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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 49. (Read 1276786 times)

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Determining whether to use XCP for gas, or an “XCPC” stake token that is periodically awarded to XCP holders by the protocol, based on their XCP holdings.

    If XCP is used, a solution to control the rate of deflation will need to be found, as unlike Ether, no additional XCP will be created. That, or XCP consumed could be frozen for some period of time, imposing an opportunity cost.
    If “XCPC” is used, the rate of generation and caps on the max number of XCPC in existence at any one time will need to be discussed and established.

--- XCPC token would be rather weird - yet another token, periodically freely airdropped to XCP owners, essentially at no cost. 
To execute a smart contract you can
1. buy some XCP,
2. get free gas (XCPC),
3. use the gas and sell your XCP.

--- Freezing instead of burning? This doesn't solve the problem. If many people freeze their XCP, it leads to the same distortion. The rate of freezing would have to be decreasing.     

--- Decrease the rate of deflation - maybe the best option? 


Re: freezing, I'm not sure the amount of XCP frozen at any one time would be material to the total amount of XCP in existence. If that is not the case, then some "scale down" coefficient can be introduced that will reduce the amount of coins frozen for a given smart contract execution as the total # of coins frozen at any one time increases. Schemes like that do add complexity, however, and I'd like to avoid them if it's not deemed totally necessary, at least for a first pass.

Freezing as a solution entirely depends on parameters. Especially time. Short term freezing is similar to XCPC solution. Long term freezing is similar to burning. Actually burning is a special case of freezing (infinity freezing).

If not really long-term, freezing basically means a near zero cost of the execution of smart contracts. Most XCP holders hold long term anyway.
First, the idea of zero cost goes against the principle of "gas". Second, XCP token would not be much useful in such a situation.
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When you make an exchange order and your coins go into escrow, how long does it take to get those funds released from escrow when you cancel the order?

some of my funds have been locked in escrow for half the day now.

Edit-  They finally cleared.  How long does it usually take?  I was guessing it would take as long as they do to confirm in the blockchain, but it wasn't even close.

Thanks in advance.
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XCP future looks promising. Is there some kind of development roadmap defined for this year? Would like to invest some to XCP for longer term after the pump/dump has settled down
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The CounterParty is just starting  Cool
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Hey all, we just released the latest updated on Counterparty Smart Contracts: https://counterparty.io/news/proposal-for-ethereum-smart-contracts-on-counterparty-mainnet/

this is big. weird that everyone is silent in this thread.

hold your XCP

XCP looking good long term investment. I think this is really like BTC 2.0 what markets adopt slowly but sure Smiley
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Hey all, we just released the latest updated on Counterparty Smart Contracts: https://counterparty.io/news/proposal-for-ethereum-smart-contracts-on-counterparty-mainnet/

this is big. weird that everyone is silent in this thread.

hold your XCP
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Counterparty Developer
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Determining whether to use XCP for gas, or an “XCPC” stake token that is periodically awarded to XCP holders by the protocol, based on their XCP holdings.

    If XCP is used, a solution to control the rate of deflation will need to be found, as unlike Ether, no additional XCP will be created. That, or XCP consumed could be frozen for some period of time, imposing an opportunity cost.
    If “XCPC” is used, the rate of generation and caps on the max number of XCPC in existence at any one time will need to be discussed and established.

--- XCPC token would be rather weird - yet another token, periodically freely airdropped to XCP owners, essentially at no cost. 
To execute a smart contract you can
1. buy some XCP,
2. get free gas (XCPC),
3. use the gas and sell your XCP.

--- Freezing instead of burning? This doesn't solve the problem. If many people freeze their XCP, it leads to the same distortion. The rate of freezing would have to be decreasing.     

--- Decrease the rate of deflation - maybe the best option? 



Re: freezing, I'm not sure the amount of XCP frozen at any one time would be material to the total amount of XCP in existence. If that is not the case, then some "scale down" coefficient can be introduced that will reduce the amount of coins frozen for a given smart contract execution as the total # of coins frozen at any one time increases. Schemes like that do add complexity, however, and I'd like to avoid them if it's not deemed totally necessary, at least for a first pass.
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Gone for a minute now back again
I would like to see Counterparty as one of the players that sticks around long term and shows up in the top 6
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Determining whether to use XCP for gas, or an “XCPC” stake token that is periodically awarded to XCP holders by the protocol, based on their XCP holdings.

    If XCP is used, a solution to control the rate of deflation will need to be found, as unlike Ether, no additional XCP will be created. That, or XCP consumed could be frozen for some period of time, imposing an opportunity cost.
    If “XCPC” is used, the rate of generation and caps on the max number of XCPC in existence at any one time will need to be discussed and established.

--- XCPC token would be rather weird - yet another token, periodically freely airdropped to XCP owners, essentially at no cost. 
To execute a smart contract you can
1. buy some XCP,
2. get free gas (XCPC),
3. use the gas and sell your XCP.

--- Freezing instead of burning? This doesn't solve the problem. If many people freeze their XCP, it leads to the same distortion. The rate of freezing would have to be decreasing.     

--- Decrease the rate of deflation - maybe the best option? 

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This is great news and when people realise the benefits of smart contracts on the Bitcoin blockchain, the price will rise.
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Hey all, we just released the latest updated on Counterparty Smart Contracts: https://counterparty.io/news/proposal-for-ethereum-smart-contracts-on-counterparty-mainnet/

this is big. weird that everyone is silent in this thread.

The uproar happened already when the rumour came into light. It seems now that it becomes reality everyone knows already about it. Or is this again just a plan?
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Check out the most recent Counterparty Update which includes development updates, ecosystem news, election results, a new Telegram chat and more!

http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-update-050916/

Thanks, a very clear read showing the project is moving forward in a positive direction. It's great to see some renewed community framework being established! Good work

For anyone who hasn't taken a look I'd also recommend reading https://www.reddit.com/r/counterparty_xcp/comments/4gpdsx/we_are_the_counterparty_foundation_community/
Some nice commentary there from guys building innovative projects on the counterparty system.
newbie
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Check out the most recent Counterparty Update which includes development updates, ecosystem news, election results, a new Telegram chat and more!

http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-update-050916/
legendary
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Good to see some investment into the ecosystem with DevParty.

Does anyone have a good grasp as to where the XCP technology is versus other alternatives to expanding Bitcoin's functionality? There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of new projects being built and I am wondering why. Is the Ethereum smart contracts wait holding up progress?
Id say they avoid to give anything specifical till they actually have it
legendary
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Good to see some investment into the ecosystem with DevParty.

Does anyone have a good grasp as to where the XCP technology is versus other alternatives to expanding Bitcoin's functionality? There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of new projects being built and I am wondering why. Is the Ethereum smart contracts wait holding up progress?
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Where in Github can see last updates about Eth VM? Can Devs give any comment about Eth VM development stage?
legendary
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i thought counterparty was dead because the main devs went to overstock.com

It's not dead.  It's in a "sleeping dragon" phase.  Be prepared for when the dragon wakes up again.
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i thought counterparty was dead because the main devs went to overstock.com
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