring real and usable products to market?
This is why I have full faith that Counterparty will reign supreme in this 2.0 space, they have all the tools not just technically but also mentally and spiritually that will be needed to be the global leader in providing cryptographic asset creation and now smart contracts as well
November 15, 2014, 10:40:50 AM
Clearing House is it a good bet?
I heard that it's 30x faster than XCP
I heard that it's 30x faster than XCP
I think you can earn with XCP more in long term than buying with same BTC/$ amount Clearing House. That is only faster blocks, development slower and more bugs in wallet etc. Also no any real deals yet promised like Counterparty have Overstock.com.
November 15, 2014, 08:22:42 AM
Clearing House is it a good bet?
I heard that it's 30x faster than XCP
I heard that it's 30x faster than XCP
November 15, 2014, 07:26:34 AM
My favorite quote from Robby: “if people want to sell their XCP as soon as the web wallet comes out, they should go for it. I think it's kind of like stepping over a dollar to pick up a nickel though. ” - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5693350.
it took bitcoin ~5 years to become mainstream, my guess it will take counterparty ~3 years, or maybe less at this speed. keep up the great work.
this is also a great quote: "xcp is the most undervalued "coin" in the cryptosphere - true story
because counterparty is, regarding coding, quality and intellect of the developers the reference in the complete altcoin section." - nakaone, May 11, 2014.
” - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5693350.it took bitcoin ~5 years to become mainstream, my guess it will take counterparty ~3 years, or maybe less at this speed. keep up the great work.
this is also a great quote: "xcp is the most undervalued "coin" in the cryptosphere - true story
because counterparty is, regarding coding, quality and intellect of the developers the reference in the complete altcoin section." - nakaone, May 11, 2014.
November 15, 2014, 06:43:13 AM
The team is very professionnal, there never have been leaks. Dev team won't leak and warn you before a X2 in price !
Look at Medici or Ethereum news, it was sudden, each time with the price X2.
Like many of us, I sold a few XCP @ 0.005 because of no news for weeks...
The growth is steady. There already should have been a drop in price if you use basic technical trading, so it is very likely that other big news are coming and/or demand from insider devs or Patrick Byrne's friends is very superior to offers.
Look at Medici or Ethereum news, it was sudden, each time with the price X2.
Like many of us, I sold a few XCP @ 0.005 because of no news for weeks...
The growth is steady. There already should have been a drop in price if you use basic technical trading, so it is very likely that other big news are coming and/or demand from insider devs or Patrick Byrne's friends is very superior to offers.
If you look closely (maybe the posts were deleted) PP or Xnova were talking about some good news in the coming weeks. That was after the medici announce.
On the github you can follow development and see what are the future improvements. Since XCP team has always delivered, it's more a "when" than an "if". Ofc, the ethereum clone was a surprise (a good one) and who knows, there may be other good surprises along the way.
The thing is, you can see that the development has gained some momentum. On reddit, when the crowd was shouting "not on my blockchain" 10 month ago, they've now a lot of respect for PP and xnova posts.
November 15, 2014, 06:35:04 AM
The team is very professionnal, there never have been leaks. Dev team won't leak and warn you before a X2 in price !
Look at Medici or Ethereum news, it was sudden, each time with the price X2.
Like many of us, I sold a few XCP @ 0.005 because of no news for weeks...
The growth is steady. There already should have been a drop in price if you use basic technical trading, so it is very likely that other big news are coming and/or demand from insider devs or Patrick Byrne's friends is very superior to offers.
Look at Medici or Ethereum news, it was sudden, each time with the price X2.
Like many of us, I sold a few XCP @ 0.005 because of no news for weeks...
The growth is steady. There already should have been a drop in price if you use basic technical trading, so it is very likely that other big news are coming and/or demand from insider devs or Patrick Byrne's friends is very superior to offers.
November 15, 2014, 06:14:37 AM
There is no doubt that the developers behind Counterparty are exceptionally talented and the coding may provide incredible utility for accomplishing revolutionary tasks. I was initially extremely attracted to this as a potential investment vehicle (Bryne's plans are impressive), especially since there is no mining and a cap of less than 3 million coins.
However, from an investment standpoint, I have a real problem with getting optimistic about the longer term valuations of Counterparty because 1) all of the code is open source and it can be duplicated & lacks proprietary value; 2) Bitcoin itself could end up adopting these features; 3) a big player like Google could bring yet another coin with all of these features (and much more) which could overtake the dominate role for this space; and 4) there are no guarantees that Bryne's dream of an alternate exchange will be the one that actually gets off the ground with all of the regulatory hurdles and track record of contrary political positioning that has been so unpopular with regulators and Wall St. The scum hate him with a passion. As a result, these factors pose a long term threat to the viability of this coin ever reaching significant value.
I would love to be proven wrong and, thus, provided with a good incentive to invest. But I am afraid that what Counterparty has created for the free market is somewhat similar to what pharmaceutical drug companies would be up against if they ever attempted to patent naturally occurring, unaltered herbs and healing plants as cures for diseases. There is nothing in place to protect the exclusivity or scarcity of this very impressive technology that has been released out into the wild.
However, from an investment standpoint, I have a real problem with getting optimistic about the longer term valuations of Counterparty because 1) all of the code is open source and it can be duplicated & lacks proprietary value; 2) Bitcoin itself could end up adopting these features; 3) a big player like Google could bring yet another coin with all of these features (and much more) which could overtake the dominate role for this space; and 4) there are no guarantees that Bryne's dream of an alternate exchange will be the one that actually gets off the ground with all of the regulatory hurdles and track record of contrary political positioning that has been so unpopular with regulators and Wall St. The scum hate him with a passion. As a result, these factors pose a long term threat to the viability of this coin ever reaching significant value.
I would love to be proven wrong and, thus, provided with a good incentive to invest. But I am afraid that what Counterparty has created for the free market is somewhat similar to what pharmaceutical drug companies would be up against if they ever attempted to patent naturally occurring, unaltered herbs and healing plants as cures for diseases. There is nothing in place to protect the exclusivity or scarcity of this very impressive technology that has been released out into the wild.
So far Counterpart has shown to be extremely competent in finishing off projects. I would not worry about some other coming in, copying and trumping it.
Unfinished, slow projects are a bane in this field. Its no surprise that Counterparty are doing well.
additionally I doubt that a fork will spin-off at this point of time. the competitor was msc, I think they are done. dogeparty, clearinghouse etc. lack network effects, we have to see if ether manages to network - I at least got doubts.
the only really good point is point two but as far as I understood sidechains and especially reliability of sidechains will at least take another 12-18 months. take the position of people tranferring very high amounts of money - would you trust a non bulletproof system or would you choose the more secure one?
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