Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 59. (Read 450520 times)

Voting when made, should include not only the option for a lite client that only has transfer capabilities, but also other options such as an mvp - a product that has some of the capabilities we want in the system but not fully featured.
This issue was not discussed with EK and should be talked about here and receive some agreement before any voting is made.
When you talk about having a democratic vote it is not enough to have the option to vote, it is also important to supply enough voting options that give everyone their option to voice their opinion.

The way I see it we do not need to go only black or white (black being a launch with a lite client that can only transfer coins, and white being a launch with a fully working all feature included system - hence my suggestion for gray - MVP - let us agree what it should include and what should be offered later after release).

If you can define what a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) is and how long it will take to reach it.......

As I stated earlier, I would really like to hear EK's take on this matter. I think that as a trusted person, who knows this system the most intimately and being the main core dev, he can help us understand where we stand, what we could expect and possible time frames we could be talking about to reach such state.

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Voting when made, should include not only the option for a lite client that only has transfer capabilities, but also other options such as an mvp - a product that has some of the capabilities we want in the system but not fully featured.
This issue was not discussed with EK and should be talked about here and receive some agreement before any voting is made.
When you talk about having a democratic vote it is not enough to have the option to vote, it is also important to supply enough voting options that give everyone their option to voice their opinion.

The way I see it we do not need to go only black or white (black being a launch with a lite client that can only transfer coins, and white being a launch with a fully working all feature included system - hence my suggestion for gray - MVP - let us agree what it should include and what should be offered later after release).

Yep, let's wait for EK then

I think 3 options would be enough:
(1) Basic wallet with transfer feature
(2) Minimum-featured stable wallet - to be defined
(3) Maximum-featured stable wallet - to be defined

For options (2) and (3) we would need to know possible ETAs

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Voting when made, should include not only the option for a lite client that only has transfer capabilities, but also other options such as an mvp - a product that has some of the capabilities we want in the system but not fully featured.
This issue was not discussed with EK and should be talked about here and receive some agreement before any voting is made.
When you talk about having a democratic vote it is not enough to have the option to vote, it is also important to supply enough voting options that give everyone their option to voice their opinion.

The way I see it we do not need to go only black or white (black being a launch with a lite client that can only transfer coins, and white being a launch with a fully working all feature included system - hence my suggestion for gray - MVP - let us agree what it should include and what should be offered later after release).

If you can define what a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) is and how long it will take to reach it.......

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Ben2016

Quote from: mr.coinzy on May 08, 2017, 06:59:18 AM

Voting when made, should include not only the option for a lite client that only has transfer capabilities, but also other options such as an mvp - a product that has some of the capabilities we want in the system but not fully featured.
This issue was not discussed with EK and should be talked about here and receive some agreement before any voting is made.
When you talk about having a democratic vote it is not enough to have the option to vote, it is also important to supply enough voting options that give everyone their option to voice their opinion.

The way I see it we do not need to go only black or white (black being a launch with a lite client that can only transfer coins, and white being a launch with a fully working all feature included system - hence my suggestion for gray - MVP - let us agree what it should include and what should be offered later after release).

This sounds like a better plan .

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Voting when made, should include not only the option for a lite client that only has transfer capabilities, but also other options such as an mvp - a product that has some of the capabilities we want in the system but not fully featured.
This issue was not discussed with EK and should be talked about here and receive some agreement before any voting is made.
When you talk about having a democratic vote it is not enough to have the option to vote, it is also important to supply enough voting options that give everyone their option to voice their opinion.

The way I see it we do not need to go only black or white (black being a launch with a lite client that can only transfer coins, and white being a launch with a fully working all feature included system - hence my suggestion for gray - MVP - let us agree what it should include and what should be offered later after release).

Bgjjj2016

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Ben2016

Unvoid, could you please set up the voting for the Lite wallet ?

Hold on - not that easy.

Let's wait for EK's opinion on this

Quote from: mr.coinzy on May 08, 2017, 06:59:18 AM

I definitely do think that we do need to reach an agreement on what is required for stable base version and what we should strive to supply in the future as a fully viable system, and I think that the most eligible person to give insights to this matter is EK.

EK can you please give us your opinion on these important issues?

then we can define poll options

Exactly!
We should first deliberate and discuss what are our options and how they are outlined, and then, and only then, cast our votes on the option we wish to choose.
(Seems some people here sat on some extra spicy chilly... hold your horses and let us do this the smart way for the common benefit of everyone involved)

your extra spicy chilly comment is very humorous. We should have a " Humor " section on the XEL website Grin

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Unvoid, could you please set up the voting for the Lite wallet ?

Hold on - not that easy.

Let's wait for EK's opinion on this

I definitely do think that we do need to reach an agreement on what is required for stable base version and what we should strive to supply in the future as a fully viable system, and I think that the most eligible person to give insights to this matter is EK.

EK can you please give us your opinion on these important issues?

then we can define poll options

Exactly!
We should first deliberate and discuss what are our options and how they are outlined, and then, and only then, cast our votes on the option we wish to choose.
(Seems some people here sat on some extra spicy chilly... hold your horses and let us do this the smart way for the common benefit of everyone involved)

Yup, had some chilli pesto pasta last night Wink

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on May 07, 2017, 02:47:36 PM

Unvoid, could you please set up the voting for the Lite wallet ?

Hold on - not that easy.

Let's wait for EK's opinion on this

Voting was EKs proposal.

Well, I am not launching (and will never be launching) anything but if the majority wants a light client launched with just the basic coin transfer functions armed, I would offer my assistance in implementing such functionality for whoever feels empowered to get the ball rolling. Maybe a democratic vote would be the right thing here?

And said he would vote "no" Wink

Quote from: Evil-Knievel on May 07, 2017, 03:41:12 PM

So if someone starts a vote, I will vote for no. But if yes wins, I can assist with coding (not launching).

mr.coinzy

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Unvoid, could you please set up the voting for the Lite wallet ?

Hold on - not that easy.

Let's wait for EK's opinion on this

I definitely do think that we do need to reach an agreement on what is required for stable base version and what we should strive to supply in the future as a fully viable system, and I think that the most eligible person to give insights to this matter is EK.

EK can you please give us your opinion on these important issues?

then we can define poll options

Exactly!
We should first deliberate and discuss what are our options and how they are outlined, and then, and only then, cast our votes on the option we wish to choose.
(Seems some people here sat on some extra spicy chilly... hold your horses and let us do this the smart way for the common benefit of everyone involved)

Bgjjj2016

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Ben2016

Unvoid, could you please set up the voting for the Lite wallet ?

Hold on - not that easy.

Let's wait for EK's opinion on this

I definitely do think that we do need to reach an agreement on what is required for stable base version and what we should strive to supply in the future as a fully viable system, and I think that the most eligible person to give insights to this matter is EK.

EK can you please give us your opinion on these important issues?

then we can define poll options

EK's message on page 286
" Well, I am not launching (and will never be launching) anything but if the majority wants a light client launched with just the basic coin transfer functions armed, I would offer my assistance in implementing such functionality for whoever feels empowered to get the ball rolling. Maybe a democratic vote would be the right thing here? "

tomkat

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Unvoid, could you please set up the voting for the Lite wallet ?

Hold on - not that easy.

Let's wait for EK's opinion on this