We need some miners too though, not just MN holders.
The network hash used to be over 100GH/s and now it's just 25-35 GH/s , the diff is relatively low now!
Topic: [ANN]XDNA-Revolution in cryptocurrency|POS|Charity Support|NoICO| - page 110. (Read 90307 times)
August 24, 2018, 05:02:33 AM
August 23, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
I recently got my masternode up and running, and think it's about the best thing to do.....no babysitting or handholding required, just sit and watch the incoming xdna!
August 23, 2018, 04:27:09 AM
The tech behind the coin is quite innovative. The devs are working on a new platform with the coin serving as a payment system. The bear market is visible, however, keep an eye on this one!
August 23, 2018, 03:32:50 AM
and now XDNA is on WTM.. even more miners are moving away to other coins. TBH i'm as well mining ETH, which i'd rather not.
It's too difficult to find profitable coins to mine right now, if there is still one. For the past months, ETH is right there at the top of most BTC to gain in mining as compared to other coins. This market must improve soon or I'll be forced to shutdown my rigs.
most coins are mere break even at the moment, and especially those on WTM are not even worth looking at.
i'm looking at just mining minex (4cents profit per card per day) and putting it all into minexbank long term stake, in the hope that in a year time, prices of shitcoins will have rebound to decent levels.
not powering off, not selling rigs - since 2009.
I hope you're not mining with the same rigs since 2009!
why not?
CPU mining is quite good these days... most of my current profits are from CPU mining...
August 22, 2018, 07:17:53 AM
and now XDNA is on WTM.. even more miners are moving away to other coins. TBH i'm as well mining ETH, which i'd rather not.
It's too difficult to find profitable coins to mine right now, if there is still one. For the past months, ETH is right there at the top of most BTC to gain in mining as compared to other coins. This market must improve soon or I'll be forced to shutdown my rigs.
most coins are mere break even at the moment, and especially those on WTM are not even worth looking at.
i'm looking at just mining minex (4cents profit per card per day) and putting it all into minexbank long term stake, in the hope that in a year time, prices of shitcoins will have rebound to decent levels.
not powering off, not selling rigs - since 2009.
I hope you're not mining with the same rigs since 2009!
August 22, 2018, 07:11:57 AM
and now XDNA is on WTM.. even more miners are moving away to other coins. TBH i'm as well mining ETH, which i'd rather not.
It's too difficult to find profitable coins to mine right now, if there is still one. For the past months, ETH is right there at the top of most BTC to gain in mining as compared to other coins. This market must improve soon or I'll be forced to shutdown my rigs.
most coins are mere break even at the moment, and especially those on WTM are not even worth looking at.
i'm looking at just mining minex (4cents profit per card per day) and putting it all into minexbank long term stake, in the hope that in a year time, prices of shitcoins will have rebound to decent levels.
not powering off, not selling rigs - since 2009.
wow you are real miner
August 22, 2018, 06:37:40 AM
and now XDNA is on WTM.. even more miners are moving away to other coins. TBH i'm as well mining ETH, which i'd rather not.
It's too difficult to find profitable coins to mine right now, if there is still one. For the past months, ETH is right there at the top of most BTC to gain in mining as compared to other coins. This market must improve soon or I'll be forced to shutdown my rigs.
most coins are mere break even at the moment, and especially those on WTM are not even worth looking at.
i'm looking at just mining minex (4cents profit per card per day) and putting it all into minexbank long term stake, in the hope that in a year time, prices of shitcoins will have rebound to decent levels.
not powering off, not selling rigs - since 2009.
August 22, 2018, 06:29:19 AM
and now XDNA is on WTM.. even more miners are moving away to other coins. TBH i'm as well mining ETH, which i'd rather not.
It's too difficult to find profitable coins to mine right now, if there is still one. For the past months, ETH is right there at the top of most BTC to gain in mining as compared to other coins. This market must improve soon or I'll be forced to shutdown my rigs.
August 22, 2018, 04:55:51 AM
and now XDNA is on WTM.. even more miners are moving away to other coins. TBH i'm as well mining ETH, which i'd rather not.
August 22, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
And people haven't realised yet the potential of XDNA or the good cause of XDNA Foundation which is a philanthropic organization. Ofcourse we have yet to see how much of a help will the XDNA Foundation be to the world, but judging from my experience in the official Discord channel, the guys behind it seem very passionate and serious about it.
so what you are saying, that if I want to give away my money to charity, just mine XDNA?
i have found that mining XDNA is only just break even for my vs electricity costs due to the slice of block rewards which go to masternodes.. so yes, mining XDNA gives me no profit whatsoever - i am presuming that the portion of masternode rewards which is given away is being donated to the foundation by masternode owners? or do they not follow this 'give it all away' ethic?
to summarise, i'll feel better about myself by mining XDNA but make no profit for my mining expenses? right?
Not exactly what I meant, but if you feel generous then sure!
What I meant was that investors (not miners) prefer to speculate on projects that offer nothing than speculating on a project like XDNA which at least offers 2% of mined coins for a good cause.
If the value goes a little higher, then HEX will become very profitable to mine, but unlike other coins it won't become unprofitable the moment the hashrate increase by 3 times. That's because of the BitGun system.
The BitGun system is an interesting one, see why,
- If the value of the coin falls, then miners leave
- If miners leave, then the BitGun level falls
- If the BitGun level falls, the total inflation falls (less coins are produced, so less coins can be sold)
- If the inflation falls, the price will eventually rise or stabilize
- If the price rise, miners will start coming
- If miners start coming, the BitGun level will rise
- If the BitGun level rise, then the inflation will rise
- If the inflation rises, then the value will eventually fall or stabilize
This system might prevent us from reaching moon during the PoW phase (PoS phase is another story), but then again I'm a realistic person and I don't expect anything to reach the stars. Having a stable price which hopefully will rise little by little and steadily is more important for investors. The "moon" thing is for kids with zero financial knowledge.
TL;TD: BitGun might prevent extended periods of price rising, but it'll also prevent extended periods of price falling.
yes, but you miss the point... 30% of my electricity bill is going to masternode owners and stagnant price of the coin = mere break even for miners.
there is no real incentive to mine this, masternode rewards are too high.
Yes, which is why we need a little higher price which is not 100% in anyone's control unfortunately. I don't think that MNs are the problem though, if we had no MNs then there would be less ask for the coins and a lower price, therefore the mining wouldn't be that much more profitable.
And... I don't know why you're break-even, are you mining with AMD cards? The last time I checked the AMD miner wasn't optimized enough. Also if you're using just 1 or 2 cards on a PC, then most algos are break-even or close to break-even because of ultra-low prices and too many miners. That's a universal problem.
only just break even with 600 x 1060's @ 11p / kwH (UK)
August 22, 2018, 04:34:22 AM
And people haven't realised yet the potential of XDNA or the good cause of XDNA Foundation which is a philanthropic organization. Ofcourse we have yet to see how much of a help will the XDNA Foundation be to the world, but judging from my experience in the official Discord channel, the guys behind it seem very passionate and serious about it.
so what you are saying, that if I want to give away my money to charity, just mine XDNA?
i have found that mining XDNA is only just break even for my vs electricity costs due to the slice of block rewards which go to masternodes.. so yes, mining XDNA gives me no profit whatsoever - i am presuming that the portion of masternode rewards which is given away is being donated to the foundation by masternode owners? or do they not follow this 'give it all away' ethic?
to summarise, i'll feel better about myself by mining XDNA but make no profit for my mining expenses? right?
Not exactly what I meant, but if you feel generous then sure!
What I meant was that investors (not miners) prefer to speculate on projects that offer nothing than speculating on a project like XDNA which at least offers 2% of mined coins for a good cause.
If the value goes a little higher, then HEX will become very profitable to mine, but unlike other coins it won't become unprofitable the moment the hashrate increase by 3 times. That's because of the BitGun system.
The BitGun system is an interesting one, see why,
- If the value of the coin falls, then miners leave
- If miners leave, then the BitGun level falls
- If the BitGun level falls, the total inflation falls (less coins are produced, so less coins can be sold)
- If the inflation falls, the price will eventually rise or stabilize
- If the price rise, miners will start coming
- If miners start coming, the BitGun level will rise
- If the BitGun level rise, then the inflation will rise
- If the inflation rises, then the value will eventually fall or stabilize
This system might prevent us from reaching moon during the PoW phase (PoS phase is another story), but then again I'm a realistic person and I don't expect anything to reach the stars. Having a stable price which hopefully will rise little by little and steadily is more important for investors. The "moon" thing is for kids with zero financial knowledge.
TL;TD: BitGun might prevent extended periods of price rising, but it'll also prevent extended periods of price falling.
yes, but you miss the point... 30% of my electricity bill is going to masternode owners and stagnant price of the coin = mere break even for miners.
there is no real incentive to mine this, masternode rewards are too high.
Yes, which is why we need a little higher price which is not 100% in anyone's control unfortunately. I don't think that MNs are the problem though, if we had no MNs then there would be less ask for the coins and a lower price, therefore the mining wouldn't be that much more profitable.
And... I don't know why you're break-even, are you mining with AMD cards? The last time I checked the AMD miner wasn't optimized enough. Also if you're using just 1 or 2 cards on a PC, then most algos are break-even or close to break-even because of ultra-low prices and too many miners. That's a universal problem.
August 22, 2018, 04:18:27 AM
And people haven't realised yet the potential of XDNA or the good cause of XDNA Foundation which is a philanthropic organization. Ofcourse we have yet to see how much of a help will the XDNA Foundation be to the world, but judging from my experience in the official Discord channel, the guys behind it seem very passionate and serious about it.
so what you are saying, that if I want to give away my money to charity, just mine XDNA?
i have found that mining XDNA is only just break even for my vs electricity costs due to the slice of block rewards which go to masternodes.. so yes, mining XDNA gives me no profit whatsoever - i am presuming that the portion of masternode rewards which is given away is being donated to the foundation by masternode owners? or do they not follow this 'give it all away' ethic?
to summarise, i'll feel better about myself by mining XDNA but make no profit for my mining expenses? right?
Not exactly what I meant, but if you feel generous then sure!
What I meant was that investors (not miners) prefer to speculate on projects that offer nothing than speculating on a project like XDNA which at least offers 2% of mined coins for a good cause.
If the value goes a little higher, then HEX will become very profitable to mine, but unlike other coins it won't become unprofitable the moment the hashrate increase by 3 times because of the BitGun system.
The BitGun system is an interesting one, see why,
- If the value of the coin falls, then miners leave
- If miners leave, then the BitGun level falls
- If the BitGun level falls, the total inflation falls (less coins are produced, so less coins can be sold)
- If the inflation falls, the price will eventually rise or stabilize
- If the price rise, miners will start coming
- If miners start coming, the BitGun level will rise
- If the BitGun level rise, then the inflation will rise
- If the inflation rises, then the value will eventually fall or stabilize
This system might prevent us from reaching moon during the PoW phase (PoS phase is another story), but then again I'm a realistic person and I don't expect anything to reach the stars. Having a stable price which hopefully will rise little by little and steadily is more important for investors. The "moon" thing is for kids with zero financial knowledge.
TL;TD: BitGun might prevent extended periods of price rising, but it'll also prevent extended periods of price falling.
yes, but you miss the point... 30% of my electricity bill is going to masternode owners and stagnant price of the coin = mere break even for miners.
there is no real incentive to mine this, masternode rewards are too high.
August 22, 2018, 04:16:03 AM
And people haven't realised yet the potential of XDNA or the good cause of XDNA Foundation which is a philanthropic organization. Ofcourse we have yet to see how much of a help will the XDNA Foundation be to the world, but judging from my experience in the official Discord channel, the guys behind it seem very passionate and serious about it.
so what you are saying, that if I want to give away my money to charity, just mine XDNA?
i have found that mining XDNA is only just break even for my vs electricity costs due to the slice of block rewards which go to masternodes.. so yes, mining XDNA gives me no profit whatsoever - i am presuming that the portion of masternode rewards which is given away is being donated to the foundation by masternode owners? or do they not follow this 'give it all away' ethic?
to summarise, i'll feel better about myself by mining XDNA but make no profit for my mining expenses? right?
Not exactly what I meant, but if you feel generous then sure!
What I meant was that investors (not miners) prefer to speculate on projects that offer nothing than speculating on a project like XDNA which at least offers 2% of mined coins for a good cause.
If the value goes a little higher, then HEX will become very profitable to mine, but unlike other coins it won't become unprofitable the moment the hashrate increase by 3 times! That's because of the BitGun system.
The BitGun system is an interesting one, see why,
- If the value of the coin falls, then miners leave
- If miners leave, then the BitGun level falls
- If the BitGun level falls, the total inflation falls (less coins are produced, so less coins can be sold)
- If the inflation falls, the price will eventually rise or stabilize
- If the price rise, miners will start coming
- If miners start coming, the BitGun level will rise
- If the BitGun level rise, then the inflation will rise
- If the inflation rises, then the value will eventually fall or stabilize
This system might prevent us from reaching moon during the PoW phase (PoS phase is another story), but then again I'm a realistic person and I don't expect anything to reach the stars. Having a stable price which hopefully will rise little by little and steadily is more important for investors. The "moon" thing is for kids with zero financial knowledge.
TL;TD: BitGun might prevent extended periods of price rising, but it'll also prevent extended periods of price falling.
August 22, 2018, 03:08:01 AM
And people haven't realised yet the potential of XDNA or the good cause of XDNA Foundation which is a philanthropic organization. Ofcourse we have yet to see how much of a help will the XDNA Foundation be to the world, but judging from my experience in the official Discord channel, the guys behind it seem very passionate and serious about it.
so what you are saying, that if I want to give away my money to charity, just mine XDNA?
i have found that mining XDNA is only just break even for my vs electricity costs due to the slice of block rewards which go to masternodes.. so yes, mining XDNA gives me no profit whatsoever - i am presuming that the portion of masternode rewards which is given away is being donated to the foundation by masternode owners? or do they not follow this 'give it all away' ethic?
to summarise, i'll feel better about myself by mining XDNA but make no profit for my mining expenses? right?
August 22, 2018, 02:36:38 AM
And people haven't realised yet the potential of XDNA or the good cause of XDNA Foundation which is a philanthropic organization. Ofcourse we have yet to see how much of a help will the XDNA Foundation be to the world, but judging from my experience in the official Discord channel, the guys behind it seem very passionate and serious about it.
August 21, 2018, 09:19:56 PM
Hi all. I see a lot of new nodes, but the hash is still low and sometimes it gets lower than it was with fewer nodes. What's happening?
The Bitgun level depends on the hash that is mining it with their GPU. Masternodes do not mine. When you check whattomine, there are other coins more profitable to mine at the moment. I'm only mining it since I have a Masternode, and want to contribute my small amount of hash to help keep the Bitgun level up.
August 21, 2018, 09:01:29 PM
Hi all. I see a lot of new nodes, but the hash is still low and sometimes it gets lower than it was with fewer nodes. What's happening?
August 21, 2018, 06:31:26 PM
After rebuild index :
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: PaymentServer::LoadRootCAs : Loaded 45 root certificates
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: No such signal BlockExplorer::handleRestart(QStringList) in qt/walletview.cpp:136
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: (sender name: 'BlockExplorer')
2018-08-20 20:07:17 Misbehaving: 212.86.115.36:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:17 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=1
2018-08-20 20:07:18 Misbehaving: 104.238.186.38:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:18 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=2
2018-08-20 20:07:19 Misbehaving: 80.240.28.40:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:19 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=3
2018-08-20 20:07:20 Misbehaving: 185.174.172.129:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:20 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=4
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: PaymentServer::LoadRootCAs : Loaded 45 root certificates
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: No such signal BlockExplorer::handleRestart(QStringList) in qt/walletview.cpp:136
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: (sender name: 'BlockExplorer')
2018-08-20 20:07:17 Misbehaving: 212.86.115.36:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:17 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=1
2018-08-20 20:07:18 Misbehaving: 104.238.186.38:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:18 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=2
2018-08-20 20:07:19 Misbehaving: 80.240.28.40:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:19 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=3
2018-08-20 20:07:20 Misbehaving: 185.174.172.129:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:20 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=4
any help here?
Hi mate. I redirect your request to the development team and will reply to you asap.
August 21, 2018, 02:42:41 PM
After rebuild index :
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: PaymentServer::LoadRootCAs : Loaded 45 root certificates
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: No such signal BlockExplorer::handleRestart(QStringList) in qt/walletview.cpp:136
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: (sender name: 'BlockExplorer')
2018-08-20 20:07:17 Misbehaving: 212.86.115.36:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:17 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=1
2018-08-20 20:07:18 Misbehaving: 104.238.186.38:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:18 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=2
2018-08-20 20:07:19 Misbehaving: 80.240.28.40:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:19 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=3
2018-08-20 20:07:20 Misbehaving: 185.174.172.129:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:20 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=4
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: PaymentServer::LoadRootCAs : Loaded 45 root certificates
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: No such signal BlockExplorer::handleRestart(QStringList) in qt/walletview.cpp:136
2018-08-20 20:07:17 GUI: QObject::connect: (sender name: 'BlockExplorer')
2018-08-20 20:07:17 Misbehaving: 212.86.115.36:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:17 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=1
2018-08-20 20:07:18 Misbehaving: 104.238.186.38:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:18 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=2
2018-08-20 20:07:19 Misbehaving: 80.240.28.40:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:19 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=3
2018-08-20 20:07:20 Misbehaving: 185.174.172.129:1945 (0 -> 1)
2018-08-20 20:07:20 ProcessMessage(reject, 42 bytes) FAILED peer=4
any help here?
August 21, 2018, 08:21:27 AM
Hi friends!
XDNA is now listed on Bitgur price index - https://bitgur.com/coin/XDNA! You can add it to customizable watchlist and create advanced price alerts.
Coin Tracking
There is Coin Tracking Alert in Bitgur Alerts. Add it once and you will receive important information about XDNA. Price change, unusual volume, new listings, general news, and events.
We can send notifications by telegram, e-mail or browser push notification. You will find Coin Tracking alert in our alerting system.
URL: https://bitgur.com/alerts
Volume Profile and trends
We have a unique financial chart called Volume Profile. This tool is indispensable for determining resistance and support levels.
URL: https://bitgur.com/coin/XDNA/chart
Customizable watchlist
You can create your custom cryptocurrency watchlist using 35 financial indicators or charts and select their display order in the table.
URL: https://bitgur.com/watchlist
Modern-style website widget
You can add our awesome widget. URL: https://bitgur.com/widgets
XDNA is now listed on Bitgur price index - https://bitgur.com/coin/XDNA! You can add it to customizable watchlist and create advanced price alerts.
Coin Tracking
There is Coin Tracking Alert in Bitgur Alerts. Add it once and you will receive important information about XDNA. Price change, unusual volume, new listings, general news, and events.
We can send notifications by telegram, e-mail or browser push notification. You will find Coin Tracking alert in our alerting system.
URL: https://bitgur.com/alerts
Volume Profile and trends
We have a unique financial chart called Volume Profile. This tool is indispensable for determining resistance and support levels.
URL: https://bitgur.com/coin/XDNA/chart
Customizable watchlist
You can create your custom cryptocurrency watchlist using 35 financial indicators or charts and select their display order in the table.
URL: https://bitgur.com/watchlist
Modern-style website widget
You can add our awesome widget. URL: https://bitgur.com/widgets
Thanks, but I noticed a mistake in your platform. XDNA is a "Coin", not a "Token". You're also missing the tag "Mineable".
I don't know if it's possible to add crypto-bridge in your list of exchanges too, because XDNA is listed there too.
PS: I'm just a community member, not an official rep from the team.
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