Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 317. (Read 450524 times)

I think nobody here wants any marketing or PR.
This is what I sharply criticize with all these other successful (at least on the surface) coins that are being built at the moment.
Most of them have a wonderful PR, they use dozens of buzz words (internet of things, DAPPs, blah, ...) and they attract many people who are entirely blended. They do everything to lure the last penny out of their users' pockets. Signature campaigns, twitter broadcasts, glossy articles with even glossier faces of the (of course) non-anonymous dev team creating the illusion of "security" ... all this has precedence over the technology itself. No wonder, mostly the tech is just a reinvented wheel (for the 4th or 5th time) ... but the loyal user will ignore that and (thanks to the, I have to admit, very good PR campaigns) jump on the hype train.



I am so happy, that Elastic Project is not this kind of "project".
Here, nobody tries to forcibly convince anyone that this project is the best out there, nobody is wasting time on signature campaigns, nobody needs facebook sockpuppets or any other kind of PR ... I think that anyone who is involved here understands the algorithmic difficulties that this coin is trying to solve and is happy to work on an interesting and challenging piece of open source software.

Unfortunately, in the over-hyped crypto land as we experience it today, not many people are expected to donate towards Elastic Project but if the price otherwise would be to send the science to the background in favor of boring marketing and hype (like in, spending 90% time on the marketing and 10% on the development) then it's just the way it is.

By the way: I have worked for many large projects already. Those who required a project proposal full of buzz words (and no technical profoundness at all) to convince people with little to no knowledge to financially back the project were those with the least charme.

Have you seen the main site already?
http://elastic-project.org/

I must admit, I have even knocked off the logo from twitter. But I already wrote that I hope someone else comes up with something nicer than that.
Regarding the color theme, I am open for any suggestions.

Jonas

Great, I'd just change the color scheme, there are 16777216 possible colors in RGB and everyone is using twitter blue.

Hello World!

I have continued working on the new website. Last night I have modified the forum theme to match the main theme.
If you want you can check it out here: http://forum.elastic-project.org/

The CSS is not 100% perfect, if anyone has time to patch it, feel free. I need a break.

Jonas

Do not concern yourself about my close circle I assure you that it is more than fine...My tip for you is learn how to handle criticism and consider your way of marketing and PR

Wow that looks great already, great job!

Hello World!

I have continued working on the new website at http://elastic-project.org/. I have added a short explanation of the general idea of the Elastic Project. Could you please check if I have explained everything correctly? Any changes are welcome.

Jonas

hi EK, Lannister, I have a PhD in pharmacy and minor in Psychology. Please let me know if I could be of any assistance ( of course as a Volunteer).

I could not donate using my counterparty wallet also and I was getting the same error as you.

I had to use my bitcoin-qt wallet (which I can access the private keys from).

Following, sounds like a good project.

I have added a logo to http://elastic-project.org, but I am not very happy with it. It's basically a twitter knockoff. Maybe some has the time to do something better, maybe something entirely in white so we keep the design flat.

Cool! And how can I or anyone else who is interested in writing get "access" to this editor?

Afaik it's not possible to use WML, but there is a nice editor which allows you to easily write and edit your articles. HTML is also fine if you need something beyond the basic features.

Good work, this looks amazing! I can write about some technical details (mini-blockchains, pos, some attacks).
I would do it on a low-priority level though as I am working heavily on the client at the moment.

I have not yet taken a deeper look into it, but is it possible to use the wiki markup language for the articles?

I think that we need a website that goes beyond what we have now. So I have created a Wordpress based website on http://elastic-project.org/. It's not completely finished so see it as a beta version. It contains a knowledge base which I planned to contain all knowledge that has been collected so far. That includes technical details, background infos, guides how to recover private keys from different online wallets, later also tutorials how to install or compile the client for differnt platforms, and many more. The lack of information is what I criticize most on the current website.

So my question now is: Who would volunteer or at least help me writing these articles?

Jonas

PS: I left out the logo on purpose because I have read about a possible logo contest. Will it take place?

When going to http://elastic.pro/donations the donation address is smugged out with a red tag and message.Based on my ip address i dont agree to the terms?  Am i doing something wrong.. The donation address wont show on the screen.

If i use a proxy i can see the address and tried that but get a error from my counterparty wallet:

Sorry, we got an error when trying to do the requested action: 'JSON-RPC Error:
Type: Server error

Code: -32000

Message: Non-hexadecimal digit found

' (API method: create_send).

I don't think thats the way to go, adding 20% to the costs for computation is huge in itself, let alone in the context where non-profit alogs would be competing with crypto mining. I don't know whether the miners will be able to choose the packets they work on or their reward will be generalized, but in any case I think it would be better to have inflation to make people stake more, or some kind of masternode system where you reward people for staking with something other than elastic (perhaps they get a little free computation on their project or something). I don't really know how the whole economic part of the elastic is planned out, so perhaps that should be made celar before we brainstorm on its specific aspects. Will the miners be able to pick projects to mine on, will the rewards be separate or not? If they are separate, miners will go for more profitable ones, if not the price of computation will be higher.

This is a very interesting point. I will have to get a cup of tea and think an hour or two about this.
I hope we can get Dazza to brainstorm with us on this one, because he originally proposed to keep the POS rewards as minimal as possible when we were discussing this question back then.

For some reason my original post was removed, so I try it once again:

Hi everybody,

my Name is Jonas, I'm from Munich (at the Isar River, that's where my nick comes from) and I'm 34 years old.
I've been using both Java and NodeJS for a few years now, both in my 9 to 5 job and for my own projects.
I'm impressed by the general idea of the project as well as by what you have done so far, so I decided that I want to become part of it. As I have read that Elastic is a "loose formation of developers" I'll just skip the application process, so: here I am.

The most important thing that is missing, is a clear structured todo list.
I think we should focus on that, first. Otherwise we will quickly find ourselves trying to do all things at the same time, multiple times. We could use github for that or we setup some work organization tool ourselves. Also, I would strongly suggest setting up a Slack as not everything needs to be discussed in public, not because it's secret but because it's simply boring for the rest.

Since I posted this message two days ago, I have registered the domain http://elastic-project.org and purchased a server so we can host all necessary tools at one central point. I have asked Lannister in a private message if he would pay for domain and server, and he did without hesitation so thank you very much for that. On this server I have already installed a forum software with two predefined boards and the rest will follow soon. The forum can be found here:

http://forum.elastic-project.org.

I would suggest that, for now, we move all technical talk to the "Development Board" over there. This gives us at least some structure. I am by the way open for any suggestions about what other tools and software we might need.

Jonas