Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 175. (Read 450523 times)

your are evil.   do you know that?

 

That's why I tried to call it "thing"  . To me it appears like sort of a working little protocol that allows you to send a blender file to some computation nodes and then you get back the result. This core functionality I could replicate in a 50 line bash script. Note that this bash script would rely on trust only and not be a cryptographically secure trustless eco-system. This is what I personally see right now, when checking the Golem code.

Again, my disclaimer: This opinion represents my current level of knowledge, which may be too low to understand the full complexity of Golem   So of course, I may be totally wrong!

EK, I'll take your work for it that golem has a working model, but I don't see it.  Here is what I see on the github...and the release is from July.

Warning
Golem Project is a work in progress. Current version is an alpha stage of Brass Golem and it's not fully secured. Check this list of issues for more details. Please be sure that you understand the risk before installing the software.

What I try to say is: Elastic is aiming towards a decentralized trustless system, one that guarantees that your task is carried out correctly without the necessity for any kind of trust system whatsoever. This is the novelty here! I am yet to see any working system of this kind!

Well Golem does have a working thing that you can actually use to render some blender scene.

However, and I want to be careful about what I say, so I claim that I think I might be able to :
- Crash the entire network within about 5 minutes (blockchain freeze)
- Leak sensitive information (such as internet provider, routes, machine type, IP address, ...) from any of the users' machines who contribute their computational power
- Let others do work for me without ever paying them
- Make others pay me for allegedly doing some work that I don't do at all
- Cripple the network so other subsequent jobs (after mine was executed) will not be carried out correctly

I am not a bad person, so I invested my precious time and collected all possible bugs that I found (and that I think they are bugs) and gave it to them ... for free. I was called a troll and people told me that they are "not sure if they want to talk listen to someone like me", though! lol!



I just felt, we boys got to stick together, huh?

Disclaimer: I am not saying that Golem does not work here, I am just saying that my opinion (as in freedom of speech) is that it doesn't. I very well might be totally wrong!

For example, as suggested a few weeks back, I created a couple of real-world examples to test out the Elastic code.  Here are a couple examples of the Travelling Salesman Problem, one using brute force, the other using simulated annealing.  

   https://github.com/sprocket-fpga/xel_miner/tree/master/examples

These are just small examples, but similar logic is used to solve real world problems.

If you think these other projects are actually delivering something, then I'd be happy to stop.  I am just doing this as a fun challenge, because I have yet to see anyone do it.  Once you prove to me it's been done, then I'll stop.

Um...so how do you run that do anything meaningful with it.  Didn't realize people here were so literal....

I can post lots of stuff to github as well.  If it doesn't do what is promised, then what's the point.

This is not true, have a look at https://github.com/golemfactory/golem

Why tomorrow? Just wait a little until we have a set date that main-net will come alive. Then we decide which way to go and what funds to allocate.

Apart from that http://www.wachsmanpr.com seem OK, they are specialized on crypto-marketing which is not a bad thing. It will bring us attention in the cryptofield, later on we need more attention outside the cryptoscene, especially those that are potential users.

Why even mention the others.  It can be simply stated that Elastic is the first developed and functioning system of this kind.

Personally I'm not sure how to proceed with marketing.  You've quoted two projects (golem and iex.ex) that offer lots of promises but don't have a single line of code.  It's easy to market when you only talk about theory.  Whatever I deliver (and I assume EK as well) will be functional code...everything we do is in github...anyone (including those other teams) can view what we've done.  We are facing some challenges making XEL an incredibly flexible system that provides value to those needing computational power, while keeping with the core design to provide a decentralized network to support this system...but I'm sure we'll have something shortly.

The problem with marketing is that our system will be reality...while the others talk about their dreams.  It's hard to compete with dreams...

Just wrote an email to be sent at http://www.wachsmanpr.com   , if you guys aggree with the content i will send it tomorrow . Any annotation is welcome  regarding to structure and content of the email .

Dear Sirs ,

i "represent" the community of a crypto project named Elastic ( XEL ) to inquire some information about your services .
Elastic project is gonna be the first decentralised super-computer ( GOLEM and IEX.EC  need several months to be delivered ) .
Elastic Project is close to deliver by the lead dev EK (Evil-Knievel ) and a team of community members . They are currently working on  the last details of the programming language . This has become a community driven project while in the beggining it was an ICO project .
The potential of this project is huge . GOLEM marketcap is currently at  $15 million (3x the ICO price ) and it's still in infantile stage comparing to Elastic .
Our weak spot is our PR . None in our community is experienced in this section , so we would like to know if you and we can work something out .
I have to make clear that there are no ICO funds that we can pay you , but i think we could share a portion of our coins for a good PR campaign that could give Elastic Project it's real value .
We will probably have a mainnet launch in the beggining of February .
Please visit our thread at bitcointalk https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxel-elastic-project-the-decentralized-supercomputer-1396233  and kindly consider giving Elastic the chance to be the No 1 crypto project of 2017 .

Thank you in advance
GG

the list of their clients is very impressive. Great idea !

Dont pretend to know more than most of us. I dont know if u sucked these facts outta ur thumb or had a motive underlying ur plans to hype it up, but u failed.

I personally don't see a problem!
In fact, I think it's a great idea and would encourage you to make that move. The Elastic project has tremendous potential but we can't rely on EK doing both coding and PR!
He is already occupied full time with the development of the platform and should stay focused 100% on it!

Is there a problem if i ( or anyone else ) try to contact these guys and learn if they can carry the PR part and what is their pricing ?

shouldnt we do like all others great projects do, let PROs http://www.wachsmanpr.com/clients/ do PR for us? i wonder what the pricing is.. maybe in form of XEL

I'd like to echo this sentiment. I bought in to XEL very early on (before the disclaimer that "THIS IS A DONATION" was made) and it's astonishing my deposit isn't worthless right about now. This is a very ambitious project, and the head honcho took the money and ran. I would not have guessed that, given the early history, my deposit would have maintained its primary value, let alone appreciate many times fold (based on current speculative XEL prices). Thank you EK for all that you do my man!

I agree PR is very important - without it anything could just end up a cool technology that is run by 12 hardcore fans...

PR is also important,otherwise it's a pity.
so many great technology been ignored by history..