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Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 178. (Read 450523 times)

legendary
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OP is from March I believe.
hero member
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stop spamming happy birthday crap and start making website ready Wink
I also think this project is less than 1 year old
hero member
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hero member
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Happy Birthday XEL! I've been with ya ever since the initial crowd funding and happy to be involved with this project.

As we start a new calendar year and have huge hopes and aspirations for the successful release of a mainnet, I did want to drop a personal note to the group:

Release the product when you are happy with a solid starting point. Avoid scope creep. Bells and whistles dont make the project a success at the start, the community will have to help here. The most important thing to remember for crypto-projects is that these projects become evolving systems and will continually require development and upkeep. More devs will help assist and share some of the heavy lifting once the project gets publicity and hits some exchanges.

To the devs specifically: You have been helpful, transparent, intelligent, and entertaining this past year - I am happy to have backed a project you work on. Keep it up!

Great minds in this thread. Always love coming back and catching up.
sr. member
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Ben2016
happy birthday!

and great future for XEL
Could you find out the application process to be listed on Yunbi ? https://yunbi.com

Thank you !
legendary
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happy birthday to xel!!! Smiley Smiley Smiley
sr. member
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Happy new year. I hope the project will continue.
hero member
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For what kind of scientific computation can it be used at the beginning?

I´m not a coder at all, so I don´t really unterstand all the background but since I´m working in the research sector this is really interesting for me.
Would it be possible to write a program which is working like the one from folding@home ?
So to test specific combinations of protein conformations?

Actually a working F@H client would be a good marketing idea if it is possible to implement. Unlike block hashes in crypto, folding jobs have quite long deadline times. So if such a thing would be available at launch or somewhere on the roadmap, it could attract some attention from F@H users and the scientific community. Not just the crypto investors echo chamber.

I totally agree. there is also rosetta@home with an different idea of solving the problem. It´s not just the folding which is important. It´s also important to calculate and in this way create different structures for some kind of antiviral treatment oder vaccines.
If we could enable something like this. I think this would be a very goof start to demonstrate the power of the statement
legendary
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happy birthday!

and great future for XEL
legendary
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  congratulations 1 birthday. project deserves much attention. the project has fans from Russia. I congratulate the whole team and the whole community and wish you great success. ( Sorry for my english )   Smiley
hero member
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I think that we should enable the greatest usability and flexibility to the Elastic system. It is true that some functions could be exploited to certain negative operations, but it can also be used for good purposes I am sure.
In any case, the most important is to enable the system to be used by as widest audience as possible. Wide scientific usage will be great, but also having the system accessible enough for the average user so it can be used by them as well for whatever uses they may need.

On a different note, Happy birthday Elastic!! Cheesy
This project is surely one of the most interesting and promising projects in recent years. Let us make it as big as it can be so everyone everywhere will know about it and use it!
A huge thanks for everyone who made this project progress and come so far!!
hero member
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anyway, now we must focus elastic pro's birthday.. Every community member is looking this thread about a year.

1 YEAR

Special thanks to EK, Dazza, coralreefer, HunterMinerCrafter, unvoid and others...



(who wantto build website, i wont do that now.. or is there any designer who working on it, mr.coinzy?)
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legendary
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I have no issue with tossing it, especially as its no eternal decision and like EK said future developers could add it if there is some really urgent need to have it.

What i really like would be folding@home as it has a really nice background and is well known in science.
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Ben2016
So, with all the due respect, coralreefer, your concerns above cannot be serious.

I just haven't been able to come up with any other reason why ElasticPL needs built in crypto functions...what other use would they serve?  I would prefer if they weren't there at all.

We can throw them out if you like (or if you think that it might help to get rid of a possible negative image) Wink I just thought it might be a nice thing to have without any specific use case in mind.

EDIT: Let's just throw them away!
EK, Coralreef, you folks are men of integrity and I truly respect your views. But, discovering an unknown to this date function is an amazing discovery. Despite the fact that it could be abused, it is no different than discovering Atom and its potential to make an atomic bomb or million other medical and scientific uses. I'm really no body here, but my voice " please don't throw away any of your precious discoveries"
legendary
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I also actually think coralreefer is more important to this project, than crypto functions Smiley
So if we have to choose - I vote for throwing out crypto functions, and keeping coralreefer instead Tongue
legendary
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So, with all the due respect, coralreefer, your concerns above cannot be serious.

I just haven't been able to come up with any other reason why ElasticPL needs built in crypto functions...what other use would they serve?  I would prefer if they weren't there at all.

We can throw them out if you like (or if you thing that it might help to get rid of a negative image) Wink I just thought it might be a nice thing to have without any specific use case in mind.

EDIT: Let's just throw them away!

Hi EK, I honestly wasn't trying to force my view on the project...I think the larger group should decide if those functions are needed.  I personally would not feel right if my miner was used to crack something as well as I think it would tarnish the image of Elastic if that is how the system gets used.

I have never thought that far, but I totally agree with your point of view. I also do not want to be part of anything that is related to cracking anything. I really appreciate your honesty, your work and of course your opinion as well. To me, you are an integral asset for Elastic so I honestly believe that your opinion is not less important than mine! It's unbelievable how much you have done for the project so far, so you have every right to participate in all design decisions.

I would say, let's just drop the crypto stuff, and leave the implementation to possible future developers if time shows that these functions are really needed for what reason ever.  Wink
sr. member
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So, with all the due respect, coralreefer, your concerns above cannot be serious.

I just haven't been able to come up with any other reason why ElasticPL needs built in crypto functions...what other use would they serve?  I would prefer if they weren't there at all.

We can throw them out if you like (or if you thing that it might help to get rid of a negative image) Wink I just thought it might be a nice thing to have without any specific use case in mind.

EDIT: Let's just throw them away!

Hi EK, I honestly wasn't trying to force my view on the project...I think the larger group should decide if those functions are needed.  I personally would not feel right if my miner was used to crack something as well as I think it would tarnish the image of Elastic if that is how the system gets used.
legendary
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So, with all the due respect, coralreefer, your concerns above cannot be serious.

I just haven't been able to come up with any other reason why ElasticPL needs built in crypto functions...what other use would they serve?  I would prefer if they weren't there at all.

We can throw them out if you like (or if you think that it might help to get rid of a possible negative image) Wink I just thought it might be a nice thing to have without any specific use case in mind.

EDIT: Let's just throw them away!
sr. member
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So, with all the due respect, coralreefer, your concerns above cannot be serious.

I just haven't been able to come up with any other reason why ElasticPL needs built in crypto functions...what other use would they serve?  I would prefer if they weren't there at all.
legendary
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so what is the real world usage for EK at the very beginning?

Mining bitcoin and altcoin? scientific computation?

I'm sure EK has his vision for Elastic, but I don't personally feel Elastic will work for mining any other coins.  Although it's more than capable of mining a block, each time the coins network updates it's block info, a new job would have to be submitted to Elastic....which would cause us to lag that blockchain considerably.

I would think the primary usage would be around scientific computation...solving complex problems that can be modeled in code.

Unlike EK, I'm still not convinced Elastic can't be used for rendering...I think we could come up with a model to support it, but that's not my call.

Recently, I saw a post about cracking passwords.  I truly hope that Elastic won't be use for such purposes although it's more than capable of that.  It's probably the main reason I'm leaving.  I feel we've created a powerful system, but I really don't want to be part of something used for such negative purposes.  When I started working on this, I saw the potential to help the scientific community.

I'm sure you have your reasons but Elastic is not something special in this regard. Almost every single modern tech can be used to help bad guys achieve their goals. What really matters is how much good this particular tech can do in comparison. Bitcoin itself is a good example of such controversy.

Sure. But why only "modern tech"? Smiley

Going by the citation from beyinsi's post and continuing it: Bad guys use cars, bad guys use hammers, bad guys use pens, bad guys use books, they use pretty much everything good people use! Smiley They use wheel after all, so what? Should the one who invented the wheel, go and shoot himself (well, I should have told - "beat himself with stones", given the state of technology at that time Smiley?

BTW, the scientific community you tell about - they also work on some tech, which could be used with bad intentions too. If we take such concerns seriously, we should stop any kind of scientific research, and either shoot all scientists or send them to far countryside to grow potatoes and other vegetables.

So, with all the due respect, coralreefer, your concerns above cannot be serious. I had similar concerns when I started in university, but then I realized its not the tech, its the people who use it. There could be some exceptions (like making weapons of mass destruction is probably immoral by any criteria), but Elastic is not like that.
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