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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 78. (Read 1276789 times)

sr. member
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Symbiont is funding Counterparty development and they are going to be using Counterparty where the usecases are appropriate.  Doesn't really change the innate worth of the platform either. It works.
legendary
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Wow, lots of weak hands holding XCP,
legendary
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It's like we're reading two different things. Best luck to you, I don't have the will to repeat things to try to make you see what's clearly written in the update. Sell your XCP quick, I guess.

You must be really busy, I guess.
hero member
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Counterpartying
It's like we're reading two different things. Best luck to you, I don't have the will to repeat things to try to make you see what's clearly written in the update. Sell your XCP quick, I guess.
legendary
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Update: We will use Counterparty for everything it's good for, when our clients want a solution that requires something like Counterparty and regulations permit it.

Reaction: FML, it's over. Oh, and can we have more information, please, even though you just updated us.

I don't even know what to say.

Previously we thought we knew of a Counterparty project which Symbiont was working on.  Now we know that we don't.

Also your first sentence (sarcastic because that isn't new information) and your second sentence (sarcastic because we are being greedy for *more* new information) are in complete disagreement with each other.
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Counterpartying
Update: We will use Counterparty for everything it's good for, when our clients want a solution that requires something like Counterparty and regulations permit it.

Reaction: FML, it's over. Oh, and can we have more information, please, even though you just updated us.

I don't even know what to say.
legendary
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The takeaway should be that Symbiont has a lot more resources than Counterparty has alone, so we'll be working on products that are orthogonal to Counterparty *as well*. (We'll also have more resources than ever dedicated to Counterparty itself.)

Are you speaking from the perspective of Counterparty or Symbiont?  If the former, you're saying that the Counterparty dev group will be working (in part) on products orthogonal to Counterparty?  If the latter, is Symbiont currently working on any product that incorporates Counterparty?

When I wrote 'we', I meant 'Symbiont'; Symbiont is doing a lot with Counterparty.

We would love to know any more about that.  Anything at all.
sr. member
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Counterparty Chief Scientist and Co-Founder
The takeaway should be that Symbiont has a lot more resources than Counterparty has alone, so we'll be working on products that are orthogonal to Counterparty *as well*. (We'll also have more resources than ever dedicated to Counterparty itself.)

Are you speaking from the perspective of Counterparty or Symbiont?  If the former, you're saying that the Counterparty dev group will be working (in part) on products orthogonal to Counterparty?  If the latter, is Symbiont currently working on any product that incorporates Counterparty?

When I wrote 'we', I meant 'Symbiont'; Symbiont is doing a lot with Counterparty.
legendary
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Niche or not, there has to be someone willing to fill it.  That's why Symbiont was such an asset.
hero member
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there is a post by tim swanson on the difference between permissioned and distributed ledgers

http://www.ofnumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Permissioned-distributed-ledgers.pdf

maybe it adds some clarity.

there is a niche for both of them btw.
legendary
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The takeaway should be that Symbiont has a lot more resources than Counterparty has alone, so we'll be working on products that are orthogonal to Counterparty *as well*. (We'll also have more resources than ever dedicated to Counterparty itself.)

Are you speaking from the perspective of Counterparty or Symbiont?  If the former, you're saying that the Counterparty dev group will be working (in part) on products orthogonal to Counterparty?  If the latter, is Symbiont currently working on any product that incorporates Counterparty?
sr. member
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Counterparty Chief Scientist and Co-Founder
Hi all! For anyone who might be interested, we just published a new post on our blog explaining the relationship between Symbiont and Counterparty: http://counterparty.io/news/symbiont-and-counterparty/
Sounds to me not too different with the overstock situation. I feel this statement is trying to decouple counterparty and Symbiont.

yep. sounds to me they want to abandon it. it's a very polite way to say "we're done with counterparty and not interested in it anymore, we're making something cooler".

That's not what the post said at all. The technology that Symbiont has developed outside of Counterparty does not overlap or compete with Counterparty at all. They're different things for different uses, one being private network/private blockchain/permissioned access, and the other (Counterparty) being public blockchain, public ledger, open access.

It's kind of like a computer manufacturer who only made desktops now releasing their first laptop model. Sure, they're both computers, but they have different uses, and there are certain cases where one is clearly more appropriate than the other.

To reiterate, Counterparty is still being actively supported and developed (by symbiont staff members, nonetheless). You can see that just by looking at the github.

That's correct, except laptops vs. desktops isn't a great metaphor, because laptops *are* competing with desktops to some degree. A better comparison would be laptops and phones, where neither competes with the other at all.

The takeaway should be that Symbiont has a lot more resources than Counterparty has alone, so we'll be working on products that are orthogonal to Counterparty *as well*. (We'll also have more resources than ever dedicated to Counterparty itself.)
sr. member
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At least people were fooled long enough for the pumps. I should have seen this coming. So much for investing in XCP.
what is the object price?
legendary
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We had a precise business goal in mind when we started Symbiont ... which differs from Counterparty itself in a number of key ways

http://counterparty.io/news/symbiont-and-counterparty/
sr. member
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Counterparty Developer
Hi all! For anyone who might be interested, we just published a new post on our blog explaining the relationship between Symbiont and Counterparty: http://counterparty.io/news/symbiont-and-counterparty/
Sounds to me not too different with the overstock situation. I feel this statement is trying to decouple counterparty and Symbiont.

yep. sounds to me they want to abandon it. it's a very polite way to say "we're done with counterparty and not interested in it anymore, we're making something cooler".

That's not what the post said at all. The technology that Symbiont has developed outside of Counterparty does not overlap or compete with Counterparty at all. They're different things for different uses, one being private network/private blockchain/permissioned access, and the other (Counterparty) being public blockchain, public ledger, open access.

It's kind of like a computer manufacturer who only made desktops now releasing their first laptop model. Sure, they're both computers, but they have different uses, and there are certain cases where one is clearly more appropriate than the other.

To reiterate, Counterparty is still being actively supported and developed (by symbiont staff members, nonetheless). You can see that just by looking at the github.
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I have to agree. this is not encouraging.
legendary
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Hi all! For anyone who might be interested, we just published a new post on our blog explaining the relationship between Symbiont and Counterparty: http://counterparty.io/news/symbiont-and-counterparty/
Sounds to me not too different with the overstock situation. I feel this statement is trying to decouple counterparty and Symbiont.
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Counterparty General Manager
Hi all! For anyone who might be interested, we just published a new post on our blog explaining the relationship between Symbiont and Counterparty: http://counterparty.io/news/symbiont-and-counterparty/
hero member
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Counterpartying
can btc forking affect counterparty in any way?

No.

and on what chain will CP protocol will work if a big fork happens? on both? sorry I have very little clue how this works. thanks

Whatever fork has the most use on it, I would guess. Counterparty is portable in that it can be dropped on any chain.
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